Ok, got it - that makes a lot more sense and not a very generous offer either!

That's a stupid proposition to take unless there's some whales at the table. Shouldn't have accepted the deal.

Yeah, that is not your "friend". He's preying on you. A complete scumbag. Stay far away from him.

OP, do you actually have any friends? You should get some as it would greatly improve your life having someone remind you when you're being an idiot.

He paid less than two rounds worth of blinds. That is almost nothing!

That's a stupid proposition to accept when your entire life roll is 2 buy-ins and you're not very good at poker. And buying in short so once you get all-in you're likely going to be close to flipping. And you're on monkey tilt. Etc.

1. most 1/3 players not involved enough in the game to spend time paying attention to the online poker community - if they do then it's most likely youtube/reddit/twitter not 2p2

2. most 1/3 players not thinking at any level beyond "what cards do i have, do i want to see a flop"

3. 1/3 is not appetizing enough to draw in predators to drop stakes, yes he'll get occasionally bumhunted but not at a rate of concern because higher games also have players that are even worse than 6bm, in fact, as bad as he is, i'd be shocked if he were ever the worst player at the table - he understands the game fairly well, just thinks he can outplay or bluff anyone on any board so tries to win every pot - his leak is entirely mental not skill based

4. his image is sealed by his play, you don't do this to anyone but the table mark

and of course the read of easily tilted table mark who can be goaded into a bad by targeting his pride is 100% accurate as as the table mark he obliges

6bm cultivates an image of a reckless lagtard, the entire table knows it and plays him accordingly, now it can be very profitable to exploit this image and shift gears because you'll get called down very light but he doesn't adapt so he's just playing high variance spewtard game and everyone is adapting and calling down light correctly

that's true, but if he plays 10/20 like he just did, he will be the mark and draw in predators.

yeah guy who knows your tight money and gets you to play higher stakes is a friend? What?

Rickroll,

Thanks for taking the time...I wish I had access to the live ss scene

Classic Doctor Phil.

Ops mum should dig it out and watch it.

There is a reason Op has been posting this stuff for 3+ years, and it has FA to do with poker.

(and yeah, there are reasons why folk still follow...and they have FA to do with poker either )

6bet- wondering about the blackjack hand, you mentioned that you put the final $125 chips in your pocket onto blackjack. What if you drew a 11 against 6- or found yourself in position to split- would you have bought in for more money in order to do this? Otherwise it would seem like a pretty big EV loss to not have the option to split/double.

Great work with minimizing your losses on what was a tough day mentally!

yeah i saw that one and was laughing to myself "ahh so that solves the '1/3 not a big enough game to hunt him at' issue"

dude is bumhunted and instead of realizing what happened he calls the guy "a friend"

classic 6bm mentality

I can't emphasize enough that NL2 is a significantly tougher field than 1/3 live, if you are a losing player online you can still beat 1/3 with ease imo

as you move up in stakes there are fewer casual players (ie that dentist who plays an home game 4x a year and thinks a hand like K9o is very strong could afford to sit down at 10/20 but prefers to donk away at 1/3 on the rare occasions he finds himself playing in a casino) but whales and lagtards who have their inner gambol degen exist in all ecosystems and are thus found at all stakes

just caught up on the last few pages and face palmed more times than I could count

Why are you STILL playing blackjack?

Why did you take a bet for the equivalent of 2.5bb at 10/20 to play for 2 hrs, which would be at least a few orbits, thus way more than the bet was even worth?

why are you 3betting 42s?

why did you send your "friend" your bankroll money that you would need to not bust your bankroll...for some bet???

My god....

I guess at this point we can truly say OP reached his peak. S4 delivering so far, just keep delivering OP.

OPs judgment is just horrendous, in every corner of his life. And oblivious to it all, which is the only reason why season 4 exists.

Every hand is relative to the strength of your opponent's hand.

Sometimes Ace high is a good hand. Sometimes a set is a bad hand.

In the Q7 hand on 887Q, given the action, I felt I was bluff catching at best.

The OMC raised tiny ($10), so I read that as a mediocre hand. I thought my 4bet will get through a decent amount, or if it gets called by the splashy businessman, I can take it down postflop with a small Cbet.

Yeah sometimes folding too much can be boring. But I'm training myself to be patient.

Online poker is definitely more mentally stimulating, but it's also tougher and more exhausting.

Jx

Thanks. I agree about no shame in taking a break if I'm overly tilted.

Well generally I don't cold call 3bets that often, so it's usually 4bet or fold. And my 4betting range depends entirely on villain. If a nitty OMC 3bets, I might just 4bet KK/AA and fold QQ, AK and worse pre.

I type up HHs whilst I'm at the table, between hands. Although sometimes I'll play multiple hands in a row and won't type up every single HH.

I basically did lock up my 1/3 win. I left the table with a 1.5k stack, sat on a new 1/3, then left that to play 5/10/20 with a $600 stack.

And I don't think you can play poker in such a rigid way. You need to be more fluid in your thinking. Not all 1/3 players play the same. You can still 4bet bluff a LAG reg at 1/3.

Yeah you might be able to beat 1/3 playing like gobbledygeek, but you're not going to make $30/hr like that.

Thanks man, I appreciate it.

Well I was at uni for the first half of 2021 and didn't gamble at all during that time. I only got back into PokerBros around July/August. Made a decent amount of money in that time, then downswung a bit, splurged a bit, deposited a bunch in my Transferwise account (which I later withdrew), played a bunch of chess to take a break, then got back into live poker after lockdown ended in my city (we had literally the longest lockdown in the world here).

And yeah I hope that posting here and staying accountable stops me from degening too hard.

Not sure if trolling? I tank if I have a tough decision to make, or if I'm trying to disguise the strength of my hand.

Thank you!

You're welcome to believe whatever you want. I made a lot more than 14k last year on the apps, and many people in this thread witnessed me as I was on a final table with over $50k up top.

The fact that he woke up with JJ in a straddled pot.

I was already a bit tilted prior to that hand happening. That was just the cherry on top.

Exactly.

Hmm you've got a good point there. This guy was like halfway between a regular old man and an OMC. It was hard to label him.

Thanks isolated, I'll try to remember that. I don't need to win every hand. It's not weak to surrender a pot.

Professionals aren't professional 100% of the time. We all slip up.

I will definitely try my best to control my tilt and frustration in the future, but it's hard sometimes.

I try not to bluff too often, but sometimes the spot just calls for it. I don't think you can win too much money at 1/3 if you literally never bluff (not even Cbet flops).

I'll try to avoid bluffing too much preflop though.

I actually thought my Ace high might be good there. And even if the Ace high wasn't good, I expected to have the best hand if I paired up my Ace or Queen.

I never expected to run into AA there and be drawing to literally 4 outs.

1. No one bumhunts at 1/3 NL
2. No one sees me as a whale. Even the people who are better than me (mostly 5/10/20 regs) aren't going to go out of their way to play with me, when there are easier targets.

You're right that I shouldn't be getting out of line with garbage like 42s. I do have a pretty good idea of opening ranges, but I'm not 100% sure on which hands to defend vs 3bets, so I usually make it up as I go. I think I might be overdefending vs 3bets.

Nah actually, against this specific player, if he had limp-reraised me UTG, I'd have folded my AQo. He played it well.

Sometimes I go on tilt and play hands badly, but I'm not doing this 100% of the time. There are plenty of hands I play well to balance this out.

Thank you.

Actually, it was the same guy that made the volume prop bet with me that also paid me $50 to sit at 5/10/20.

This is season 3.

I am doing my best to address my tilt and spewy players, and acknowledging it whenever it happens. I'm not perfect, but I'm working towards fixing my flaws.

And thank you. I hope you succeed too, especially if you share some of my traits.

I just grinded 60 hours in the past fortnight and you're saying I have no work ethic?

I just need to maintain what I've been doing for the past 2 weeks long-term (minus the tilt and table games) and I'll do well.

Nah he only paid me $50. Hence why I lost $550, instead of losing $600.

Yeah exactly.

I don't think it's fair to label someone as a "scumbag" or a "predator" just because they're trying to win EV. We're both poker players and we both want to win money off other people.

Besides, you could just as easily argue that I'm the predator here. I'm the one that took the volume prop bet, believing that I'm the favourite. And I'm the one that took his $50 and played as nitty as possible at 5/10/20, stacking off only when I had the best hand (QQ vs AJs).

I did everything I could to win money off him, and he did everything he could to win money off me. It's all fair game, the way I see it.

Daniel Negreanu and Phil Ivey are friends, despite the fact that each of them would gladly take a house off the other person.

At the end of the day, neither me nor my friend have done anything unethical. We both agreed to a prop bet and we've both honoured our ends of the bargain.

Yeah if I'd gotten a blackjack hand that required me to split or double, I'd have taken extra money out of my wallet to do that, even if it was only marginally +EV for me to do that (eg. Splitting 88 vs Ace). I'm glad that never happened.

And thank you! I try to remind myself that as bad as I was yesterday, it could've been so much worse. I'm proud of myself for walking away $80 down, instead of insisting on getting back to even.

We all make mistakes unfortunately. An alcoholic might slip up from time to time, but it's important that they keep trying and never give up.

The 42s hand was bad and the blackjack was bad. I acknowledge that, and I'll try my best not to do it again.

The 5/10/20 I don't think was terrible, because I effectively got to play with a $600 stack and it would only cost me $550.

As for the sending my friends money part: that's a different issue altogether. I had to pay upfront to secure the bet in the first place, which I believe is +EV and will help me put in more volume.

It's only season 3.

S1 was in 2018 when I played mostly live poker and took out a $20k loan. S2 was in 2020 when I played on the apps. Now it's S3.

And nah I'm not oblivious. I am open about all my mistakes, I post them here, acknowledge them, and I'm accountable for all of them.

Day 3 start

Once again, I got to the casino at 11:20am today and immediately got a seat at 12pm, as soon as the first poker tables opened up. But I'm doing things a little different this time...

I'm sitting at 2/5 NL and bought in for the minimum ($200). I think I'm less likely to get bored/tilted at bigger games like this with serious players and more money at stake.

And I always have the option of shifting back to a 1/3 NL table if the game isn't great or I'm not feeling 100%.

I'm 1.5hrs into the session and currently breakeven (in for $400, sitting on $400 stack). I got sucked out earlier KK vs JJ and had to rebuy, but won a few small-medium sized pots to win that money back.

So here goes...

Yes you binked some mtts, but then you vanished when you were down to your last 2k last December, but apparently you then ran it up from $400 to 15k? on apps without making a single post here and being awful at poker in general. How did you run it up so much?

Yeah,playing 2/5 on a 5k liferoll- great ****ing idea. Also min buying to increase the variance even more,world class decisionmaking.

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Here's the issue with that. In the first hand, you raised to $18 with T9 sooted with a $300 stack and the OMC 3bet to $100. You then tanked, so I assume you thought you had a decision, but there was no decision to make. Sure theoretically you could potentially 4bet bluff, but in reality there was no decision and the one decision that is definitely 100% mathematically incorrect is to call $82 and yet after tanking this was the decision you arrived at.

OMC's hardly 3bet at all, and you can comfortably just throw away all of your speculative hands knowing that they are never exploiting you.

Then after that hand, the OMC raised from the SB over 2 limpers and you decided to flat with ATo from the BB. This time you didn't tank, yet again came to the wrong decision. I'm not sure what range of hands you think OMC is raising out of the SB.

Buying in short reduces the variance.

No it doesent. Its a very common misunderstanding that it does.

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Playing on a short stack is def higher variance. That's partly why MTTs are higher variance than cash.

Hand 1: Too nitty?

2/5 NL, 7-handed, $750 eff

Fish limps $5 HJ
CO limps $5
Hero raises $30 BTN with AKss
Fish calls $30

Flop ($65, HU) Kh 6c 3s

Fish checks
Hero bets $20
Fish calls $20

Turn ($101) Kh 6c 3s Ts

Fish checks
Hero bets $65
Fish raises to $130
Hero calls $130

River ($357) Kh 6c 3s Ts Ad

Fish bets $200
Hero calls $200

Before looking at results, tell me what you think of this hand please.

The overwhelming majority of poker pros are pros 100% of the time. That's why they can afford to be pros. They don't jump to stakes outside their bankroll with 12% of their nw, play blackjack games for >2% of their nw because it's in their pocket, or play a stake higher because they can't play well at the stakes they should be playing because of entitlement and ga issues.

You're welcome Good luck today. Don't be an idiot.

Theoretically if everyone is playing properly, variance should increase with a short stack. However, typical live low stakes villains have no clue how to play vs short stacks. They flat when they should raise, they call when they aren't getting the right odds to draw, they call shoves drawing dead, they fold the best hand.

If he's buying in for $200 at 2/5 then he should be playing a higher variance style. However, this is greatly mitigated by villains playing terrible. Also, the absolute $ amount of the swings will be significantly less than if he bought in for say $1000. Certainly though, the swings will be far greater than if he just played a smaller game.

Just cashed out +$879 profit at 2/5 NL after 2h 25 mins. The game was soft and super +EV, but I had built up a 1.3k stack and just didn't feel comfortable playing with so much money at risk.

Currently eating a nice $20 casino lunch with free tea/drinks and then gonna go back to 1/3 NL after this.

Profit: $2780
Time Played: 64h 22m / 205h
Bankroll: $5700