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04-01-2019 , 01:09 AM
h1 spew? the 3bet or the jam?
04-01-2019 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
h1 spew? the 3bet or the jam?
I think the jam is decent if I think the guy is overdoing with his 4-bets. Tbh I think it was ok vs that guy, people at 100z click so much and they always think I'm a crazy person that they go a little overboard with that, I already had him marked as "4-bet light?"

The 3-bet is not recommended by monker but in practice I prefer A2-A5 than A6-A8, the extra gutshot playability overrealizes vs humans over the higher kicker value because most people don't valuebet very thin with A5-A9 when they have TPWK.
04-01-2019 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by baannii4
h1 spew
h2 wp
h3 pre close, depends on v im guessing it's a fold in ur pool. post is definitely spew he doesn't have as many bluffs as u think
h4 making exaggerated assumption about v to justify a call because u want to gamble. just because he jammed 2 hands in a row doesn't mean he's jamming any 2.
h5 x'ing flop to be tricky so that u can misplay turn by raising instead of calling. wp river
h6 4b pre, raise flop, jam turn, river wp although v almost definitely ******ed for folding anything
h7 against 2 confirmed donkeys behind definitely sizing up flop
h8 bad fold
h9 wp
H8 is an absolute turbo muck. H5 can check sometimes vs v's with aggressive c/r tendency but mostly would bet, i dont mind your turn raise.

QTo call off is really only spew, and A3s hand is completely villain dependent.

Think that hand is you over adjusting/ using receny bias to justify some plays. I think you're getting better though which is really what it's all about (and making some sweet $$$)
04-01-2019 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by baannii4
h1 spew
h2 wp
h3 pre close, depends on v im guessing it's a fold in ur pool. post is definitely spew he doesn't have as many bluffs as u think
h4 making exaggerated assumption about v to justify a call because u want to gamble. just because he jammed 2 hands in a row doesn't mean he's jamming any 2.
h5 x'ing flop to be tricky so that u can misplay turn by raising instead of calling. wp river
h6 4b pre, raise flop, jam turn, river wp although v almost definitely ******ed for folding anything
h7 against 2 confirmed donkeys behind definitely sizing up flop
h8 bad fold
h9 wp
H5: gotta have some KT x back flop and that combo is good for that, ott we have a lot of 9x, so what other better hands would we have to bluff with if we're not x thos back otf?

H6: lol at 4-betting JJ pre mp vs CO, vs some guys in the pool it's fine, vs most it's a call. About raise otf I agree, but I haven't studied that board in pio yet.

H8 gotta fold, these guys slowplay 88/KJ/KQ otf and their bluffs got there, not sure if he has that many Kx we beat too
04-01-2019 , 01:54 AM
idno rapidesh's preflop strat but if he's jamming a3s it's safe to assume he's also jamming a4s/a5s. 90% of people are under 4betting this spot so he's way overdoing it.

h5 i feel like we're ahead of enough hands to call esp when he chooses this size. we also don't get to raise this turn a lot so im sure we can find hands with less showdown

h6 i think ur overestimating how bad 4betting here is with JJ. there's a lot of merit to even playing a 4b/fold only strat in this spot

h8 idno. like we lose to 6 combos? 88/KJ. passive bad guy also might not size like this with these hands so i remove like half of them. not folding here. maybe i'm leaking in this spot i guess

Last edited by baannii4; 04-01-2019 at 02:01 AM.
04-01-2019 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by baannii4
90% of people are under 4betting this spot so he's way overdoing it.
You think most people under 4bet BTN vs BB??? I beg to differ.
04-01-2019 , 06:13 AM
Shortstacker itt
04-01-2019 , 06:28 AM
Nice results Rapid! The only spew is h3. H6 is a raise on the flop vs this size.
04-01-2019 , 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BornToRun
Shortstacker itt
Sue me.
04-01-2019 , 06:30 AM
Vamo the legend is back. Nice results so far
04-01-2019 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bbissick
H8 is an absolute turbo muck. H5 can check sometimes vs v's with aggressive c/r tendency but mostly would bet, i dont mind your turn raise.

QTo call off is really only spew, and A3s hand is completely villain dependent.

Think that hand is you over adjusting/ using receny bias to justify some plays. I think you're getting better though which is really what it's all about (and making some sweet $$$)
Thanks, man!!
Gonna keep doing my best!
Vaaaamoooo
04-01-2019 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bbissick
H8 is an absolute turbo muck. H5 can check sometimes vs v's with aggressive c/r tendency but mostly would bet, i dont mind your turn raise.

QTo call off is really only spew, and A3s hand is completely villain dependent.

Think that hand is you over adjusting/ using receny bias to justify some plays. I think you're getting better though which is really what it's all about (and making some sweet $$$)
H8 isn't a turbo muck. It's more of a "think about it then sigh fold" muck. You do beat some hands. Q on the river ruins things somewhat. H5 should be a river check, Q of diamonds is one of the worst cards in the deck there and difficult to get called by worse. I agree H4 is a total spew call and H3 is just spew in general on all streets. Also $3k in 3 months is "sweet $$$"? That's less than minimum wage in western countries. Perhaps it's sweet $$$ in Brazil, not sure about wages there.

Last edited by SpinMeRightRound; 04-01-2019 at 09:13 AM.
04-01-2019 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by baannii4
idno rapidesh's preflop strat but if he's jamming a3s it's safe to assume he's also jamming a4s/a5s. 90% of people are under 4betting this spot so he's way overdoing it.

h5 i feel like we're ahead of enough hands to call esp when he chooses this size. we also don't get to raise this turn a lot so im sure we can find hands with less showdown

h6 i think ur overestimating how bad 4betting here is with JJ. there's a lot of merit to even playing a 4b/fold only strat in this spot

h8 idno. like we lose to 6 combos? 88/KJ. passive bad guy also might not size like this with these hands so i remove like half of them. not folding here. maybe i'm leaking in this spot i guess
4-betting JJ to fold is basically turn it into a bluff with bad blockers. Sure that some guys will call, but if they jam too much as a bluff we will get massively owned. If I 4-bet JJ it's to call it off(unless it's a cold 4-bet spot).

Which hands we x back at H5 that make better bluffs than KT? We pretty much have 0 SDV. I can't think of many, so most people that won't x back gutshots will either underbluff or be using some legit garbage 0 equity combos as bluffs (and people's x back range in that spot is really heavy on 9x btw).

You seem to play your hand too much and not think about how ranges should be played. People won't punish you for that on ignition but on sn sites they will (or at least try or tilt and end up making an accidental good play vs you).
04-01-2019 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
H8 isn't a turbo muck. It's more of a "think about it then sigh fold" muck. You do beat some hands. Q on the river ruins things somewhat. H5 should be a river check, Q of diamonds is the worst card in the deck there. I agree H4 is a total spew call and H3 is just spew in general on all streets. Also $3k in 3 months is "sweet $$$"? That's less than minimum wage in western countries. Perhaps it's sweet $$$ in Brazil, not sure about wages there.
Gotta valuebet the straight, too many 9x we beat and maybe villain calls with pairs too.

And $3k so far in the year is the same I would be making as an engineer, so it's a big victory for me to be able to grind that money by playing 3h/day, not having to live in sao paulo (and pay rent), with time to go to the gym a lot and progressing in my studies to pass the government job and become a taxman.

I would be surprised if any of my classmates are saving $1k/month (excluding the sickos that work at goldman sachs, google or that are already managers in big companies, which are very few).
04-01-2019 , 09:27 AM
With regards to the A3s 5bet.

AKo and QQ, JJ should be quite frequent flats vs a BB 3bet, but most people are just auto 4betting at 100% frequency. So yes, they are 4betting IP too much, but they are doing it with strong hands, so there's really no incentive to have a 5bet bluff range in this spot.
04-01-2019 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by getmeoffcompletely
With regards to the A3s 5bet.

AKo and QQ, JJ should be quite frequent flats vs a BB 3bet, but most people are just auto 4betting at 100% frequency. So yes, they are 4betting IP too much, but they are doing it with strong hands, so there's really no incentive to have a 5bet bluff range in this spot.
Monker 4-bets almost all QQ, almost all AK and half of its JJ. Also villain is opening >50%, if he has a 4-bet bluffing range it's very likely that he will overdo with those Axo and Kxs hands, really hard to control frequencies if your starting range is that wide.
04-01-2019 , 09:45 AM
And btw, studying a lot with oladipo, learning a lot with him, so sick to study with one guy playing nl1k haha! He also is a specialist on explo poker with his old school strats, so he is very good in the area of the game I'm not that great.
04-01-2019 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
4-betting JJ to fold is basically turn it into a bluff with bad blockers. Sure that some guys will call, but if they jam too much as a bluff we will get massively owned. If I 4-bet JJ it's to call it off(unless it's a cold 4-bet spot).

Which hands we x back at H5 that make better bluffs than KT? We pretty much have 0 SDV. I can't think of many, so most people that won't x back gutshots will either underbluff or be using some legit garbage 0 equity combos as bluffs (and people's x back range in that spot is really heavy on 9x btw).

You seem to play your hand too much and not think about how ranges should be played. People won't punish you for that on ignition but on sn sites they will (or at least try or tilt and end up making an accidental good play vs you).
why would we get owned if they jam too much as a bluff? obv not 4bet folding jj. yeah it's **** if they jam and we have to call but it's also **** when u have to play oop vs KQo.

h5 v bet ******ed sizing so is confirmed bad. u dont need to find ur magical flop x back guttie bluff so that on river Q u have straights vs this guy because he's ******ed and u can just showdown vs a bunch of hands that u have beat. it has nothing to do with anon it's just maximising vs bad play. re better bluffs idno how ur constructing ur flop play but u dont get to raise turn as much as u think here so u don't need many.
04-01-2019 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by baannii4
why would we get owned if they jam too much as a bluff? obv not 4bet folding jj. yeah it's **** if they jam and we have to call but it's also **** when u have to play oop vs KQo.

h5 v bet ******ed sizing so is confirmed bad. u dont need to find ur magical flop x back guttie bluff so that on river Q u have straights vs this guy because he's ******ed and u can just showdown vs a bunch of hands that u have beat. it has nothing to do with anon it's just maximising vs bad play. re better bluffs idno how ur constructing ur flop play but u dont get to raise turn as much as u think here so u don't need many.
Yoy said to 4-bet-fold lol

Do you think I x back KT to be balanced in Qx rivers? Even if he is ******ed, cbetting or x back flop are close, if he probes too much I'm printing. And if you're not raising that much OTT, what are you doing with your trips? Call? Or do you only have trips after raising turn?

By having a raising range after we x back we can increase our defense frequency vs his turn probes and punish him if he is overdoing.

It's the 3rd time you said there are better bluffs than KT in there and yet you haven't posted any hand we could use. I think you don't have a proper plan of your range after x back flop.
04-01-2019 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
Yoy said to 4-bet-fold lol

Do you think I x back KT to be balanced in Qx rivers? Even if he is ******ed, cbetting or x back flop are close, if he probes too much I'm printing. And if you're not raising that much OTT, what are you doing with your trips? Call? Or do you only have trips after raising turn?

By having a raising range after we x back we can increase our defense frequency vs his turn probes and punish him if he is overdoing.

It's the 3rd time you said there are better bluffs than KT in there and yet you haven't posted any hand we could use. I think you don't have a proper plan of your range after x back flop.
i said 4bet/fold as a strategy with entire range MP vs CO 3b.

what better hands is he overdoing his turn probes with?

i don't know how u construct ur range. bluff the ones that aren't king high? bluff the ones with a diamond? i don't have a proper plan for YOUR strategy, yes. is KT the only straight draw u check on flop? how did u decide that? what about 108, qt, q8?

9x is very small part of tree on turn.
04-01-2019 , 11:29 AM
4bet/fold with entire range? you mean you remove the calling option? that seems to be a mistake unless 3bet sizing is way too large
04-01-2019 , 02:24 PM
It's pretty for someone to actually jam 100% of hands...it's actually harder to do online than it is live because you need to see your hand before going all. Even then Q7o is a super marginal call and not a spot that's necessarily worth taking if you tilt or hate variance. If you're shottaking it's an even worse idea.

If are willing to make marginal plays and call someone wide like that you should turn off run it once so you can be the one who stacks them and don't risk chopping...or they get deeper and lose more.
04-01-2019 , 06:19 PM
I don't really understand H3:

We XR to represent a K, and we have decent blockers and some equity vs 99 etc, that part is fine.

But then after we narrow down his range a ton, we still feel like we should call down?

When you make exploitative adjustments, remember that you then shouldn't talk yourself into some random reasoning to justify further play in the hand.
04-01-2019 , 06:25 PM
It's seem like a mindset problem more than anything else, it's like you don't have confidence in your game-plan.

Anyway, gratz on the month!

Last edited by Pakichu777; 04-01-2019 at 06:28 PM. Reason: TBH, you do put your worst hands in this thread, kuddos for that!

      
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