Coolered a ton of people today, meh, hate when it happens. Running really well. Also I decided to play mostly on 50z because the pool was insanely softer than 100z today.
Some hands
H1: not much strat about this one, it's amazing to see how can a 19/17 guy end up making such a loose call OTR
H2: Not much strat on this neither, vs a 19/15 nit reg, plays like this show how profitable it is to play your ranges well on different board textures, he just couldn't believe I was checking any good made hand there. His bet sizing is really bad, right? Not that bad considering he is super tight, but for a normal person we should bet 33%-50% there OTF, right? Or is it a good strat to make a 80% bet+ and jam turns to apply max pressure?
H3: vs 56 vpip fish I had 10 hands on, I usually don't make calls like this, but I remembered I saw a video from nick howard talking about "volatile players"(he probably meant aggrotards) and that even though this is the worst river possible, players like that don't usually bluff with equity, they have a ton of random no-equity ranges there, which makes us more inclined to call since it's a scary river and he will be more likely to bet. Is it ok?
H4: Vs fish, I think I was missing so much value by not donking the river in those spots, checking and villain checking back afraid of the flush. Learned this kind of play with fish lol, it's insanely bad vs good players but I think plays like this are more important for our winrates than some GTO strats in reg vs reg spots(in 50z-100z imo). Btw, on paired rivers even with the flush I would probably have x/f vs a big bet, guy was really passive and I was 100% sure he had JJ.
Hero shows 6 A (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 5%, Turn 18%) UTG mucks K K (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 68%, Flop 95%, Turn 82%) Hero wins 118.04 BB
H5: vs reg from the 16z times, he is 4-betting light and probably views me as a spewtard, Should I jam the turn for value? Thought it was kinda thin, but I'm pretty sure he is floating the flop quite wide, so thought about denying equity from overcards+fd.
fold, fold, CO raises to 2.54 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, CO raises to 22 BB, Hero calls 14 BB
Flop:(45.5 BB, 2 players) J 2 5 CO checks, Hero bets 14.3 BB, CO calls 14.3 BB
Turn:(74.1 BB, 2 players) 8 CO checks, Hero checks
River:(74.1 BB, 2 players) 9 CO checks, Hero checks
Spoiler:
CO shows T T (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 61%, Flop 9%, Turn 23%) Hero shows J T (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 39%, Flop 91%, Turn 77%) Hero wins 70.4 BB
H6: vs guy I had a low sample on, but he had a low fold to flop cbet. When a player isn't folding a ton vs cbets, it means his donks are probably weak, so that's what I tend to do vs fish with those stats. OTT is quite std. Now is it good my play OTR? Should I expect enough folds from fish there to be profitable? The thing is that there are a lot of different kinds of fish, some out there float really hard OTF/OTT but fold a lot to river jams. I went with my blockers there because I thought he could have only TP/midpair type of hands and some random 2-pairs. He could be calling the flop with a BDFD and the turn with a FD too, but it's probably rare, and I block some of his flushes.
Open is very loose pre, but the players behind were very nitty.
River:(64.68 BB, 2 players) 8
SB checks, Hero bets 166.72 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 61.44 BB
H7: vs very tight fish with high fold to cbet/turn cbet, is it good my sizing OTT? I think that he would almost never have the discipline to call a FD OTF to fold OTT, so went with that explo sizing. Is it a good jam overbet OTR vs this player type or should I bet smaller?(like 75%). Am I only getting called by better vs a fold happy player? I usually overdo in spots like this, meh.
River:(49.2 BB, 2 players) 6
SB checks, Hero bets 108.84 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 46.74 BB
H8: another one of those explo plays vs fish, on those 4 to straight boards I'm using a smaller sizing because it becomes obvious when I make it big(if with a 33% sizing it isn't obvious enough lol).
H3. I doubt Nick Howard is flatting A3 sb vs co like a fish.
H4. They are less scared about bd flushes. He should bet his sets most of the time there. I would xj.
H5. Jam turn, checking is just trying to give him money.
H6. KTo utg is lolz, regardless of how you try and justify it. You then decide to try and bluff off 130bb, possibly right into the nuts, when the hand should have been an easy flop fold. I assume you got angry because sb dared to donk into you, which is why you tried to bluff off your stack?
H7, you say hes very tight then decide to 2x jam the river.
You are playing 50/100nl and seem to have no positional awareness in regards to pre flop ranges.
Hey OP. I've been reading your blog for some time now, pretty entertaining to say the least. You prob know who I am given the nick.
Having studied exploitative strategy extensively, I should say you could be doing much better if you just stopped trying to justify plays after you make them, and instead just looked for the incentive before you make them. But real, proven incentive by data points, not made up stories that sometimes our mind tells us just because we want to be aggressive. I've been down that path and it's just not worth it.
You don't need to care about my opinion, but you seem to be a dedicated person with whom should be worth networking, specially as a Brazilian mate. So if you want to exchange some ideas, send PM
"Coolered a ton of people today, hate it when that happens"
Course you do.
I'm not in this game only for the money, I feel really bad when I cooler people, prefer winning money by outplaying them or when they make very bad plays.
I hate when people cooler me too lol. I would be happier if I didn't cooler people and they wouldn't cooler me lol. Sad that this isn't like poker ever haha
H3. I doubt Nick Howard is flatting A3 sb vs co like a fish.
H4. They are less scared about bd flushes. He should bet his sets most of the time there. I would xj.
H5. Jam turn, checking is just trying to give him money.
H6. KTo utg is lolz, regardless of how you try and justify it. You then decide to try and bluff off 130bb, possibly right into the nuts, when the hand should have been an easy flop fold. I assume you got angry because sb dared to donk into you, which is why you tried to bluff off your stack?
H7, you say hes very tight then decide to 2x jam the river.
You are playing 50/100nl and seem to have no positional awareness in regards to pre flop ranges.
H2: If you play like a nit, usually the other nit won't make horrendous plays like that, now if you tilt the nit, man, things will go crazy lol.
H3: with solid players in the blinds and opening from the CO, it's a 3-bet or fold, we can get squeezed pretty often, sizing is big, making the call less attractive and rake is very high. But with a whale on the blinds, I have to get involved with that player, specially with a hand that can flop top pairs, straights and the nut flush.
H5: it's thin even for me, I think jamming was the best play because the guy is a 16z reg, in 16z there's no fold equity ever, I've seen people calling a ton of really bad hands on spots like that. Didn't have the balls to do so, but whatever, decent play.
H6: if people won't punish you for opening KTo from UTG, then it's a fine play, if there are 3 guys IP with 3% 3-bet each, I'm less scared of that than by being at the CO with a good reg in the BTN with 15% re-steal. I'm basically in the CO vs a nit reg in the BTN there with the KTo hand. Blackrain79 had a really interesting concept about nits "think about them as empty seats".
Sometimes positional awareness isn't static, man. You gotta shape your ranges to fight better against the opposition you're playing against. In 50z I'm not opening KTo from UTG always, actually it's very rare when I do that, only if the line ups are perfect for loose opens. If there's a single competent player IP vs me(or in the BB+SB), I'm not opening that. In 50z I'm trying to achieve the highest winrate possible by forcing that pressure on the blinds. Since I'm now trying to beat 100z and I have a bigger bankroll, I can force more those higher variance plays and try to get better at exploiting the pool.
Hey OP. I've been reading your blog for some time now, pretty entertaining to say the least. You prob know who I am given the nick.
Having studied exploitative strategy extensively, I should say you could be doing much better if you just stopped trying to justify plays after you make them, and instead just looked for the incentive before you make them. But real, proven incentive by data points, not made up stories that sometimes our mind tells us just because we want to be aggressive. I've been down that path and it's just not worth it.
You don't need to care about my opinion, but you seem to be a dedicated person with whom should be worth networking, specially as a Brazilian mate. So if you want to exchange some ideas, send PM
Gl and I hope you succeed!
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Good to see you here, man.
Just quit posting in that brazillian forum and post your analysis here, would like to see your opinion on some hands I post here.
Another fan of nick howard, I see. I like his ideas, but he basically repeats his terms all the time, like "mass database analysis and looking for datapoints, hotspots" lol. He is probably one of the best coaches in the world, but his analysis is useful mostly for anonymous pools.
can you PM me with your skype name?
If I remember it well, you've called some river check-raises vs me, right? Some pages ago when I check-jammed for 2x pot and you had like midpair top kicker with AJ or something?
I'm not in this game only for the money, I feel really bad when I cooler people, prefer winning money by outplaying them or when they make very bad plays.
I hate when people cooler me too lol. I would be happier if I didn't cooler people and they wouldn't cooler me lol. Sad that this isn't like poker ever haha
I think this might be why you have a harder time controlling spew than some people, on some level you dont view long term overall game as skill, your mindset is stuck believing that pulling off the crispiest plays from time to time is how you win. Have you tried adding up your spews? It really is a good way to get out of that thinking.
I think this might be why you have a harder time controlling spew than some people, on some level you dont view long term overall game as skill, your mindset is stuck believing that pulling off the crispiest plays from time to time is how you win. Have you tried adding up your spews? It really is a good way to get out of that thinking.
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I'm basically not spewing anymore, making a ton of disciplined plays, specially since I've stopped looking at the results.
Only hand I would debate is hand 8 sizing on the river when we bink the straight, 3/4 better than 1/3 imo.
Hand 6 is debatable as well but probably good, getting him off missed wheel draw and obv a Jx is a great result. Flop is decent enough with this equity of 2 overs vs a weak pair and back door
I thought you were Brazilian but your English is perfect so figured I must be wrong!
WRT KTo open, how much of a sample do you have on the villains behind you to decide it’s an ok open? 50z pool is pretty big so can imagine sample sizes are pretty small.
Another fan of nick howard, I see. I like his ideas, but he basically repeats his terms all the time, like "mass database analysis and looking for datapoints, hotspots" lol. He is probably one of the best coaches in the world, but his analysis is useful mostly for anonymous pools.
If I remember it well, you've called some river check-raises vs me, right? Some pages ago when I check-jammed for 2x pot and you had like midpair top kicker with AJ or something?
I strongly disagree with that. I actually think the exact opposite. Reason being that at an anonymous pool you exploit the average player, which is far from highest EV if you actually knew the player type. On zoom pools like stars you can gather much more accurate information about your opponent and therefore maximally exploit him with much more confidence. Not to mention you can gather much more data from datamined hands compared to smaller sites.
But lets take this talk to Skype before the GTO police comes.
And yeah, pretty sure I made some some calls vs you. Kinda easy tho after reading your thread haha
And it came really fast haha not gonna start a useless debate here mate, lets keep OP's thread entertaining as it is
if we ever want to move up to anything above 200z, we will have to study a ton of GTO.
You and I would probably be destroyed pretty hard at 500z, the difference in levels is so high that we can't even have an idea of how big it is.
But right now, it makes most sense to focus on explo and trying to achieve the biggest winrate we can in the stakes we play. But the day will come(I hope) that we will have to focus pretty hard on GTO so we don't get crushed against very tough competition.
The thing is you won't win more by trying to exploit the regs in your pool than by playing a fairly balanced strategy against those same reg (unless you see some glaring leaks)
H5 is not even close to a turn jam, not. even. close.
Nice reasoning.
Villain 4bet pre then xc that flop with what hand that is ahead of us? I would say nothing. On turn, pot is 74bb, we have 63bb behind, with the best hand the majority of the time, but vulnerable, so why would you check and only give free equity?
Ever folding on a brick river with those pot odds? Villain calls turn jam very wide with any overcards +fd, 99h, TTh, and if he folds great. If you are flatting 4bets with that hand you have to expect to go broke on that board, not play it scared.
H2: was float OTF ok? I feel villain isn't good enough to valuebet weak Ax OTF, but competent enough to bluff all the time with his backdoor draws OTF. Is this a good hand to float? wp OTT/OTR?
BTN shows 4 A (One Pair, Threes)
(Pre 56%, Flop 73%, Turn 86%) Hero shows K T (Two Pair, Kings and Threes)
(Pre 44%, Flop 27%, Turn 14%) Hero wins 51.48 BB
H6: after his min-raise I'm sure I'm beat a ton of the time, but he will have to call with his draws/random things that he is raising turn with. Vs unknown, good line? Is there any merit to call and fold most rivers?