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01-27-2013 , 06:54 PM
Nothing like a morning of running 4figs under EV ending with an ass raping in TCOOP main.

Very good joke steve and prob even better observation. Bottles will be being hit. Prob shouldlnt have kept this bottle of Ketel around.





    Poker Stars, $665 Buy-in (2,500/5,000 blinds, 625 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15822771

    Villager89 (BB): 122,803 (24.6 bb)
    kayrats (UTG+1): 26,310 (5.3 bb)
    rubakha-r (UTG+2): 14,928 (3 bb)
    Hero (MP1): 26,188 (5.2 bb)
    bollemus (MP2): 94,674 (18.9 bb)
    rakeinfools (MP3): 64,721 (12.9 bb)
    DNA2RNA (CO): 61,075 (12.2 bb)
    perchaf (BTN): 121,300 (24.3 bb)
    JOKERATOR (SB): 79,859 (16 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K K
    kayrats folds, rubakha-r calls 5,000, Hero raises to 25,563 and is all-in, 5 folds, Villager89 raises to 122,178 and is all-in, rubakha-r folds

    Flop: (64,251) T 5 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    Turn: (64,251) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (64,251) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: 64,251 pot
    Final Board: T 5 4 6 3
    Villager89 showed A 2 and won 64,251 (38,063 net)
    Hero showed K K and lost (-26,188 net)



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    01-27-2013 , 07:57 PM
    nice to see you back on 2p2 ruse

    glgl rest of day rallying
    01-27-2013 , 10:26 PM
    jdawg, nice job on the prop and getting mtt $dollers. Not sure what the success rate is on volume prop bets for online grinders but if I had to guess I'd say it's not higher than 30%.

    Nice to see you back Ruse. Biggest downer is obviously bound to happen as you've increased your abi massively but when you have a good brain inside your head like you do it's going to mean biggest upper too, especially when it's combined with some nice rakeback.

    Re: alcohol I'd suggest putting on a solid effort at finding something to use as a distraction/hobby/physical activity. I know I'm way less likely to have a random night of drinking if I'm being good with grinding a lot, eating healthy, being active, etc. It looks like you have your set drunken nights mapped out too, so you should make yourself really earn those days. You shouldn't feel a bunch of guilt for having some fun and taking a little time off, but it can be harder to enjoy if you feel you did **** all leading up to it.
    01-27-2013 , 11:39 PM
    so how much is it worth if you break even in these but achieve sne?

    Last edited by darthwager; 01-27-2013 at 11:39 PM. Reason: sorry for the newb question itt.
    01-27-2013 , 11:47 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by darthwager
    so how much is it worth if you break even in these but achieve sne?
    over 100k
    01-28-2013 , 12:14 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The Lipo Fund
    nice to see you back on 2p2 ruse

    glgl rest of day rallying
    thx buddy. Made a decent check back in a 9m sess after i cooled off.

    You going for sne this year? Youve played a ****ton of 6m hypers so far. Im def jelly of your work ethic.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sippin_criss
    Nice to see you back Ruse. Biggest downer is obviously bound to happen as you've increased your abi massively but when you have a good brain inside your head like you do it's going to mean biggest upper too, especially when it's combined with some nice rakeback.

    Re: alcohol I'd suggest putting on a solid effort at finding something to use as a distraction/hobby/physical activity. I know I'm way less likely to have a random night of drinking if I'm being good with grinding a lot, eating healthy, being active, etc. It looks like you have your set drunken nights mapped out too, so you should make yourself really earn those days. You shouldn't feel a bunch of guilt for having some fun and taking a little time off, but it can be harder to enjoy if you feel you did **** all leading up to it.
    Thx for advice. I knew coming into it that swings were gonna be insane and im still just looking at prerb downswings instead of postrb which is pretty dumb. Gotta say i really admire how you handled moving up you abi so much, getting completely shat on and (at least seemingly) keeping your cool throughout it.

    Im kinda hoping the half marathon im training for will be that activity that distracts me and keeps me focused. I think finding someone down here to regularly play tennis with would help out a lot too. I played sports from age 5 to 18 so i def miss having that competitive activity to train for. Though poker has compensated for it a bit.
    01-28-2013 , 12:49 AM
    Lipo has always been one of the sickest grinders I've known (who is also good at poker). He's a huuuuge fish at pool. Good taste in sushi, tho.
    01-28-2013 , 05:56 AM
    @ Ruse:

    Im also training for Half Marathon! When is urs? What training schedule/Program are u doing? (As in how many times a week u running and for how long etc)
    01-28-2013 , 03:05 PM
    gl both guyz
    01-28-2013 , 03:46 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by OMGsuperstaR
    holy ****... its 8am here now and im not even thinking about playing poker

    true sicko and i hope this grind will turn out positive for u

    glgl josh <3
    You're so good at threadsavers, should give me some tips .


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bmess0
    Gratz Jdawg. Wish you woulda shipped, I would have love to have heard an interview with you on the 2p2 pokercast (I should say I enjoyed it on snggrinders too).
    Haha yea woulda been legit and yea the snggrinders podcast came out really well I think and I loved doing it, I'm someone who loves to talk though and could keep going all day .

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by debacle
    What is a decent $7-$15 reg's ROI?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mecastyles
    5
    I agree with quadz, 5% probably at the $15s and maybe 7% at the $7s for a really good reg who table selects slightly and doesnt just robot mass table.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sippin_criss
    jdawg, nice job on the prop and getting mtt $dollers. Not sure what the success rate is on volume prop bets for online grinders but if I had to guess I'd say it's not higher than 30%.
    Ty sir, honestly surprised myself after how much of a slow start I got on the week.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by darthwager
    so how much is it worth if you break even in these but achieve sne?
    For me, because I started the year as a SNE:

    FPPs: $79,999.55 (4999972 FPPs @ $.016 per FPP)
    VIP Stellar Rewards: $1200
    Milestone Cash Credits: $43200
    WCOOP Main Event: $5200

    Total: $129,599.55
    $/VPP: $0.129599552
    Rakeback: 71.3% (Tournaments/SH Cash) or 77.8% (FR Cash)





    For Ruse, because he started the year as a Supernova:
    FPPs: $55,999.55 (3499972 FPPs @ $.016 per FPP)
    VIP Stellar Rewards: $1200
    Milestone Cash Credits: $43200
    WCOOP Main Event: $5200

    Total: $105,599.55
    $/VPP: $0.105599552
    Rakeback: 58.1% (Tournaments/SH Cash) or 63.4% (FR Cash)



    And then you'd have to add in other **** like bop bonuses etc.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by push4glory
    gl both guyz
    Ty sir, been fun battling you lately


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rusemandingo
    So Id planned to write something up in STTF for my 10k post but not wanting to incur the wrath of Gramps and Grampslike people, Ive decided to just do something ITT. Slightly TL/DR and emoish. Skip to below if you jsut want graphs.

    Been a pretty **** week. Started with me getting drunk at my old roommates new place Sunday night, passing out on a beer soaked balcony and puking my brains out into a potted plant. First time Id puked in a while and the hangover wasnt as bad as some had been but still was out of commission for a while. Woke up to discover my laptop battery had died and my power cord couldnt connect. Lay around all day hoping it would magically work and tried seeing if anyone else had a similar laptop i could charge my laptop on but no luck. Finally the following day i decided to be proactive about it and went to a local repair place who ended up being able to fix it for really cheap. Was such a relief, Id been stressing figuring out how to get a new one down here and how i would xfer my database over and stuff. Im still gonna look to upgrade sometime soon but at least now it can wait until my next trip to the states.

    This was the longest break Id taken from poker not counting visiting fam in the US, and was actually pretty refreshing. I came back ready to grind and appreciative that I had a working grind station didnt have to deal with all that crap Id been stessing over. The time away also gave me time to reflect on my drinking. I mean every time i get really drunk i lay around hung over the following day(s) and resolve to cut back or quit, but usually im getting back on the grind and dont think about it all that much. But not having my laptop and ability to play made me focus on it more. Previously on my hangover days Id stress about money I spent or damage i was doing to my body. But this time i thought more about how these 36 hour hang overs are really ****ing up the routine Ive gotten myself in. Not just with my grinding but with my nutrition and sleeping and working out. SNE is not gonna be easy and i really cant afford to be throwing a wrench into my routine every week or two. Added to that, there are a lot of things Id like to go home for this year. My buddies graduation party, first weekend on NCAA bball tourney, Dad's birthday, etc. And every 36 hour block that i waste hung over and useless and every extra day it takes me to get back in the groove is one less day Im able to spend doing stuff i want to in the states.

    So yeah I pretty much gave up a while ago on ever being able to go out and have a few drinks. So after the super bowl I think im gonna just gonna become a hermit until my half marathon in late April and just keep a good routine going. Theres def stuff i can do around here that wont involve drinking, Ill just have to figure out what they are

    Anyways Im making it sound a lot more emo than it is. Im just starting to realize the kind of work ethic and time it's gonna take to make SNE and also realize that im not gonna be able to party like I did last year an hope to make it. Unless i want to up my abi and with it variance and stress and swings. I right at 50k right now which is decently below pace, but Ive gotten 14k vpps since wednesday and am starting to lengthen both my 9m and 6m sessions. Ive also gotten a bit more comfortable with the 60s and the swings they bring. Right now id like to be near 70k at the end of the month and be around 150k the end of feb. As im typing this I just remembered the Duke/UNC game is in mid Feb so i guess i can add that to the list I days im gonna need to drink. fml

    So playing wise Ive been on a bit of a downer. Pre rb im on about a 4.5k downer which is the worst ive had. I have made around 3k in rb during that time so its not that bad and guess i need to start thinking of terms of post rb profit now that Im essentially a rb grinder. A lot of this has been from mtts. I played a small Tcoop sched and have been mixing in mtts during my 9 sessions, along with a few drunks 215s. My roll can handle it atm, but im already starting to try and bring my abi down by playing 16.50s and similar smaller bi turbos. And if this ds continues Ill prob start selling off action in the h75 and larger Bis i play. But as it is now i can handle them and they really help me play longer 9m sessions and keep focused so no plans to drop them.

    So now for some graphs. Heres the aforementioned mtt graph.


    The abi should drop on its own once i dont have tcoops to play. Dont really know though cause im not gonna play non turbos and its not worth taking table space away from 30-100 9m turbo and hts to add something like a 5.10 hyper or 11 turbo so not really sure what i can play midday besides the h44-75 and 25hypers and 1 3x turbo. Im sure josh can help me figure it out.

    Heres my 9m for the month. Ive decided to not post my redline for these anymore. Both so other regs wont see how soft they are if my redline is good and people wont know im a fish on a heater if it's crap


    Horseshoe def fell out of my ass in these, but I feel like im getting better at the turbos and learning 6m has helped me in a lot of 9m spots. I still feel like im outmatched by the regs early in 60s and 100s but i think i make up for it with my late game, and with a little postflop work can be one of the best regs in them.

    6m have been good. Running decently above ev at 30s and i assume 60s but still too lazy to get the redline patch.


    Been talking with jdawg about a lot of spots and think my game has improved drastically over the last month. Think ive ran at leat 1k spots and am planning on doing some work with Jdawg and Siq next week. Here's all my games for the 30s. Dont mind showing redline since theres already tons of regs in them and everyone knows what theyre beatable for.


    In all honestly i think id be happy if i could beat them for 1% long term but im still hopeful with some work i can get up to 2% or above.

    So yeah just wanted to write something for my 10k so i can go back to posting normally everywhere else. Playing the TCOOP main even tmrw so could use some rungood in that. Will prob post more tmrw or monday, just need to get to bed now. gl on sunday everyone
    Solid update man, people think that SNE is such an easy task and that it's just X hours of grinding every day, but it's truly not that simple, especially when you're not making 1k+ vpp's per hour. It truly takes dedication and a lot of hard work and I'm pretty damn sure you're going to get there because you're a smart person and realize when you need to make changes both for your 'job' and your life, but just speaking in general about the massive amounts of people who don't think SNE is hard.....there's a reason theres 350 or less SNE's every year.

    _______________________________________________

    Taking most of today off after the big finish to my week, will probably grind some tonight though.

    Ended up running pretty meh after the good start to the day in MTTs, not really any other meaningful scores and nothing near a FT again all day long.

    Was fun to put in that big MTT sesh, and now that it's over, I'm ready to go back to some HT grinding again .

    Think I'm doing a big study sesh with Ruse today in person, he's on his way over right now...should be fun!

    Gla out there grinding


    150k vpps

    Last edited by slayerv1fan; 01-28-2013 at 04:01 PM. Reason: vpp count
    01-28-2013 , 05:08 PM
    Just want to wish both of you luck and also thank you for posting so frequently in this thread/including charts

    I'm only just starting out at the $1.5s getting my head wrapped around hyper-turbos... building a sample (and hopefully bankroll) to see how I perform at these games to see if I should take them seriously. (ie if they work for me and how I approach the game)

    After playing a couple weeks and only 1100 games, I'm already... not shocked but impressed... at the frequency and size of swings in these games.

    Seeing you guys go through even crazier swings reinforces the fact that this is a part of playing hyper-turbos and encourages me to keep reviewing hands and keep practicing... I'm not saying that your swings assure me that my swings are just a result of the game and not bad play... but rather that they happen and I have to be able to deal with them if I want to be successful at these games and realize the 1-2% roi that is my goal
    01-28-2013 , 07:43 PM
    Do you ever see tables pop up when you close your eyes in the daytime or when you try to go to sleep at nighttime?



    I do.
    01-28-2013 , 10:54 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jdawg91
    Solid update man, people think that SNE is such an easy task and that it's just X hours of grinding every day, but it's truly not that simple, especially when you're not making 1k+ vpp's per hour. It truly takes dedication and a lot of hard work and I'm pretty damn sure you're going to get there because you're a smart person and realize when you need to make changes both for your 'job' and your life, but just speaking in general about the massive amounts of people who don't think SNE is hard.....there's a reason theres 350 or less SNE's every year
    It is easy, ppl are just lazy
    01-29-2013 , 12:06 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by debacle
    Do you ever see tables pop up when you close your eyes in the daytime or when you try to go to sleep at nighttime?



    I do.
    I've wondered if others experience the same. And many times when I've dozed off, I end up waking up all panicky thinking I'd slept off in the middle of a sess and sat outta bunch of MTTs. Or I'll wake up dreaming I'm in the middle of a fantastic session. Which would give rise to my suspicions that I'm dreaming cause I always run bad otherwise
    01-29-2013 , 01:03 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jdawg91
    For me, because I started the year as a SNE:

    FPPs: $79,999.55 (4999972 FPPs @ $.016 per FPP)
    VIP Stellar Rewards: $1200
    Milestone Cash Credits: $43200
    WCOOP Main Event: $5200

    Total: $129,599.55
    $/VPP: $0.129599552
    Rakeback: 71.3% (Tournaments/SH Cash) or 77.8% (FR Cash)





    For Ruse, because he started the year as a Supernova:
    FPPs: $55,999.55 (3499972 FPPs @ $.016 per FPP)
    VIP Stellar Rewards: $1200
    Milestone Cash Credits: $43200
    WCOOP Main Event: $5200

    Total: $105,599.55
    $/VPP: $0.105599552
    Rakeback: 58.1% (Tournaments/SH Cash) or 63.4% (FR Cash)

    How comes it's more % for FR Cash? What am I missing .. :S
    01-29-2013 , 01:10 PM
    They get special treatment because they play a boring game

    They used to get even higher rewards iirc
    01-29-2013 , 02:09 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by D3nBr0
    @ Ruse:

    Im also training for Half Marathon! When is urs? What training schedule/Program are u doing? (As in how many times a week u running and for how long etc)
    Right now i just do a ~2 mile run in the morning and some yoga/stretching type core work. Its 2 miles on sand so a bit tougher than street miles but i need to work my way up obv. Im still working my way into shape so im gonna start mixing in some more weight stuff and crosstraining once im a bit more fit.

    Gl with yours, what kind of training do you do?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by g3orgeluc4s
    Just want to wish both of you luck and also thank you for posting so frequently in this thread/including charts

    I'm only just starting out at the $1.5s getting my head wrapped around hyper-turbos... building a sample (and hopefully bankroll) to see how I perform at these games to see if I should take them seriously. (ie if they work for me and how I approach the game)

    After playing a couple weeks and only 1100 games, I'm already... not shocked but impressed... at the frequency and size of swings in these games.

    Seeing you guys go through even crazier swings reinforces the fact that this is a part of playing hyper-turbos and encourages me to keep reviewing hands and keep practicing... I'm not saying that your swings assure me that my swings are just a result of the game and not bad play... but rather that they happen and I have to be able to deal with them if I want to be successful at these games and realize the 1-2% roi that is my goal
    Yeah swings in these are gonna be pretty crazy compared to other games. The lower the buyin the higher your roi should be and therefor lowers swings. It doesnt seem to phase Jdawg that much but for me dealing with swings is a matter of having a new highest ds, feeling sick for a day or so, and then moving on with a little bit thicker skin. Best of luck.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by debacle
    Do you ever see tables pop up when you close your eyes in the daytime or when you try to go to sleep at nighttime?



    I do.
    Ha fun question. Ive pretty much always had bad dreams about school and work. When i worked as a waiter id dreamed of being absolutely slammed and somehow not getting to people. Same thing when i worked retail. Ive never really had something similar with online poker. The dreams i have had are usually me one tabling cash, maybe live or online cant really remember/tell, having a sick hand and stacking someone, only to realize that my hand wasnt what i thought it was and id lost. Or winning a big pot and then realizing it was a dream and thinking somehow if i could grab the chips and put them in my pocket id get them when i woke up.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yazzx
    How comes it's more % for FR Cash? What am I missing .. :S
    They get a 6xvvpp multiplier. The way the Stars guys explain it, FR was better rewarded in the old system so they needed to keep it "fair" for them in the new one. Seems pretty ridiculous to me for Stars to do something that that to keep a game going that might die otherwise, bad to **** with the ecosystem and all. But they seem pretty set on keeping it that way so w/e.

    Been doing some review work with other players the last few days and am seeing a lot of ways i can improve. Little scary and uncomfortable changing things up but its def for the best in the long run so Im gonna throw myself into in and see what happens.
    01-29-2013 , 02:11 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rusemandingo

    They get a 6xvvpp multiplier. The way the Stars guys explain it, FR was better rewarded in the old system so they needed to keep it "fair" for them in the new one. Seems pretty ridiculous to me for Stars to do something that that to keep a game going that might die otherwise, bad to **** with the ecosystem and all. But they seem pretty set on keeping it that way so w/e.
    Wtf I've played FR for years, never knew this. Thanks
    01-29-2013 , 10:11 PM
    Just dled the redline patch for 60s. Running above EV but redline is better than i expected it to be. Overall SNG graph for month so far.



    Wanna start catching up to SNE pace so gonna do freeroll/"prop"

    I need to grind 16k vpps between now and 9pm pacific time Sat night. Your 1 dollar to my 100 dollars. This will be available to two ppl. Must book with me.

    Post ITT that you want to book bet and ship $1 to l.a.ruseman. If you dont ship 1 hr after you say booked your bet will be forfeited and ill move to someone else that wants to do it. So you guys can waitlist if you want.


    Current VPP total
    01-29-2013 , 10:15 PM
    ITT
    01-29-2013 , 10:16 PM
    in for 1 to 100 bet, but you always win when I bet so easy game.

    edit: guess I can't because I don't have stars....Oh well GL
    01-29-2013 , 10:18 PM
    GLGL Ruse, I just shipped you the doll hair. TJ tonight? haha
    01-29-2013 , 11:12 PM
    bet booked, shipped (LPE22)
    01-29-2013 , 11:23 PM
    Booked with lolpaid and Kingnit.

    Sorry KN, not leaving house til Super Bowl Sunday. Ill be drinking that day so TJ is a definite possibility.
    b
    Yeah sorry Logan. Next time you can say booked and then have someone ship stars for you. Just trying out something to keep out complete busto randoms (which youre not obv)
    01-29-2013 , 11:42 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LTT777
    Good post bud. Congrats on 10k. Funny I had my 1k post yesterday and didn't even realize it and dumped it in some stupid merge thread.

    Anyway good luck with the not drinking. I'm in the same boat. I'm basically either going out and getting blasted or not going out at all. Two beers doesn't work for me (I'm actually allergic to alcohol, kind of interesting). So when I'm off the sauce (right now prepping for vegas and mexico trips coming up soon) I'm a hermit. Sounds like for what your goals are, what you want to do back in the states, and how hard you tend to go when you do go, going hermit mode for a big% of the year will probably do you a lot of good.

    Good luck in TCOOP and in your grind
    Yeah idk the milestone posts are only as big of a deal as you wanna make them. I think i did a strart thread for like 3.5k but aside from that ive just wasted them.

    IDK if im allergic but it does something. Like ill just be drunk and people will be convinced Im on crack or something. I can actually do just a few beers in certain situations and have a drink or two to wind down sessions. But if im around other people or in a party atmosphere Im basically drinking until i pass out or booze runs out.

    The hermit route is prob best and going off what sippin said, if i have my blotto nights planned out i can both plan for them and make myself earn them by grinding beforehand.

          
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