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03-23-2020 , 10:52 AM
Life Update

So the past 3 days, I played a lot of poker between friends. I estimate that we probably played about 15 hours worth of online tournaments over the 3 days, half of which were PLO tournaments. We were trying to play seriously, but there was a bit of gamble/spew to it all and we often ended up just making random flips like betting on red or black cards to come on the flop.

Originally we were going to play for real money. We were using play chips, but we were keeping track of scores and I ran pretty hot and was up $700. But at the end of the 3 days, we ultimately decided to cancel all the scores, since some players complained that we were just having fun and shouldn't be exploiting friends for money. Admittedly, I got a bit frustrated, being the biggest winner in the group, but I ultimately agreed that friends are worth more than money and dropped the scores. So we all broke even.

Around this time, I heard the news: Australia has gone into lockdown, effective from Tuesday onwards. All non-essential buildings are being forced to close, including gyms, hotels, bars and casinos. This is pretty huge news, as it means my wife is now going to be temporarily unemployed. It also means I can't go to the gym anymore and no one can play live poker, unless done at a home game.

But there's a silver lining: the online games are looking better than ever. So many live players are now playing on the apps. The games are softer than ever before and there's twice as many tables running as usual, at any given time. So I think that this whole coronavirus situation could actually be a blessing in disguise.

Today I used this opportunity to put in a short but sweet 2.5hr session. I managed to win just over 3 buyins, bringing the bankroll up to $3300 now. I plan to play more tonight, but I thought I'd take a break and give you all this update.

Here are a couple of random hands from today's session:

Hand 12: Nothing like a good squeeze

$150 effective, 9-handed
UTG+1 raises $4
MP1 calls $4
MP2 calls $4
BTN calls $4
Hero 3bets $26 BB with 87cc
UTG+1 calls $26
MP1 folds
MP2 calls $26
BTN folds

Flop ($86.50, 3ways) Qs 7h 3h

Hero bets $17

Spoiler:
Both fold

Feels good to just print $$$ that easily without having to risk too much.


Hand 13: Facing an unknown Table Hero

$100, 6-handed
UTG raises $2.50
Villain calls $2.50 MP
Hero 3bets $12.50 SB with KQo
UTG folds
Villain calls $12.50

Some context: I just sat down at the table and everyone is unknown, however, my app marked villain as a "table hero", meaning his VPIP is above 50%, so he is presumably a very loose/fishy player.

Flop ($28.50) QJ6r

Hero bets $9
Villain raises to $27
Hero calls $27

Turn ($82.50) QJ6A

Hero checks
Villain jams $60.50

Spoiler:
Hero tank folds

It felt a bit disgusting folding here to a potentially spewy fish when I'd already invested almost half my stack, but the Ace is just so good for my range and I have so many AJ/AQ/AK hands here that I didn't think I needed to defend KQ.


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Originally Posted by .isolated
Piggybacking on SMRR's question: what are the highest stakes you think you can beat on teh apps?
The highest stake that I'm confident I can beat is 100nl. When the bankroll grows, I'll take some shots at 200nl and see what happens. Maybe I'll be a winner there, maybe I'll get crushed. I have no idea yet.
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03-23-2020 , 11:01 AM
There is no silver lining - hundreds of people are dying.
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03-23-2020 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Cinque Mtume
There is no silver lining - hundreds of people are dying.
hundreds?

try tens of thousands.

probably into the hundreds of thousands or millions by the time everything is done
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03-23-2020 , 11:13 AM
Sorry mate.
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03-23-2020 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
we ultimately decided to cancel all the scores, since some players complained that we were just having fun and shouldn't be exploiting friends for money. Admittedly, I got a bit frustrated, being the biggest winner in the group, but I ultimately agreed that friends are worth more than money and dropped the scores. So we all broke even.
Quite an unbalanced play there bud.

Spoiler:
You got exploited.

Last edited by Shipnickle; 03-23-2020 at 11:32 AM.
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03-23-2020 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Originally we were going to play for real money. We were using play chips, but we were keeping track of scores and I ran pretty hot and was up $700. But at the end of the 3 days, we ultimately decided to cancel all the scores, since some players complained that we were just having fun and shouldn't be exploiting friends for money. Admittedly, I got a bit frustrated, being the biggest winner in the group, but I ultimately agreed that friends are worth more than money and dropped the scores. So we all broke even.
Dude, you are like the biggest sucker in the history of poker. This seems to be a running theme in your life: your friends take advantage of you and then you go along with it because the friendship is more important than the money.

And of course wtf @ gambling it up with friends for 15 hours when we're on the brink of a global depression and your wife is losing her job?!?


edit: no I hadn't seen the previous post when I decided to bold specific parts of your post.
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03-23-2020 , 12:34 PM
There's zero errors in what I said, I'm vastly smarter than anyone in this thread, and all of you are basically collectivist sheep.
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03-23-2020 , 12:37 PM
Wow your friends really just take advantage of you at every opportunity, huh? That's kind of sad.

Good job playing 2.5 hours of poker in 3 days, that's a big step up from 2 hands a day. What's your plan going forward? Lots of chess, little poker? What are the breadwinners of your family doing?
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03-23-2020 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
There's zero errors in what I said, I'm vastly smarter than anyone in this thread, and all of you are basically collectivist sheep.
"Eugenics is smart and right" hasn't been popular since the 1940s for some reason.

Last edited by aoFrantic; 03-23-2020 at 01:16 PM.
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03-23-2020 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
I'm vastly smarter than anyone in this thread
What is a statement said by people who usually aren't very smart?
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03-23-2020 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
What is a statement said by people who usually aren't very smart?

Sounds like he’s running for president with talk like that.


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03-23-2020 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
There's zero errors in what I said, I'm vastly smarter than anyone in this thread, and all of you are basically collectivist sheep.
Not sure why you are trying to gain so much attention : you did the same thing in season 1 when you again had the dumbest and most cringe-worthy post over there as well... I mean, you do realize it is hard to be dumber then 6bet, right

Last edited by Dubnjoy000; 03-23-2020 at 01:42 PM. Reason: a whole lot of conspirancy-theorist-nut-cases also invading facebook during this pandemic...
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03-23-2020 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinque Mtume
There is no silver lining - hundreds of people are dying.
Yeah but that doesn't mean we're not allowed to look at the positives. Almost every disaster leads to some good things happening during and afterwards. And in this case: coronavirus led to a new boom in online poker, which I'm grateful for.

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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
And of course wtf @ gambling it up with friends for 15 hours when we're on the brink of a global depression and your wife is losing her job?!?
What else am I supposed to do? If I'm stuck at home all day, I might as well socialise with my friends online, play some games, have a bit of fun.

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Originally Posted by gh0ulpatrol
Good job playing 2.5 hours of poker in 3 days, that's a big step up from 2 hands a day. What's your plan going forward? Lots of chess, little poker? What are the breadwinners of your family doing?
You don't understand: 2 hands is the minimum goal each day. That doesn't mean I plan to stop after 2 hands. If I'm capable of grinding 50 hours a week, then I will. Like the purpose of the 2 hand challenge isn't to play exactly 2 hands every day. The purpose is to use small goals as a way of avoiding procrastination. Because if your goal is to play 2 hands, you will do it immediately. And once you get started, you'll probably play longer anyway. But if your goal is to play an 8 hour session, it's very easy to procrastinate and put it off till later.

My plan moving forward is to continue grinding, continue watching poker videos, continue analysing my hand histories and look for some way to do exercise without the gym (most likely pushups and situps at home, then going for a run).

Speaking of analysing hand histories, here is yet another one I played today:

Hand 14: Triple barrel bluffing against perceived capped range

$100 effective
UTG+1 limps $1
UTG+2 limps $1
Hero raises $5 CO with 65hh
SB calls $5
UTG+1 calls $5

Flop ($17, 3ways) Jh Js 7s

SB checks
UTG+1 checks
Hero bets $6
SB folds
UTG+1 calls $6

Turn ($29, HU) Jh Js 7s Qd

UTG+1 checks
Hero bets $20.83
UTG+1 calls $20.83

River ($70.66) Jh Js 7s Qd 9d

UTG+1 checks
Hero jams $68.17

Spoiler:
UTG+1 calls $68.17
UTG+1 shows Qh Qc (boat) and scoops a $200 pot

I really thought my opponent was capped, but I guess not... Well played, villain.
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03-23-2020 , 01:52 PM
"The black plague was good for gravediggers."

6b, you probably should try being a good person if you're also going to be a total pushover in life.
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03-23-2020 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me



You don't understand: 2 hands is the minimum goal each day. That doesn't mean I plan to stop after 2 hands. If I'm capable of grinding 50 hours a week, then I will. Like the purpose of the 2 hand challenge isn't to play exactly 2 hands every day. The purpose is to use small goals as a way of avoiding procrastination. Because if your goal is to play 2 hands, you will do it immediately. And once you get started, you'll probably play longer anyway. But if your goal is to play an 8 hour session, it's very easy to procrastinate and put it off till later.
You have a history of being very weak mentally. Remember all the goals you've set for yourself over the past few years only to immediately ignore them? I understand that your intention is to try to trick yourself into doing the right thing, but that never works because you always regress. You have to actually act like an adult, there are no half measures.
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03-23-2020 , 02:42 PM
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Originally we were going to play for real money. We were using play chips, but we were keeping track of scores and I ran pretty hot and was up $700. But at the end of the 3 days, we ultimately decided to cancel all the scores, since some players complained that we were just having fun and shouldn't be exploiting friends for money. Admittedly, I got a bit frustrated, being the biggest winner in the group, but I ultimately agreed that friends are worth more than money and dropped the scores. So we all broke even.
holy ****, your friends take advantage of you every chance they get don't they? are these the same friends who exploited you with predatory loans?
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03-23-2020 , 02:42 PM
Hand 12: looks good
Hand 13: I think if your opponent is that loose, you should probably just call it off. Hands like QT, Q9, T9, 98, 65 and other random stuff can play this way.
Hand 14: Your opponent does not have to raise Jx or 77 on that flop. He probably is, but he doesn't have to. He should also never raise JJ imo. 6 5 is not the best tripple barrel candidate either. I think A T may be a good one. Lots of blocking with that combo. You could also choose not to tripple barrel bluff on this runout since it is 3-way on the flop.

The reason why I argue calling river donks lighter is also because your bluff candidates are removed since they have to fold. For example, say you were planning on betting top 20% of hands and 10% bluffs for a pot sized river jam. Your opponent donks the pot into you, now those 10% bluffs are removed and if you are calling tighter than 20%, that is quite exploitable.

Granted, some players are playing a strategy where their river leading range is strong, I do not believe this is correct to assume this as the standard play.

Another thing, people are right that your friends essentially stole $700 from you. You have a right to be pissed.

WorldzMine, not sure if this is trolling, but OldManDecaf pretty much laid out the facts in front of you. What seems more likely, that the virus is a serious problem or that it is a global conspiracy?

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03-23-2020 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Yeah but that doesn't mean we're not allowed to look at the positives. Almost every disaster leads to some good things happening during and afterwards. And in this case: coronavirus led to a new boom in online poker, which I'm grateful for.
You do understand, that besides the massive death toll, the economical consequences will be huge?
Businesses going bankrupt, people losing their jobs, their homes etc.

How will that affect your poker career??
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03-23-2020 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Beck
You do understand, that besides the massive death toll, the economical consequences will be huge?
Businesses going bankrupt, people losing their jobs, their homes etc.

How will that affect your poker career??
You see, 6b is not very smart. 20-30% unemployment and the world economy contracting that amount is worse than black friday for poker. This won't kill poker, but games will be smaller for years.
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03-23-2020 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
You see, 6b is not very smart. 20-30% unemployment and the world economy contracting that amount is worse than black friday for poker. This won't kill poker, but games will be smaller for years.
Yup. This. Unfortunately. Games are tremendously good right now, but this will barely last a few weeks... Not that 6bet will play more then a few hours during these weeks regardless, and this opportunity will slip by, like many others prior...

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
6b, you probably should try being a good person if you're also going to be a total pushover in life.
This. Unfortunately he does not distinguish the difference in between being a nice guy and being a good person. I (mistakingly) believed he was a fairly decent lad in season 1 and gave the benefit of the doubt of a slim chance in succeeding not only in his poker endeavours, but at going beyond his laziness/degen ways/narcissistic attitude. Now, not at all. I believe he is a self-absorbed-dumb-little-shyt and beyond redemption (or a runner-runner perfect from it)
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03-23-2020 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Life Update

So the past 3 days, I played a lot of poker between friends. I estimate that we probably played about 15 hours worth of online tournaments over the 3 days, half of which were PLO tournaments. We were trying to play seriously, but there was a bit of gamble/spew to it all and we often ended up just making random flips like betting on red or black cards to come on the flop.

Originally we were going to play for real money. We were using play chips, but we were keeping track of scores and I ran pretty hot and was up $700. But at the end of the 3 days, we ultimately decided to cancel all the scores, since some players complained that we were just having fun and shouldn't be exploiting friends for money. Admittedly, I got a bit frustrated, being the biggest winner in the group, but I ultimately agreed that friends are worth more than money and dropped the scores. So we all broke even.
I can absolutely guarantee that if you were the one who was down money and there were winning, they wouldn't have said it was "just for fun". They would have happily continued playing and taken your money. You have zero clue when anyone is taking advantage of you. How can you lack that much awareness? It's astounding.

Also you never answered my question of whether you would class yourself as a great player?
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03-23-2020 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubnjoy000
Yup. This. Unfortunately. Games are tremendously good right now, but this will barely last a few weeks... Not that 6bet will play more then a few hours during these weeks regardless, and this opportunity will slip by, like many others prior...



This. Unfortunately he does not distinguish the difference in between being a nice guy and being a good person. I (mistakingly) believed he was a fairly decent lad in season 1 and gave the benefit of the doubt of a slim chance in succeeding not only in his poker endeavours, but at going beyond his laziness/degen ways/narcissistic attitude. Now, not at all. I believe he is a self-absorbed-dumb-little-shyt and beyond redemption (or a runner-runner perfect from it)
Yeah, the week has been great online for me. The midstakes PLO zoom pools are available 24/7 and have nearly double average players. But nobody has had to pay a bill yet. Soon, people who haven't worked for a week or two will be paying rent and credit card bills and other stuff.

And yes, 6b tries to appease everyone all the time. This is a huge personal flaw.
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03-23-2020 , 04:58 PM
Played for a few more hours today and went on a nice little heater. The bankroll is back up to its peak level of $3500 now, which is pleasing to see. Here was one interesting bluff I pulled:

Hand 15: Perfect blockers

$94 effective
UTG raises to $2.50
Hero calls $2.50 SB with 6s 6h
BB calls $2.50

Flop ($7.50, 3ways) Th 5c 5d

Hero checks
BB checks
UTG bets $3.75
Hero calls $3.75
BB folds

Turn ($15) Th 5c 5d Jh

Hero checks
BB bets $15
Hero raises to $39
BB calls $39

River ($93) Th 5c 5d Jh 8s

Hero jams $48.75

Spoiler:
BB folds

I thought this was a pretty interesting spot to bluff, since I completely block out all combos of 65s with my specific hand. Was it a good bluff, or did I just get lucky?
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03-23-2020 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
What is a statement said by people who usually aren't very smart?
Dude, I have a 165 IQ and studied theoretical physics. I'm not getting into a ******ed argument with people who likely only possess average IQ's and that openly accept the bs they're constantly fed.
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03-23-2020 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Played for a few more hours today and went on a nice little heater. The bankroll is back up to its peak level of $3500 now, which is pleasing to see. Here was one interesting bluff I pulled:

Hand 15: Perfect blockers

$94 effective
UTG raises to $2.50
Hero calls $2.50 SB with 6s 6h
BB calls $2.50

Flop ($7.50, 3ways) Th 5c 5d

Hero checks
BB checks
UTG bets $3.75
Hero calls $3.75
BB folds

Turn ($15) Th 5c 5d Jh

Hero checks
BB bets $15
Hero raises to $39
BB calls $39

River ($93) Th 5c 5d Jh 8s

Hero jams $48.75

Spoiler:
BB folds

I thought this was a pretty interesting spot to bluff, since I completely block out all combos of 65s with my specific hand. Was it a good bluff, or did I just get lucky?
I'm a bit reluctant to bluff players that make pot sized bets, but the bluff itself seems quite reasonable. You're usually folding out missed draws rather than Jx, but it looks profitable overall.
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