JJT8, weird line from him, think ur play is okay ish. Check back turn also reasonable. If you’re suspicious maybe I prefer a check back because he could rip some combo equity and push you off your hand.

These turn spots IP in 3b pot after calling cbet is always a close trade off between equity realisation or bluffing.

The main principle is, are we being denied a lot of eq if we get jammed on? Do we have blockers to the c jam range?

It will be close for many of our hands. Reads are extremely helpful in this spot which is something you’re good at.

QJT7, don’t love this bet.

Flop interacts well with sb range but most players in this pool will not have much leads there so they have plenty of strong hands.

You do poor vs check raise. I think it’s a nice combo to check back, helps that range a lot too

This could be my 5c bias but is this turn call std? Seems loose. River with no reads kinda seems like a fold too. Calling every 2p with a Q is a lot of hands.

I do think the ev of a lot of those marginal bluff catchers is quite close so it’s not my only decision point.

Tough one.

Seems ok to fold. Probably quite close.

Regarding AQ63ds. Let’s not talk about the river.

I think on the flop the raise is not bad but I feel like it does not come from a place of true understanding and is a bit random aggression. I like to pull up this kind of spot in trainer and work out exactly the then follow up lines after check raising to really master the spot.

Btw regarding A765ds, I actually don’t like the 4bet.

It’s not a bad combo in theory. But you need some FE to make a 4b good. I don’t think people limp/3b and then fold sb v bb in this pool right?

With little to no FE what’s the point? Better to maintain deeper SPR IP.

obv fold eq is important but also having good board coverage in 4b pots 200bb deep across various boards is good. the hand is super playable IP, and in theory is a pure 4b anyways, so i dont really agree with what youre saying on that end. I dont like to deviate too much preflop unless i have a 100% read, and even if he does 5 bet its just an easy call, IP with 1.3 spr ish the hand just plays itself usually.

hmmm i actually didnt look at the sim for this, but i actually do think i understand the theory behind it- i think having two BDFDs makes it a better call because we do have playability - but its just a hand that also doesnt play THAT well on a lot of runouts, so i didnt mind in real time vs what i thought was a weaker cbet and an agro opponent to just take it down now. Its probably not a xr, id rather use a more polar hand like aq55. I think random spurts of aggresion also make u a bit unpredictable. this guy clearly got induced to call and float because he thought i was ****ing around, which ended up biting me in the ass so it kind of becomes a leveling war. Thats when the game becomes fun imo because now me and him can really start going at it but i agree with u this specific hand ( and why i posted it) was definetly too loose, gotta brush up on this spot for sure. I think id rather pure raise this hand with 0 BDFD, mix regular BDFD, and pure call BDNFD and 2BFD, probably how id go about in the future

I actually talked to one of my friends who plays hu full time HS, he agrees with you i think i overestimated the value of this hand. He pretty confidently told me turn call is super close but river call is just pure fold we have so many better hands, and he told me that the 7 is a really bad card to have because it blocks a lot of bluffs

You know this range much better than me so you’re probably right.

But just some food for thought

Let’s say A765ds is a pure 4b in gto. How big do you think the ev difference is? 1bb ish?

Does that assume our opponent folds sometimes pre to 4b? Even if it is just 10% FE, 10% of 12bb pre is 1.2bb in ev

What do you think your edge is, as a more exploitative reads based player in 200bb 3b pots IP? In a pot of 18bb, how much ev do you think you gain from the situation?

Relative to getting a 4b in pre, which reduces the SPR and therefor diminishes ur positional advantage.

Re Aq63, well you got him to put in a ton of money with total bananas so it seems like a great line. So it’s a line I would experiment with seeking out as much as possible in that pool, but just understanding the turn and river play really wel so you can navigate the situation best. I like to get an understanding of not just the solver play but the actual ev for each line on turn/river. That understanding helps a lot with adjusting our ranges.

In theory it doesn’t seem anything close to a call. So maybe you marked the hand because you correctly picked up on something?

Here’s where I like understanding the ev of calldowns. Maybe top 2+Q is a pure call. And this a pure fold. But maybe the difference is just a few bbs? And your reads could in some cases far outweigh that.

Or maybe the call is -10bb and you can say wel it’s really hard for reads to make up for that difference.

I also like getting into turn ranges here to understand the get to river range better. How many bluffs should they have? How many bluffs do they have if they bet 75% of their AA/QQ?

I don't understand this stuff as well you guys, but doesn't the 4bet assume that sb has a balanced limp rr strategy? Realistically he will probably be more weighted to AA combinations if I had to guess.

Also, adding to what Crimson said, this is one the spots where I like to uncheck the hide 0% combos box in plotrainer so that I can see the ev difference.

ehhh the people that are limp raising from sb usually know what therye doing, its usually the people that limp from utg with aces that are fish and when u get 4b its like always aces. but if i had to guess yes it might be more weighted towards aces but still not 100% (he had aq88 ds, And called a 4b with it, which is standard in gto land). Again, i dont like making too many assumptions preflop since ive seen some crazy ****. One thing that i agreed that crimson mentioned is "isnt the ev of calling and playing a 3b pot ip deeper just higher". Id have to think about that but 4b pots are also a part of the game tree that a lot of people might be messing up, so theres EV in playing huge pots where people are making mistakes as well (not leading enough, not betting enough, too passive etc). Theres a lot of bluffing and leading in 4b pots that people dont do, so it goes both ways. in the preflop sim tho calling and 4betting are relatively similar EVs though. just depends! like i said before, its more for board coverage and stacking people on boards that they might not expect i hit

Yeah it’s a really good point people def play very poor, straightforward/face up in deep 4b pots. Also a nice line to get into.

here are this months results (starting oct 16th)

Ran super hot. There was a pretty big learning curve just getting used to the game again at 2/5. My winrate went from like 20bb first 10k hands to 6bb, so i definetly punted a lot at 2/5. Once i started playing 5/10 I think I was more confident/comfortable again. Volume is fine considering I rlly only started playing 6h+ days on the 20th.

YTD results since April (before my laptop with my other data broke) + 2 months off ish in June/July/Aug.



Running EV overall which is nice

i simply cannot lose i am running so fkn hot.

3b pot co vs btn 200bb deep ish

flop q73 2t, he x i x, turn 2, he x i bet 3/4 he tank pots i rejam. I think in theory this is what solver does ( i saw a similar spot to this but lower spr) because opponents are supposed to ahve bluffs here but when he tank jams turn its sos value heavy i shud just call . tough spot tbh dont lose to that much value esp w a queen. ill lyk what he had once i get some feedback

mp (fish) opens, i call btn (loose but fish opened), sb calls bb calls. flop a67 2t, i x sb x bb x fish bets 1/2 i call on btn and sb jams, big blind folds MP folds , do we have to call off here vs his range? it looks like a snap call but idk how well were doing here

one might say this is a pretty good week in the 5/10 streets!

I would say v easy stack off. Did quick calculation and at worst you have ~36% equity vs his range but probably way more on average.

thats INSANE

this on ignition?

Thats a really tough one. What do u think people usually have here?

I like a flopbet here sometimes this deep. You can bomb spade turns and apply more pressure to his range. This deep he will raise the flop quite strong and the hands that do generally have you crushed so you don't get denied that much eq.

totally fine to check, but i think it can be easy to play this spot too passive and bet too polarised and not utilise the situation to apply pressure enough

Not playing plo anymore but i remember always got excited when i picked up the nfd on turn with tp only to find out i am against a set. Obv i can be biased and not a good plo reg in the brief time i tried to learn the game

yessir!