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02-11-2022 , 09:25 AM
Honestly all this focus on his hand histories and mocking his play is all a massive distraction from the real issue at hand which is his gambling addiction and poor life choices. Arguing over his poker abilities is totally besides the point - whatever way you want to paint it the guy started with $5k, was up over $10k in profits on top of that and 2 months later is busto.

That's what really matters here.
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02-11-2022 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Profit: $9374
Time Played: 265h 30m
Bankroll: $900 (+whatever my wife bankrolls me if I bust this)

How is your profit 9374 but your BR 900? What did you spend nearly 8500 on?
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02-11-2022 , 09:28 AM
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Instead, everyone says that the reason I'm broke is purely because of factors that were inside my control?
Take responsibility for **** sake. Everyone knows it's your fault you're broke because you've documented the ways in which you've lost your money. Go back and read. Or just look at my list again:

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- Pit games. Only once this year but that one time cost you $1.6k
- A random trip for $2.5k-$5k because you feel sad about being locked up.
- Playing $2/$5 (and higher!) when you can grind $1/$3 and get a real bankroll.
- Playing drunk.
- Spending far too much money for someone trying to get a bankroll and start a real life.
- Chasing losses.
- Random tilt at every stake you play.
Nobody made you make all of those horrible decisions. Be a ****ing man and admit your mistakes. It's on you. Not luck and nobody else, especially not your wife. All $10k is on you.

edit: You've got to realize that even if you're on a downswing, you shouldn't be broke. Hopefully you can admit that much to yourself. You should have at least $7k and just chugging along at $1/$3. You just have problems that have little to do with the actual poker being played.

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02-11-2022 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Why is it that whenever I run good, people in the thread are so quick to call it out. "You've been sunrunning" everyone says, when I run above EV.

But when the opposite happens, no one in the thread seems willing to admit that I've been running bad? No one has said "you're on a downswing 6bet me, hang in there and keep grinding! You'll dig your way out of the hole soon!

Instead, everyone says that the reason I'm broke is purely because of factors that were inside my control?

So what, if I lose it's my fault and I deserve it, but if I win it's just variance and I don't deserve it?
It's because you post the HHs which have so many mistakes. If you focused on fixing these and playing solid poker you could do well but you seem more inclined to gamble with marginal hands. The sun running is also because the HH you posted were a series of hands where you got it in with very little equity and rivered two or six outters. Obviously the HH you share are going to be somewhat selective on your part and you give us the most juicy ones so outside that you might be making some more sensible plays but the ones you do post have not been great. I've only been here since the Bank roll challenge ended so can only comment on the very recent ones
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02-11-2022 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by nnandrei
Your bankroll is only enough for NL10, max NL20. If you don't start taking **** seriously you will be broke in max 2 days.

Stop playing on a ****ing phone, play on a site that allows HUDs, just take things a bit seriously. Do you ever learn anything?
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02-11-2022 , 09:34 AM
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If you focused on fixing these and playing solid poker you could do well but you seem more inclined to gamble with marginal hands.
Again people are really focusing on the wrong thing if they think his poker playing is the main problem here. Talk **** about the hands he posts all you want (and I admit they're often awful even if I never comment on them myself) but no matter how bad you say he is he won over $10k in a short space of time with a $5k starting roll and still went bust in under 2 months

He will never do well playing poker if we take 'well' to mean something like 'make a living off poker' or 'progress in life via poker'
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02-11-2022 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Why is it that whenever I run good, people in the thread are so quick to call it out. "You've been sunrunning" everyone says, when I run above EV.

But when the opposite happens, no one in the thread seems willing to admit that I've been running bad? No one has said "you're on a downswing 6bet me, hang in there and keep grinding! You'll dig your way out of the hole soon!

Instead, everyone says that the reason I'm broke is purely because of factors that were inside my control?

So what, if I lose it's my fault and I deserve it, but if I win it's just variance and I don't deserve it?
They just don't understand how variance works in Australia. Buncha noobs.
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02-11-2022 , 09:43 AM
6B,

I was once infamous on this forum, around 15-20 years ago. I'm not going to reveal who I am, but I was very similar to you, and I would like to try to help you. I am now successful in life by all "traditional" measures and I hope you take the steps needed to improve your life as well. I have been very inactive in the poker world for 10+ years now, but a poker friend directed me to this thread.

This site, and poker, is toxic for you, and also the younger version of me. I am going to give you advice that no one else is going to give you -

1. Leave this thread and this site, and never come back. When I was younger, I cared way too much about what other people thought of me. I was very insecure. I tried to seek validation from internet strangers. Every active poster in this thread is a loser (you are also a loser by the way). Just live your own life and take steps each days to improve yourself. Stop caring so much about what other anonymous people think about you. They're all losers and many of them are bullying you. You are not their monkey and you are not obligated to entertain people here. So don't.

2. There are a few people in your life that truly matter. None of them are here. You shouldn't bad mouth your wife, your wife's family, your mom, etc. here. You shouldn't air out your dirty laundry, especially since it's so easy to find your true identity and your social media. I assume your wife doesn't know about this thread. Delete this thread if you can and work on yourself and on your marriage. I'm not saying you have martial issues, but I don't think it's a good look to be so public about the inner workings of your marriage.

Best of luck.
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02-11-2022 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BobbyPeru
How is he not trolling us with that last post? It was too perfect. I nearly spit out my coffee.
The writers have become too predictable. He's about to Bink a miracle MTT or his long lost uncle will die and leave him another 10k
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02-11-2022 , 09:49 AM
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Again people are really focusing on the wrong thing if they think his poker playing is the main problem here. Talk **** about the hands he posts all you want (and I admit they're often awful even if I never comment on them myself) but no matter how bad you say he is he won over $10k in a short space of time with a $5k starting roll and still went bust in under 2 months



He will never do well playing poker if we take 'well' to mean something like 'make a living off poker' or 'progress in life via poker'
I do agree with all of this and the best thing he could do is get away from the whole scene. I was just addressing his point about why people say he is sun running when doing well and don't call it a downswing when he is losing. I'm trying to say that he is making losing plays. But at this point there are more pressing issues than poker hands. Hope he can make some sensible choices now
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02-11-2022 , 09:56 AM
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Why is it that whenever I run good, people in the thread are so quick to call it out. "You've been sunrunning" everyone says, when I run above EV.

But when the opposite happens, no one in the thread seems willing to admit that I've been running bad? No one has said "you're on a downswing 6bet me, hang in there and keep grinding! You'll dig your way out of the hole soon!

Instead, everyone says that the reason I'm broke is purely because of factors that were inside my control?

So what, if I lose it's my fault and I deserve it, but if I win it's just variance and I don't deserve it?
And just like that, the self reflection has gone...

So whose fault is it that you have no bankroll management discipline? This is a fundamental requirement of a poker professional. You had 30 full stacked buy ins for 1/3. Are you telling us with a straight face that playing in games you weren't rolled for was outside your control?
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02-11-2022 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Why is it that whenever I run good, people in the thread are so quick to call it out. "You've been sunrunning" everyone says, when I run above EV.

But when the opposite happens, no one in the thread seems willing to admit that I've been running bad? No one has said "you're on a downswing 6bet me, hang in there and keep grinding! You'll dig your way out of the hole soon!

Instead, everyone says that the reason I'm broke is purely because of factors that were inside my control?

So what, if I lose it's my fault and I deserve it, but if I win it's just variance and I don't deserve it?

You’ve spent almost 30-50% of your liferoll on expenses in January alone.

Can’t you accept a level of responsibility for this outcome?


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02-11-2022 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Advice For 6B
6B,

I was once infamous on this forum, around 15-20 years ago. I'm not going to reveal who I am, but I was very similar to you, and I would like to try to help you. I am now successful in life by all "traditional" measures and I hope you take the steps needed to improve your life as well. I have been very inactive in the poker world for 10+ years now, but a poker friend directed me to this thread.

This site, and poker, is toxic for you, and also the younger version of me. I am going to give you advice that no one else is going to give you -

1. Leave this thread and this site, and never come back. When I was younger, I cared way too much about what other people thought of me. I was very insecure. I tried to seek validation from internet strangers. Every active poster in this thread is a loser (you are also a loser by the way). Just live your own life and take steps each days to improve yourself. Stop caring so much about what other anonymous people think about you. They're all losers and many of them are bullying you. You are not their monkey and you are not obligated to entertain people here. So don't.

2. There are a few people in your life that truly matter. None of them are here. You shouldn't bad mouth your wife, your wife's family, your mom, etc. here. You shouldn't air out your dirty laundry, especially since it's so easy to find your true identity and your social media. I assume your wife doesn't know about this thread. Delete this thread if you can and work on yourself and on your marriage. I'm not saying you have martial issues, but I don't think it's a good look to be so public about the inner workings of your marriage.

Best of luck.

This post is meaningful advice. Heed it 6bet. Some people have a journey in life that means only you can relate to it.
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02-11-2022 , 10:07 AM
If you win $10k in a short space of time playing 1/3, you ran good. Obviously.

If you lose your 90% of your bankroll in an even shorter space of time, you made very poor decisions that were not necessarily strat-related. Obviously.
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02-11-2022 , 10:10 AM
Honestly 6bet, you shouldn't be listening to anyone who says you're sunrunning or feeling the bad side of variance. The reason is because no one knows whether that is the case or not. Not you, and not anyone else. No poker player in the history of poker has ever known for a fact whether, over a certain period of more than a few hands, they have been running good or bad. Because it's impossible to measure. Or at at the very least, it has never been measured, it might be possible in theory. The same actually goes for luck in life, although sometimes it's obvious some people have been luckier than others. It's still not going to do you any good thinking about whether you've been lucky or unlucky in life.

The big issue with focussing on variance is that you're worrying about something outside your control. Asking yourself whether you've been lucky or unlucky will only ever result in wasting energy on something you can't control.

The relevant questions you should be thinking about are things like did I play this hand well? If I didn't, where did I go wrong? How can I change this in the future? Do I consistently make certain errors in certain types of situations? How can I correct these?

Then, more generally looking at your poker career: you mentioned a group of friends who started at the same time as you and are now playing nl400 online or larger stakes than you live. What means they have achieved this and you haven't? Are you less intelligent or capable at poker than them, or is it something else? If it is something else, what is it? Is this something you are capable of replicating? Is this something you want to replicate?

Then, looking at your life in general: how do you think your life would've gone if you'd never played poker or gambled? How might your life have gone if when you dropped out of uni first time, you'd got a minimum wage job? How might your life have gone if you'd picked up one of the many skills another poster suggested, and got a decent paying but boring job? How might your life be going if you'd stuck with uni first time? Second time? Once you've compared these scenarios, maybe the way forward for you might be more obvious.

I don't know what it is, but at this stage, you don't seem to have much of an idea either. I think it will really help you if you can work through these types of questions for yourself, and answer them. It's a bit odd, because you're very open and candid with your posts, and with everyone reading this, but I think you struggle to be open and candid with yourself at times. There's nothing wrong with being in the situation you are, life happens, generally not as expected. And you can't change who you are, but you can influence who you'll become, so you really need to think about who you want to become.

In any case, best of luck, I'm going to switch back to lurking, posting is too tilting.
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02-11-2022 , 10:16 AM
6bm have you ever been on a legit 30bi downswing playing B game or better? Because what I see is someone that is either spewing off at 1/3 as you're tilted at losing 1-2bi or someone that moves up and degens. When you have a legit, prolonged downswing, I'll call it out for what it is. 3 betting random suited **** and barrelling it off does not count as a downswing.
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02-11-2022 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Why is it that whenever I run good, people in the thread are so quick to call it out. "You've been sunrunning" everyone says, when I run above EV.

But when the opposite happens, no one in the thread seems willing to admit that I've been running bad? No one has said "you're on a downswing 6bet me, hang in there and keep grinding! You'll dig your way out of the hole soon!

Instead, everyone says that the reason I'm broke is purely because of factors that were inside my control?

So what, if I lose it's my fault and I deserve it, but if I win it's just variance and I don't deserve it?
See this is where your ****ed in the head!

All these posts in this thread genuinely concerned with your mental well being after your last post cause we can all see where it's leading but your main concern is that we give you credit for running bad

At least when your wife dumps your ass after you lose all her money you'll maybe then see that your a loser, i mean that was your main argument for not being one, but right now everyone's giving you the advice to try and avoid that situation because we know it could/will cripple you mentally and it's not what we want to see from anyone.

But really get ****ed man as usual you know better even though every single time you've been proven wrong by your own actions.
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02-11-2022 , 10:21 AM
Playing 1/3 NL right now and this hand happens:

1/3 NL, 8-handed, $456 eff

UTG blind raises $6
UTG+1 calls $6
Hero calls $6 LJ with 22
HJ calls $6
CO calls $6
BTN calls $6
SB folds
BB calls $6

Flop ($38, 7ways) J52r

BB bets $16
UTG calls $16
UTG+1 folds
Hero raises to $60
Folds to BB
BB calls $60
UTG calls $60

Turn ($207, 3ways) J52J

BB checks
UTG checks
Hero bets $100
BB calls $100
UTG folds

River ($407, HU) J52J7

BB checks
Hero jams $290 all-in
BB snap calls $290

Spoiler:
Hero shows 22 (boat)
BB shows KJo (trips)
Hero scoops a $987 pot

I was sh*tting myself when I got snap called and BB picked up her cards ready to slam them down... But super happy with the result.
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02-11-2022 , 10:25 AM
Putting aside all the claims of gambling addiction, bad spending etc. you're just not good at poker. You're a hyper-aggro fish who bluffs in terrible spots, tries to win every pot, calls too many 3bets out of position with weak hands because you think you will outplay the sh*tregs postflop with your 96 suited when the SPR is 1. Fix those very obvious leaks in your game and you may get somewhere. But for now, you have no chance of succeeding long term.
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02-11-2022 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Advice For 6B
6B,

I was once infamous on this forum, around 15-20 years ago. I'm not going to reveal who I am, but I was very similar to you, and I would like to try to help you. I am now successful in life by all "traditional" measures and I hope you take the steps needed to improve your life as well. I have been very inactive in the poker world for 10+ years now, but a poker friend directed me to this thread.

This site, and poker, is toxic for you, and also the younger version of me. I am going to give you advice that no one else is going to give you -

1. Leave this thread and this site, and never come back. When I was younger, I cared way too much about what other people thought of me. I was very insecure. I tried to seek validation from internet strangers. Every active poster in this thread is a loser (you are also a loser by the way). Just live your own life and take steps each days to improve yourself. Stop caring so much about what other anonymous people think about you. They're all losers and many of them are bullying you. You are not their monkey and you are not obligated to entertain people here. So don't.

2. There are a few people in your life that truly matter. None of them are here. You shouldn't bad mouth your wife, your wife's family, your mom, etc. here. You shouldn't air out your dirty laundry, especially since it's so easy to find your true identity and your social media. I assume your wife doesn't know about this thread. Delete this thread if you can and work on yourself and on your marriage. I'm not saying you have martial issues, but I don't think it's a good look to be so public about the inner workings of your marriage.

Best of luck.
This here this is the best advice your going to get and this poster is actually spot on!
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02-11-2022 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me

So what, if I lose it's my fault and I deserve it, but if I win it's just variance and I don't deserve it?
When you are a terrible poker player yes exactly!. Mind blowing concept isnt it?


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This here this is the best advice your going to get and this poster is actually spot on!
lmao he is at the casino playing with a 3 bi life roll and people still bothering? lol! You muppets still don't get it..

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02-11-2022 , 10:55 AM
Stick to the 1/3 and 2/5 when it's soft @6.....make your money where it's the easiest. No need to bother with the whole "level up" mentality.
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02-11-2022 , 11:06 AM
At this point is pretty delusional to think this thread is anything but a complete fabrication by 6bet me.
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02-11-2022 , 11:10 AM
I find it shocking how many people in the poker community don't know at least a dozen 6bmes.
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02-11-2022 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
Putting aside all the claims of gambling addiction, bad spending etc. you're just not good at poker. You're a hyper-aggro fish who bluffs in terrible spots, tries to win every pot, calls too many 3bets out of position with weak hands because you think you will outplay the sh*tregs postflop with your 96 suited when the SPR is 1. Fix those very obvious leaks in your game and you may get somewhere. But for now, you have no chance of succeeding long term.
When did you play with him?
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