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04-19-2020 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
I don't think you understand how nitring plays. He never has AJs, very rarely has AQ combos, and never has suited wheel aces. His range is almost always AK, QQ+ after 3betting pre. Flop/turn it's just always AA/KK or AK.

But let's say he has AQ or AJ or even A5s sometimes because he should, even though he never does. You think he stacks those off in a multi way pot? Raising flop or turn is just praying he has AK or the rare AcJc and always folding out worse.

River isn't shitty because he makes flushes, it's shitty because the flush gets there occasionally for me and also for the fish in a protected pot. So he shouldn't vbet AK anymore since I can't call any worse hands and if I fold he still has to beat the player on the button to scoop anything. It just makes his bet range so much stronger (AA/KK only, some guys just AA with A of clubs) because in a 3 way pot one of us will have AcXc a decent chunk of the time, and I literally can't call with worse than AK otr.
Yea not sure on the nitring part it's a dangerous game with so many assumptions, I'm going broke here on turn and happy to see AK enough not to be bothered by AA,KK.
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04-19-2020 , 12:15 PM
Ya this is a really gross spot. I don’t think you should have a raising range on flop either. He has all nutted Hands and you have none besides 88 and maybe some AK 200bb deep. There’s also the threat of folding out 0% equity hands from BT which would be disastrous.

River is def a puke spot for all the reasons mentioned. Between you and BT one of you should have flush a very high % of the time. My gut was at first to say cal because you don’t have to be right THAT often and at first felt like you were near top of range. But you do have quite a few flushses. 9Tcc TJcc all AXcc QTcc QJcc etc... And ya BB can’t be value betting much anymore. Idk man. I prob sigh fold knowing me and BT have way too many flushes to have to call here but I’m not sure at all. Curious to see results and if he potentially turns over QJss or AcQs type hands.
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04-19-2020 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by reloadonsashagray
Yea not sure on the nitring part it's a dangerous game with so many assumptions, I'm going broke here on turn and happy to see AK enough not to be bothered by AA,KK.
yeah we usually get looked up plenty often by AK ott that it's certainly not aa losing play to just jam it. though some people are bet/folding AK ott (I'm bet folding AK ott vs most regs in a protected multi way pot, only stacking vs fish and loose aggro's) so not sure if it's the most ev.
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04-20-2020 , 01:35 AM
Can definitely see people value betting AK so don't think folding is ever an option.
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04-20-2020 , 01:39 AM
Don't play deep if your scared of going broke with a set in a 3bet pot. Weak ass poker.
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04-20-2020 , 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerKid168
Don't play deep if your scared of going broke with a set in a 3bet pot. Weak ass poker.
w0t games u playyin m8??/
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04-20-2020 , 03:58 AM
What games doesn't matter I won't be shaking in my boots with a set in a 3bet pot, 185bb deep. lol.
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04-20-2020 , 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerKid168
What games doesn't matter I won't be shaking in my boots with a set in a 3bet pot, 185bb deep. lol.
You must be SUCH a real man. Wow!

Last edited by Oladipo; 04-20-2020 at 05:28 AM.
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04-20-2020 , 06:07 AM
Bring on the grudge props, all us pro lurkers on 2p2 need some good drama to rail.
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04-20-2020 , 10:30 AM
interesting spot, I don’t think jamming turn should be discounted, his range should look like AA KK and AK and technically with the size he used turn it could be a combo draw thats commiting, that said river is very close as played and I may just fold

btw i dont think anyone folds AK to a turn jam, if his range is all AA KK and AK and nothing else we still have a +ev jam and there is no reason to see a river against this specific range
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04-20-2020 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
what's the 500nl offer?
let me look at some numbers real quick after i finish playing today and i'll get back to u on this. it'll be a good fair sweat, i'm not trying to angle or rope you into a bad bet.

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Originally Posted by IllSkill
How do you even verify prop bet details? Couldn’t you just have a bad start and purge the DB?
who da fook is dis guy


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anybody play this different? River is so puuuuuuuuuuuke

iPoker - $2 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 88.93 BB
SB: 113.58 BB
BB: 210.1 BB
Hero (UTG): 185.62 BB
UTG+1: 106 BB
MP: 80.42 BB
MP+1: 64 BB
MP+2: 28.56 BB
CO: 90.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

Hero raises to 3 BB, UTG+1 calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, BB raises to 16.5 BB, Hero calls 13.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 13.5 BB

Flop: (53 BB, 3 players) 8 A K
BB bets 17 BB, Hero calls 17 BB, BTN calls 17 BB

Turn: (104 BB, 3 players) 3
BB bets 65 BB, Hero calls 65 BB, BTN calls 55.43 BB

River: (289.43 BB, 3 players) 2
BB bets 111.6 BB, HERO ?
turn is a pretty easy shove on IGN fwiw. as played u can pry it out of my cold dead hands
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04-20-2020 , 11:32 AM
Yeah looks like a turn jam is in order. I would call river as played
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04-20-2020 , 11:36 AM
I'm a tournament donkey so obviously clueless, does seem unlikely V value bet club river into two players with AK unless maybe he has the Aclub himself though right? Seems close even heads up but with the player behind us surely this is a fold ?
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04-20-2020 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerKid168
Don't play deep if your scared of going broke with a set in a 3bet pot. Weak ass poker.
This. I suggest you don’t play deep Tgigs it appears you’re not stregically or emotionally equipped for it

And obviously jam turn
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04-20-2020 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by herbalerv
I'm a tournament donkey so obviously clueless, does seem unlikely V value bet club river into two players with AK unless maybe he has the Aclub himself though right? Seems close even heads up but with the player behind us surely this is a fold ?
He's not really betting into 2 people since button is already all in
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04-20-2020 , 11:59 AM
he also has zero bluffs though because other guy is allin, so its just a matter of guessing is he jamming AK or not, also the guy who’s already allin I imagine isnt dead money there on river club

anyway we’re getting a really good price so it does seem very close, can’t fault anyone for calling, don’t think folding is a big mistake if its one
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04-20-2020 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
who da fook is dis guy
Was that a dumb question or something?
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04-20-2020 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
interesting spot, I don’t think jamming turn should be discounted, his range should look like AA KK and AK and technically with the size he used turn it could be a combo draw thats commiting, that said river is very close as played and I may just fold

btw i dont think anyone folds AK to a turn jam, if his range is all AA KK and AK and nothing else we still have a +ev jam and there is no reason to see a river against this specific range
There is: we can see if the river is an A or K and fold. Imo call> ship ott.
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04-20-2020 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerKid168
What games doesn't matter I won't be shaking in my boots with a set in a 3bet pot, 185bb deep. lol.
This guy is the banished mirage01/garbagereg with a new sn and he plays $25nl unless he moved down again.

Hi mirage.
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04-20-2020 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
There is: we can see if the river is an A or K and fold. imo call> ship ott.
Wrong
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04-20-2020 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
This guy is the banished mirage01/garbagereg with a new sn and he plays $25nl unless he moved down again.

Hi mirage.
Doesn’t matter what stakes he’s currently playing he is 100% right here, tgigs shouldn’t be playing deep if he’s gonna be shaking in his boots with a set. Weak poker
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04-20-2020 , 04:58 PM
Cool story. I didn't say it did matter. I informed someone who was curious.
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04-20-2020 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
There is: we can see if the river is an A or K and fold.
Looks like this genius has finally solved the problem of getting sucked out on.
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04-20-2020 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerKid168
Looks like this genius has finally solved the problem of getting sucked out on.
Lmao
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04-20-2020 , 10:59 PM
mirage has more posts on 2+2 than dollars he’s made from poker lifetime
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