Both in theory and as an exploit its a check in there imo, OTF we are raising a, lot of Qx and pps for value and villain is calling a lot of AK with the bdfd, so the A is very good foe his range. Vs that, checking a lot is a good move imo, and we want to check good hands also to not overfold the river.
As an exploit, A is a scary card and I expect the semifish to fold a lot ofhis KQ/kk/JJ in there, so we would be isolating ourselves vs AA/QQ/A6, the plan was to valuebet most rivers, but on this one a lot of his calling range OTF got the nuts and I expect semifish to trap at a high frequency in there, so by not valuebetting I lose value vs AK/KK, but I expect to get x/r a lot in there and dont get enough value from worse hands.
So much ****** here, where do I even start. Qx is not a raise on that flop in theory, and I'm sure you would never actually do that anyway because you are isolating yourself vs better hands. As an exploit its ok 200bb deep vs semi fish but still not the best line imo.
You then state that A is a good card for his range, which should mean its 100% exploit bet, yet you checked which is of course criminal 200bb deep vs anyone especially semi fish. You should be betting turn setting up river jam vs AQ/AK. You don't even know how to value bet trips vs fish, christ.
Tbh I wouldnt mind hitting a downswing, just wouldnt like to hit a major one that would send me back to 100z. Learning a lot atm at 200z.
I ve been playing low volume, this leak of not feeling well when winning is so bad. I dont feel I deserve all that money at all. Since I was a kid Ive never enjoyed winning as much as other kids. Some parents love to see their kids winning and being a super star of the game, my parents only went to school to take me out of detention lol. So I think that kind of stuff is probably the cause I dont like winning. My school would also gave medals for anyone who played the "school olympics", it wouldnt matter if you got in first or last.
Imo that kind of stuff is so bad for the development of a kid.
Tbh I wouldnt mind hitting a downswing, just wouldnt like to hit a major one that would send me back to 100z. Learning a lot atm at 200z.
I ve been playing low volume, this leak of not feeling well when winning is so bad. I dont feel I deserve all that money at all. Since I was a kid Ive never enjoyed winning as much as other kids. Some parents love to see their kids winning and being a super star of the game, my parents only went to school to take me out of detention lol. So I think that kind of stuff is probably the cause I dont like winning. My school would also gave medals for anyone who played the "school olympics", it wouldnt matter if you got in first or last.
Imo that kind of stuff is so bad for the development of a kid.
You seem quite humble actually, pretty annoying people are saying it on a heater even though you probably are, it’s nice to see you’re winning actually hope you keep Cushing and prove everyone wrong
I don't understand how someone being on a heater is a bad thing, it's funny here on 2p2 when microstakers see someone who's on a heater they say it's temporary and he's going bust after that, when someone's on a downswing they're not running bad, oh no they're just losing players
I don't understand how someone being on a heater is a bad thing, it's funny here on 2p2 when microstakers see someone who's on a heater they say it's temporary and he's going bust after that, when someone's on a downswing they're not running bad, oh no they're just losing players
can't win here, everybody lose
Yeah, people dont like seeing other people have success because they think that it reduces their own victories, like if we were on a race or something. Sure, its quite common to see people go on heaters post here and leave after a downswing, but that wont make you better(or look better).
A lot of people in poker think theyre way better than they are, just look at 25z where a lot of people curse each other in chat and say people are bad. Recently I saw the most absurd thing in a stream, the streamer had Clanty marked as a bad reg. Clanty has a lot to teach to that guy. One thing I do pretty well is to try to learn from my opponents, even if theyre marked as regfish. Most people arent humble enough to realize the good plays by their opponents, they just want to think theyre awesome and that the only reasom they lose is because of luck.
Btw, that leak is even more common in mtt regs, a lot of mtt guys join 50z/100z/200z and really think theyre winning. Theres one brazillian mtt reg that I respect a,lot that does the opposite: he plays 25z a,lot, while he made more than 1m online and plays 10k,mtts. When I quit poker he was playing a lot of 25z, 4 years later I saw him there and played a lot vs him and never seen him playing higher.
Its so insane to see a guy that realizes he should be playing 25z to learn 100bb poker(and 40bb too, he never reloads) even when the money is super small compared to his usual stakes. Then we see guys like mirage and tasttyy thinking theyre the best in the world, trolling benabadbeats thread, when he is probably one of the biggest winners in poker in todays games.
Btw, that leak is even more common in mtt regs, a lot of mtt guys join 50z/100z/200z and really think theyre winning. Theres one brazillian mtt reg that I respect a,lot that does the opposite: he plays 25z a,lot, while he made more than 1m online and plays 10k,mtts. When I quit poker he was playing a lot of 25z, 4 years later I saw him there and played a lot vs him and never seen him playing higher.
Its so insane to see a guy that realizes he should be playing 25z to learn 100bb poker(and 40bb too, he never reloads) even when the money is super small compared to his usual stakes. Then we see guys like mirage and tasttyy thinking theyre the best in the world, trolling benabadbeats thread, when he is probably one of the biggest winners in poker in todays games.
You know what Rapidesh, I've been following your thread from your first post but never felt the need to comment. I do follow many and don't comment at all. It's unbelievable, your attitude. Off late you seem to have developed the most thickest of skins especially whne it comes to mirages posts. You just seem to look at the strat part of his response and you respond back. Kudos to that bro. I'm of the firm belief that mirage is trolling and is prolly a really nice guy in person. But whatever that isn't the point. You've done pretty well. Have taken to feedback really well. And xeno last post sums up the attitude of most posters here quite nicely. Good luck mate! Officially subbing to what I think is gonna be a legendary thread.! In.
You know what Rapidesh, I've been following your thread from your first post but never felt the need to comment. I do follow many and don't comment at all. It's unbelievable, your attitude. Off late you seem to have developed the most thickest of skins especially whne it comes to mirages posts. You just seem to look at the strat part of his response and you respond back. Kudos to that bro. I'm of the firm belief that mirage is trolling and is prolly a really nice guy in person. But whatever that isn't the point. You've done pretty well. Have taken to feedback really well. And xeno last post sums up the attitude of most posters here quite nicely. Good luck mate! Officially subbing to what I think is gonna be a legendary thread.! In.
thanks, man!
Yeah, it's amazing to see how my view of poker changed since I started this thread, if you go back to the first posts, I used to be quite similar to how tasttyy and mirage are today. I was sunrunning at the time and thought I was very good, and when the downswing came, I did my best to improve rather than blaming luck.
Games were crazy tonight, g-zuz, probably ended up losing
Some hands
H1: Don't know if this is good, the problem here is that I don't have that many slowplays OTT, most of my good hands are betting, and a lot are check-raising turn for value vs that sizing. What do you think? flop cbet is quite bad too, I think it's better to check without a spade.
River:(15.89 BB, 2 players) A Hero checks, BB bets 10.15 BB, Hero raises to 92.06 BB and is all-in, BB calls 81.91 BB
Spoiler:
Hero shows 7 8 (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens)
(Pre 37%, Flop 13%, Turn 5%) BB shows A T (Full House, Aces full of Tens)
(Pre 63%, Flop 87%, Turn 95%) BB wins 198.63 BB
H2: vs weird reg, wtf should I do here? My thinking behind that was that his line was so weird that he had to be tilted(or have AA) lol. decided to call because of the equity of my backdoors
H5: vaaaamoooo! Should I just jam? I don't know how fish react to that, from my experience they're more likely to fold facing a jam, guy wasn't a whale, just a semifish
H7: Vs unknown(that was probably a fish), is my line ok here? I'm trying to maximize vs fish in those spots, something I'm not that good at doing, I'm so nitty that thought about folding after his min 3-bet lol. But after I raise flop, have to stack off vs him, right?
River:(75.67 BB, 2 players) A Hero checks, BTN bets 145.96 BB and is all-in, fold
BTN wins 74.3 BB
H9: vs straightforward nitty player, good fold? bet check bet lines are so underbluffed, but with the 33% we don't need to be good a lot. Do you think villain could be valuebetting TT/99? Thought that villain could be checking a lot of AK OTT too
H10: ´This guy probably jumped in the wrong zoom pool, maybe he clicked on 200z rather than on 2z haha, that's a typical nl2 hand from what I remember of those stakes lol. vaaaaaaamooo. Btw, I tanked for 20s before calling, I'm such a pussy lol
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, SB raises to 51.61 BB and is all-in, BB raises to 100.9 BB, Hero raises to 101.5 BB and is all-in, BB calls 0.6 BB
Flop:(254.61 BB, 3 players) 8 9 8
Turn:(254.61 BB, 3 players) 7
River:(254.61 BB, 3 players) J
BB shows 5 2 (One Pair, Eights)
Spoiler:
Main Pot [154.83 BB]: (Pre 19%, Flop 2%, Turn 7%)
Side Pot#1 [99.78 BB]: (Pre 21%, Flop 2%, Turn 10%)
Hero shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Eights)
Main Pot [154.83 BB]: (Pre 51%, Flop 78%, Turn 64%)
Side Pot#1 [99.78 BB]: (Pre 79%, Flop 98%, Turn 90%)
SB shows A Q (One Pair, Eights)
Main Pot [154.83 BB]: (Pre 30%, Flop 19%, Turn 29%)
I wasn't going to bother but there was too much awful there to resist.
H1. Another example of you turning a trivial turn fold, into stupidly bluffing off your stack into an uncapped range. big lolz.
H2. Another example of being totally clueless. I thought you study gto? fold weaker aces and call stronger ones. Simple. Instead you get owned by the whale. lolz.
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H3: vs reg, this was the most wtf spot I had recently, do you guys have any idea of how to play it? I decided to fold because villain was nitty
How about folding the f%#ken flop? Christ, sb leads bb calls and you decide to raise with air? That is so ******ed its almost hard to comprehend, you then call the 3bet? It seems your micro brain can't handle being donked and you go insane.
H4. I think the play by the reg is awful, so no surprise you have him tagged as a good reg. Your jam vs his range is pretty bad also.
H5. A great example of how unbalanced you are. You would jam your stupid bluffs there but don't jam the nuts. Pathetic.
H6. Your repping the flush then do that crappy river bet sizing? If your going to bluff then do it right and jam, as played awful. Flop is a xc or bet, xr is crap with that hand.
You can play it as triple barrel or turn give up. Flop bet is super standard solid bet. Turn I think you just go wrong with calling this handstrenght here it probably loses as its pretty hard to imagine people to have a wide enough bluffing range with that betsize. River you rep air.
Rapi mah man. Are you trying to punish yourself for running good?
h1. wtfm8
h2. you didn't call the 4bet to stack off vs 0 bluffs. The backdoors add like 4% equity, which isn't enough. You were the one tilted.
h3. floating donk is fine. If you do bluffraise his donk make it smaller, once you get 3bet by an initially polarized range now leaning toward the nutted end of the spectrum realize it's game over.
h4. When in position I dont know why you are just getting it in hoping for a flip when you can play the pot in position and realize more ev on average. You have to call 13ishbb to fight for 51bb. You can improve to the winning hand or pick up outs on almost any turn card
Since you rarely have fold equity. Idk wtf the reg is doing either. You 3bet vs UTG and he should be drawing dead or flipping vs your exact hand LUL. Both you guys were on some 30bb spin n go ish. Atleast your decision is roughly breakeven vs his actual range since obviously hes capable of spew.
H5. when someone full pots into you and they are not a good player they are usually not folding. Tho I can see people calling a bit less if you straight up jam.
h6. You could be barrelling into the nutflush draw or a set. I think this is spew on the flop. If you are checkraising backdkr draws at least make sure its nutted. The king doesnt block any hand except KQs, at least As would block AJ and ATs and AQs Once you pick up equity you are forced to vamo against a fairly strong range. Once he calls turn just accept the facts, at least with As you could overbet turn jam river and villain could find a fold on most rivers.
h7. Villain is 50bb deep seems fine tho idk wf hes doing.
h8. Could be more polarized in bb but I like the barrells and the fold tho
h9. Id put him on JJ-QQ more often than 99-TT but you have to call.
H1 your incentives are pretty obvious to c/jam and you rep too little for Ax to want to fold, Id imagine its bad to overbluff here, its just too obvious.
H3 seems fine but also folding to bb 3bet seems great
Last edited by pokerforumposter; 06-10-2018 at 06:39 AM.
oh I forgot H9. Obviously have to call there. Pathetic fold. I must admit I am being too hard on rapidesh. I actually think he deserves a lot of credit and appreciation for such a positive and inspirational thread, and proving you can still grind it up and win at Poker in 2018 despite being utterly terrible. So credit where credit is due, don't ever say I'm never positive.