2, 5, 6 and 7 seem like bad folds. Maybe I'm just a station. I respect your game and thought process but it seems like you get too tricky. Just imo.
H5 is probably a bad fold, h2 is just an easy fold, if he is a whale he will have some gutshots, but regs/nitfish won't attack that board lightly mw vs an unknown
I mean generally when I see 'unknown' written it seems really likely that they're a fish since you've played a decent amount of volume/should have hands with most regs
fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, CO raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 25 BB, CO raises to 123.52 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 88.24 BB and is all-in
Flop:(227.98 BB, 2 players) Q 6 Q
Turn:(227.98 BB, 2 players) 5
River:(227.98 BB, 2 players) K
Spoiler:
Hero shows K K (Full House, Kings full of Queens)
(Pre 18%, Flop 12%, Turn 5%) CO shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
(Pre 82%, Flop 88%, Turn 95%) Hero wins 223.98 BB
Hero raises to 2.32 BB, MP calls 2.32 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.32 BB, SB raises to 13.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 101.74 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, SB calls 88.24 BB
Flop:(209.12 BB, 2 players) 2 3 T
Turn:(209.12 BB, 2 players) K
River:(209.12 BB, 2 players) 3
Spoiler:
SB shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Threes)
(Pre 83%, Flop 92%, Turn 5%) Hero shows K K (Full House, Kings full of Threes)
(Pre 17%, Flop 8%, Turn 95%) Hero wins 205.12 BB
Turn:(38.92 BB, 2 players) A
SB bets 20 BB, Hero raises to 81.24 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 74.98 BB
H5: I already knew that it could be a better idea to go smaller OTT and OTR exploitatively, but just went with my regular sizings in that spot, after he started tanking the river I knew he was going to make some sort of a spewy call, but didn't expect that.
What these guys don't understand is that if they're not folding 88 in there, wtf are they folding? If they're calling 90% of their range blindly then how can I gain EV by having bluffs in my range?
Sure that 88 is a better call than some pairs blocking Kh/Qh in there, but I'm not sure if he knows that lol.
h1,h2,h3,h5 super standar to me .
h4 is interesting but i dont get that much the raise, if u decide to have a bluff range in that spot i will use something with more equity, and when he bet is pretty polar i think he had the ace , the sets and the low draws that are behind u
h1: I think just fold flop. I'm not sure if you see fish XR gut-shots there, and always possible he has AK/AQ
h4: is very weird
h5: his 88 play is some next level 50z ****. Probably the reason why you can print non-stop at that limit
Why are you bluffing a turn that is much better for Villain's range?
If they are 3-betting 30% and cbetting every flop and bluffing that turn very often (even with sdv) and not calling his spazz midpairs, my play is printing. Whales love overbluffing ott and I can't call because some of his vluffs beat me and he will ship the river very often I think, so calling 3 barrels wont be better than shipping or folding.
Also I got my suicide 9% equity and block his calls lol
Got smashed today, didn't play my best too. It's so hard playing well when you get owned =(
Some hands
H1: vs reg that I had a note saying: "overdefends OTT" tbh his sizing looks insanely nutted, specially on that texture. I think he just ships his draws too, gave him too much credit for having ranges in that spot. Should I fold this?
fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 4.5 BB
Flop:(15.5 BB, 2 players) 8 A T MP checks, Hero bets 3.68 BB, MP calls 3.68 BB
Turn:(22.86 BB, 2 players) K MP checks, Hero bets 16.29 BB, MP raises to 40 BB, Hero raises to 125.68 BB and is all-in, MP calls 52.91 BB and is all-in
Spoiler:
River:(208.68 BB, 2 players) 9 Players agreed to run it twice.
Hero shows T A (Two Pair, Aces and Tens)
Board #1 (Pre 60%, Flop 70%, Turn 9%)
(Two Pair, Aces and Tens)
Board #2 (Pre 60%, Flop 73%, Turn 9%)
MP wins 103.66 BB MP wins 103.65 BB
H2: spew by me, and I've done that **** a lot. In my defense I haven't studied much BB vs SB in a 3bp, I will focus more on that soon. Also I think a lot of regs overbluff OTT and don't valuebet AK, I know that my hand is pretty much a call and never a shove, specially with the As, but I still decided to jam because:
-It's easier to play, just click a button and if the guy is overdoing/not valuebetting as thin as he should he will get owned
-Some of the EV I get by x/c the turn will come from villain's give ups OTR, so if he is overdoing OTR and I'm folding this, then my hand is losing a lot vs his strat
-I could see myself getting called by worse here(hard with the As, but possible)
H5: vs best reg of 100z imo, had to take a break after this one lol, insane to see that he checked in there, but he is right, checking JJ always and jamming AJ/JT/JQ/JK looks like a good way to balance his bets and checks because by having 2 jacks in our hand, we increase the chances of villain having a bluff. I almost checked this back btw, underestimated him lol
H7: vs unknown. I know AA is a check, but vs fish I prefer betting and getting value, those guys love overcalling their PPs when the Kx doubles and won't stab much. Vs regs a good simplification would be to check a lot of our range on the turn, right?
Pls stop betting 1/4th pot on these textures in 3b pot
h7 "but vs fish I prefer betting and getting value"
Just play your hand in a vacuum and bet big (also note: not going too small on K86 FD and def not going small on AT8 either)
I think the only somewhat reasonable is H6 to an extent
Why is betting small in those textures a mistake? I've seen some good regs range(I think) cbet small even on J95 boards and OOP.
Vs fish I like the small sizing even more exploitatively, because they spazz out more often vs small bets and on those textures some fish fold a lot vs the bigger sizing and call more PPs/random 0 equity hands. Sure that we lose value/protection vs their FDs, but those have the odds to draw at least otf anyways.
Rapid, you just have too many FPS plays. You keep talking about being balanced/GTO and what not, but do you ever compare your plays to PIO or even what you think a balanced reg would play? Your spew is all over the place and that's probably one very big reason why you keep getting wrecked at 100z/200z.
H5 sure he may be the best reg at 100z but once he checks flop (and he should at a good freq with JJ), the rest of the hand is standard. Really don't see why you dont give credit to a good reg having Jx there. Any good reg who understands ranges would have a good amount of Jx there.
H6 like what is this? I don't even need to look at PIO to know that this is just complete spew and not GTO approved. River is like absolute nutworst to bluff and you actually win at showdown a decent amount. You're IP so just check. People seriously don't float wide enough OOP.
You keep complaining that people just spaz out all the time and own you. But if you stick to a solid strat, it doesn't matter wtf the other regs are doing. Long-term you will crush, and if you make minor adjustments based on their stats/HUDs/tendencies to crush even more. It doesn't matter if you get owned in some random spots on a daily basis. That's just poker. If you play extremely solid, money will keep flowing in regardless of how many times you got bluffed or "spazzed" against. It's part of the game. If you never folded the winner/rarely got bluffed off the best hand, you're doing it wrong.
You're taking exploitative lines too far based on little information and just spazzing all over the place. Your overbet shoves seem to be costing you a lot of money too.
H1 no reg is ever bluffing here with that sizing, it's always QJ/two pair/set. Just call turn, or possibly fold vs that lol 100% unbalanced line. Like you basically never have the best hand here, and you're basically calling in hopes of catching a full house. Shoving, especially IP.......? I don't get it.
H2 literally makes no sense. You block As, he has a ton of nutted hands here, and you are risking a lot to win not so much.
I salute your indefatigability OP. You seem to get a lot of hate and I don't really get why. Good updates, but yeah I'd just try play a bit more solid/ABC. You seem to be making pretty big assumptions about people's ranges (e.g. H2)
Yeah OP is completely undeserving of the hate, he has way more heart than most of you guys and probably understands the game better too.
Just stop popping off imo Rapi though, seems like more often than not your wrong and these super niche aggro lines don't add much EV at 100nl at the best of times, and a ton more variance. You will be wrecking the population in the lines you understand, so implement, study, refine, implement, repeat. Pay attention to showdowns, and deviate where you are sure (through a combination of showdowns, population research, and PIO work on how to adjust).
At the end of the session reflect and if you have achieved that you will know you are on the path to long term success.
Yeah OP is completely undeserving of the hate, he has way more heart than most of you guys and probably understands the game better too.
Just stop popping off imo Rapi though, seems like more often than not your wrong and these super niche aggro lines don't add much EV at 100nl at the best of times, and a ton more variance. You will be wrecking the population in the lines you understand, so implement, study, refine, implement, repeat. Pay attention to showdowns, and deviate where you are sure (through a combination of showdowns, population research, and PIO work on how to adjust).
At the end of the session reflect and if you have achieved that you will know you are on the path to long term success.
If you want to call tough love or bluntly honest advice hate, go ahead. If you want to be an angel and try to hold his hand, be my guest.
I have never hated on Rapid or made any personal attacks on him. but it’s really tilting to see him say some of the stuff he says and hardly learn from his mistakes. I enjoy reading his thread, seeing him improve, and I do want him to succeed. I respect Rapid for the amount of heart he has and how much hate he has tolerated, eg Mirage lmao. And other trolls who are clearly toxic.
I think he was referring to the GarbageReg. Even if Rapid makes mistakes, this is a very instructive thread because of the honest advice he gets. But yeah, would be better without the toxic trolls.
Yeah OP is completely undeserving of the hate, he has way more heart than most of you guys and probably understands the game better too.
Just stop popping off imo Rapi though, seems like more often than not your wrong and these super niche aggro lines don't add much EV at 100nl at the best of times, and a ton more variance. You will be wrecking the population in the lines you understand, so implement, study, refine, implement, repeat. Pay attention to showdowns, and deviate where you are sure (through a combination of showdowns, population research, and PIO work on how to adjust).
At the end of the session reflect and if you have achieved that you will know you are on the path to long term success.
Thanks for the advice!
Yeah, I've been overdoing a lot lately and I think one of the reasons for that is that I'm testing some spazz monkey tactics finland told me long time ago. It's very hard to stay solid while doing some of the **** he does. I think if it weren't for that factor, at least H6 would have been a x back ott and maybe I could have folded H1.
You are right, I go overboard with my plays and 100z people (specially the regs) are waiting for me to make a spewy play, it's better to just quit fighting in those gray area spots where I have 0 clue if I'm right or not.
And even if those plays are breakeven, my roll isn't big enough to resist the variance, also I have a history with tilt, so less variance is way better for me. Poker is just so hard sometimes, I feel like I'm a bomb that can explode at any moment and start spazzing out like crazy no matter how many sessions of solid poker I put in a row.
Rapid - you always mention how you bet certain (usually small) sizings so that whales spazz out against them.
In my experience, value vs bad players comes from their inability to fold their (worse) range, as opposed to a propensity for bluffing or “spazzing”. They will basically call any size with a lot of their range in a lot of different spots. Since the exploit is to bet the max in these spots, it’s more often than not a mistake to not bet rather large on wet textures vs them.
Another part of it is that in 6 max we don’t really get enough hands vs whales in order to have to change our strategy or to go for more optimal lines (they would take forever to learn anyways, but that’s besides the point). So, the best way to approach it is by thinking what’s the max I can get from this whale in this hand, which is usually just getting big. You want to play as exploitatively as possible in these situations, if you are going for value and they are calling, you want to do whatever you can get away with - 6bbs pre, 9/10 on flop, 9/10 on turn, and 9/10 on river. You don’t even have to balance it with bluffs. Just smthg to think about
finland has never studied a day in his life, he still is using the trial and error approach which is not too terrible but most definitely the laziest form of learning
finland has never studied a day in his life, he still is using the trial and error approach which is not too terrible but most definitely the laziest form of learning
I know that, but vs fish/whales his knowledge is way more valuable than PIO, he knows what they are actually doing in some spots, if we know how some players are playing exactly we can soul read them a lot.
Obv I would be crazy to make the plays he makes vs anyone remotely competent
I know that, but vs fish/whales his knowledge is way more valuable than PIO, he knows what they are actually doing in some spots, if we know how some players are playing exactly we can soul read them a lot.
Obv I would be crazy to make the plays he makes vs anyone remotely competent
Having a baseline understanding of our strategy, usually formed through working with solvers, and deviating off that strategy based on our opponents tendencies is going to crush fish more than random button clicking.
Pretty sure Xeno and Bena and any good reg our going to play there hand in vacuum and take the line that just makes the most money vs specific fish etc.