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02-20-2020 , 07:19 AM
I'm wanting to Degen in live mtts hardout. In order to do that I need money. The first step is getting some money. My method of getting the cash is not being a hooker since that's illegal. My second method to getting the cash is being a pimp. hang on can't do that either. so my two methods of getting cash won't work.

I have decided to get a job. At 29 years young and no experience in much I've decided to look for a job. Applied for 16 jobs today. Spend most of the time applying for jobs advertised online until quitting that **** and just rang half of them up. Much quicker that way.

Didn't get a job today but I actually enjoy ringing up people and trying to get a job. Went to one supermarket and just handed my resume in after he told me to come in and bring the cv. He said he isn't hiring but just hand in the cv and you never know what comes up.

Tomorrow I'm going to go and ring up two other places which one might be hiring in the near future. Allready handed my resume into these places but i'm following up. I gotta get into Degen ing hard and as soon as possible.
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02-22-2020 , 02:54 AM
See if you can get a hiring manager's email. x10 more likely to get a job that way. Signing up with a staffing agency is easy mode, but they're just gonna take advantage of you if you let them.
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02-22-2020 , 08:37 AM
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See if you can get a hiring manager's email. x10 more likely to get a job that way. Signing up with a staffing agency is easy mode, but they're just gonna take advantage of you if you let them.
Yes I know of someone who uses recruitment companies and they don't get the star treatment. I ring up the hiring manager or owner of the damn business and talk to them. Some of the places have women who sit and answer the calls and when I ask to be put through to the manager they ask what's it about. That is bad phone etiquette and I feel like telling them its none of their business. Their business is to answer the phone and put you through to who your asking for. I can understand why a lot of businesses fail if you can't even get in contact with the managers. I don't believe these women are trained to do this and if they are its ****ing stupid.

Last edited by LiveMTTDegen; 02-22-2020 at 08:43 AM.
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02-22-2020 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by LiveMTTDegen
Yes I know of someone who uses recruitment companies and they don't get the star treatment. I ring up the hiring manager or owner of the damn business and talk to them. Some of the places have women who sit and answer the calls and when I ask to be put through to the manager they ask what's it about. That is bad phone etiquette and I feel like telling them its none of their business. Their business is to answer the phone and put you through to who your asking for. I can understand why a lot of businesses fail if you can't even get in contact with the managers. I don't believe these women are trained to do this and if they are its ****ing stupid.
They are being trained to do this. Managers and business owners can get hundreds of sales calls etc a week and they hire a secretary as a gatekeeper so they can filter out the calls as directed to. This allows people to focus on their work and not spend all day on the phone taking calls.

I used to work in outbound sales and this was a common issue but I made it a game trying to get past them.
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02-22-2020 , 11:29 AM
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They are being trained to do this. Managers and business owners can get hundreds of sales calls etc a week and they hire a secretary as a gatekeeper so they can filter out the calls as directed to. This allows people to focus on their work and not spend all day on the phone taking calls.

I used to work in outbound sales and this was a common issue but I made it a game trying to get past them.
What sort of work are these managers and business owners do?

My father was a business owner and tells me that its bad to do this. With a net worth in the multiple millions I'm more inclined to listen to him. I did notice he spend most of his time talking on the phone and to customers in person. Most of the money he made was not from the hours of physical labour he put in but from passive income from the business. He most hated the paperwork and hiring a secretary like most business owners do he told me is just paying 40-50k a year when you can do it yourself 3-4 hours a day. He was often doing it after hours at night since he was working on other projects as well at the time.
Other businesses similar to his size hired these secretary's for 8 hours and like you say they are spending 4-5 hours a day just answering calls every 10 mins. He enjoyed answering the calls though.
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02-22-2020 , 11:46 AM
And another thing for the 3 and half years I was working in a supermarket I noticed that staff were very negative towards the managers and bosses in the place. The guy that owned the joint was never seen. I acutally never met the bloke. Were they making money? I dunno but they were always making mistakes and not pay workers who worked overtime and trying not to have people build up holiday pay. (I never had a problem but multiple others did)

Other staff were saying no one got a new uniform and staff turnover was huge while I was there. Nearly everyone there left in the 3 and half years I was there besides a few who I could count on one hand. And that includes even the supervisors who left because they gave them less hours.

I started with 15 hours and worked up to 30 then left to work 40 in another job.

This business also wants to know why your calling for which is why I brought it up. Of course none of this I will be saying to a future employer. In my view they were a top employer to work for since they paid me what we agreed on and they did.

Last edited by LiveMTTDegen; 02-22-2020 at 11:55 AM.
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02-22-2020 , 11:48 AM
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What sort of work are these managers and business owners do?

My father was a business owner and tells me that its bad to do this. With a net worth in the multiple millions I'm more inclined to listen to him. I did notice he spend most of his time talking on the phone and to customers in person. Most of the money he made was not from the hours of physical labour he put in but from passive income from the business. He most hated the paperwork and hiring a secretary like most business owners do he told me is just paying 40-50k a year when you can do it yourself 3-4 hours a day. He was often doing it after hours at night since he was working on other projects as well at the time.
Other businesses similar to his size hired these secretary's for 8 hours and like you say they are spending 4-5 hours a day just answering calls every 10 mins. He enjoyed answering the calls though.
If net worth is how you judge whether to listen to people's advice, how do you know who to listen to as you don't know most people's net worth?

Regardless, I think it's great that business owners talk to customers and are a true face to their business, but I also don't think they should be the ones answering the phone - not all calls need to be taken at that exact moment. There are only 24 hours in a day and you need to prioritise tasks sometime.

Hiring a secretary for 40-50k to do what would take you 3-4 hours a day means saving yourself c.800-1000 hours a year, probably more given everything else they do. I would expect that most business owners add more value doing stuff that isn't answering the phone and paperwork over those 800-1000 hours.
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02-22-2020 , 12:28 PM
I don't know your net worth but I assume its not in the millions if your a professional poker player and being playing since 2014.

I got a question though. If you had 1000 extra hours what would you do with it to add more value to your life?
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02-23-2020 , 12:55 PM
Got a online bankroll now on ignition.

I have a $140 bankroll so I will be start playing the 5.50s. I'm only 1 tabling them.

Once I have 20 buyins for each level I will start playing them. If I go under 20 buy-ins I will drop down. I may also play lower stakes if there's no mtts available at that point in time but ignition looks like they have a pretty good schedule. I'm really only doing these for practice and saving up money to play higher stake live mtts.

First MTT I will play will be in 35 mins is the $5.50 $500 guarantee. Wish me luck.
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03-01-2020 , 02:34 PM
Reading some strategy so i'm going to teach it.

Playing against opponents who limp in with a range of hands such as

22-99, 45s-JTs, ATs,KJs,QTs.

We would like to isolate these players even with hands such as K7o and bet the flop roughly 60% of the pot on most flops.
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