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Originally Posted by EhBC
I’ve played HS PLO on Ignition for about 4 years winning at ~4bb/100. I stopped playing there in January of 2024 after many regs, myself included, posted similar stories in the Ignition thread about concerns over collusion and/or botting. It was pretty obvious collusion was happening given that all hole cards are revealed in hand histories on Ignition 24h after play. People using RTA in anonymous games, now this seems near impossible to detect/police. I don’t have any evidence of portemilio using RTA but I’m very suspicious and I think that the screenshots of messages between him and squid/spork’s RTA stable presented in KnoxKnoxJokes PGC, his results, and some of the hand histories he’s posted warrant this skepticism.
First of all, winning at 15-20 EVbb/100 over a reasonable sample at 500plo on Ignition. This is online poker in 2024, is there anybody in any format winning at anything close to this? Of course this could be just variance/sample size but for comparison, I remember OTB RedBaron beating 500z for 10bb/100 and was/is considered one of the best NL players in the world. Moreover, Jnandez and co at PLO MasterMind compiled some data on the top 3 crushers on ACR in 2023 and they were winning at ~10bb/100.
Porte’s winrate is indicative of a world class player but one of the hand histories he recently posted makes me wonder how this can be the case. It’s a 200bb deep spot (probably no RTA solutions for deepstacked scenarios) where he RFI from the CO and calls a 3B from the BTN w K889ss. Flop is KJ6r and he leads for 50% and gets called. Turn 6 and he chooses to lead again for 50% leaving himself an SPR of ~1.8 on the river. He then says, “i think i shud bet bigger on flop and turn to set up for a river jam”. This isn’t an I think spot, it’s a fursur spot. Turn sizing here is trivial, your polar and want to size up to set up river for an SPR of less than or equal to 1 so we can get our entire stack in- maximizing value with our nutted hands and applying max pressure with our bluffs. Just because Visions bets 33% in the same scenario at 100bb doesn’t mean we should also bet small at 200bb.
I honestly hope you’re just a sicko crusher portemilio but instead of ****-talking others and claiming fake news, maybe explain why you were affiliated with the RTA stable after they were outed and/or just keep posting your logic with your hand histories and I’m sure we’ll be able to figure it out.
Your logic doesnt make sense. If i wanted to RTA why wouldnt i just RTA the deep spot that literally any program has (plomastermind etc). The whole accusation of RTA is just ridiculous in this day and age when literally anyway can. If I was i definetly wouldve been pretty stupid to make this thread. The whole point of this thread is to document my journey and post hands im unsure about. I haven't studied deepstack as extensively as I have 100bb. Most of my play is deep on ignition as i play 8 hour + sessions and the stacks get up to 400bb so im freestyling a lot which Id like to say im pretty good at. I'm unsure about a lot of the theoretical sizings used in deep play so yeah in that k889 hand i definetly botched the sizings bc i was using spr as if it was 100bb, which is exactly why i posted the hand because im not perfect. You literally called me out for making a mistake postflop and then are accusing me of RTA. . That doesn't mean that i cant outperform the field despite me not knowing the exact theory. If I was RTAing then wouldnt it be easier to just reset my stack and play every hand at 100bb?
I'm not getting into the stable because I was barely part of it. I played 20k hands and then dipped 16k in makeup. And just to reitterate everyone in that stable that was cheating was losing despite being a losing player because RTA doesnt make you win in online poker especially at midstakes where every hand goes 4-ways.
i havent studied deep spots and there are definetly solutions for deep spots where i couldve just looked it up. go get the plo mastermind and you can check. I'm not associating myself with something i was barely apart of 6 years ago. The only thing I have to thank squid for is 1) he introduced me to PLO 2) He showed me how to use a solver. Thats literally it. He did not teach me how to play poker. Because of him I was able to study on my own because I had access to the technology that is nowadays available to everyone so I got in early.
RTA claims are really hurtful especially without any evidence in online poker. Anyone can be cheating its really not hard to, so theres really no point in making accusations without proof given you have none because as far as im concerned half the regs on ACR and Bovada are but idgaf because i still think im better than them. I genuinely dont think RTA is good because playing exploitative poker is just always better. Obviously the better players you play against the more GTO becomes important but in the bovada games im playing in GTO is out the window for the most part im looking to extract max EV in most spots.
And i highly suggest you dont listen to the likes of Knox Knox, he is a random who wants attention.
And to answer your statement. I am a word class player and this thread is me displaying it. Its not a question Im going to make millions from poker. Im sorry you and your buddies are winning at 4bb/100 try getting better idk what to tell you. Just because someone has better results than you doesnt mean theyre cheating. And you commenting on my analysis is hilarious given that youre literally a 4bb/100 player. maybe you have something to learn from me?
Oh and just to make it known. Ive played in the ignition pools for over 3 years I know the pools extremely well and their tendencies. My winrate is not as high on ACR because the players are way better. And i will never play 10/20 on ignition again because of the reasons you stated.