Masjdi, I will let josemourinho say who is worse between quasselinho and I, I think he played vs us both and I post all my bad hands here.
The guy isn't even playing cash anymore, just mtts I think.
And I play really low volume, really hard to get out of this raketrap like that, it will take time but I will get out of 50z. It's easy for you to say I'm bad because I play 50z and becauss of my poor results, but I think my game is fairly decent.
If you believe a game is a rake trap, stop wasting your time playing it.
Most of the time when I see you in the pool you are 2-tabling. Any plans to increase table count in future? Hitting 400k hands in a year while 2-tabling will not be that easy. GL at the tables!
I'd shoot myself in the head outta boredom if I had to 2-table lol. Even 3 tables bores me. Too bad I'm on a laptop and cannot 6-8 zoom :c Rapidesh's brain is still in development so he can't play more than 2 (aka hed go from breakeven to losing player if he added more tables hahahahahah xD)
Most of the time when I see you in the pool you are 2-tabling. Any plans to increase table count in future? Hitting 400k hands in a year while 2-tabling will not be that easy. GL at the tables!
I hit 370k last year while 2-tabling for 99% of the time (and I was lazy, could have pushed for way more volume on 3 months). Just gotta be consistent and play in every opportunity I have. I think 2-tabling is the best way to improve too, the goal in those high raked games should be more to get better than to get a higher hourly. Also my cognitive skills aren't that great(I'm 28), I sometimes misread my hand/the board while 2-tabling, which happens way more when 4-tabling.
Running like aids, roll is at $2.6k
Some hands
H1: vs unknown shaping to be a fish/whale, should I bluff the river?
River:(68.88 BB, 2 players) J Hero checks, BTN bets 104.92 BB and is all-in, fold
BTN wins 65.44 BB
H2: explo call vs 18 vpip nit, it was hard to call this OTR, my Jc is soooo bad, but with that sizing he probably doesn't have AQ and he had very aggro stats for postflop. Nits bluff too!
H3: vs unknown, never folding turn, right? I have decent equity vs 2p and unblock the FD, with AsAx it would be tougher imo, but still a call OTT. OTR when his 9T got there I think it's game over
H4: vs brazilian that isn't located in brazil haha. Exploitable, but he was quite nitty and I blockl FDs, guy has 39 wwsf over 4k hands in my sample and 7% x/r lol. Not missing much by folding this imo. Without the heart blocker I think I would have to just jam flop, right? Even vs that guy?
H5: vs fish, I put him on AK
seriously, with his 3-bet, sizing OTF and x back I thought he had AK A LOT of the time, I thought about just x/f river, but meh, that's so bad. Went for the bet-fold just in case he had some random spazz that hit a pair and wanted to call lol
River:(40.34 BB, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero bets 104.74 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 38.32 BB
H7: vs 41/18 with 4% 3-bet, 63 hands, should I fold this? Vs confirmed nits I like just folding, but the guy had 40 vpip, I almost folded because of the passive stats, but meh, my reasoning behind jamming is that someone with 40 vpip is way more likely to just tilt and go nuts with random crap, so went for the jam. Got stacked in the same spot AK vs AA 20s before this lol
Good news folks. I'm back on the grind again so will be more motivated to review rapidtrash's hands.
H1. fold pre vs that player, 3betting 56s oop vs a whale is awful and just asking to get owned, especially when your just a button clicker. . You have pio but still don't know if you should bluff that hand? xf river.
H5. 4bet pre, the flat is typical scared money, and deservedly owned on the river.
H6. If you want to play for stacks bet larger on the flop rather than your ******ed 25% cbet strategy. I know you think your cool using it because you saw otb and linus do it but for low stakes its ******ed.
H7. Cold 4bet from a passive fish, should be a major red alert so naturally you just pile it in with ako. Deservedly stacked.
The reasoning you gave for shoving in hand 7 is unbelievably bad. The guy is not even in the hand and he cold 4bets you + an MP open to 30bb. He is not tilting with that action. A tilt would be a shove.
The reasoning you gave for shoving in hand 7 is unbelievably bad. The guy is not even in the hand and he cold 4bets you + an MP open to 30bb. He is not tilting with that action. A tilt would be a shove.
Meh, people spazz all the time, I didn't have enough sample to fold AK in there. Also finland taught me to just jam AK vs 4-bets always. Obv vs some guys I won't do it, but gotta put that pressure and punish people if they are wider than they should.
I've seen a lot of people 4-bet to 30bbs and fold. It's very hard to always play perfect in this spot, it happens rarely and shouldn't bother with it that much, if I start second guessing myself for not folding AK pre vs a 40 vpip I will go nuts and it will only do harm to my game.
Btw, you both love to talk about my HH being bad, but you would never fold JJ OTR (which is losing more than jamming AK vs Ak+/QQ+), would never call KJo OTR and probably would call AA OTR, also would 100% stackoff with JJ otf and get owned.
And CO vs OOP 3bet is a somewhat tight spot, it's ok to call some TT/JJ and even AK/QQ vs guys on the tighter side, BTN's position advantage forces CO to be really tight pre and OOP shouldn't mess with that range that much.
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Meh, people spazz all the time, I didn't have enough sample to fold AK in there. Also finland taught me to just jam AK vs 4-bets always. Obv vs some guys I won't do it, but gotta put that pressure and punish people if they are wider than they should.
I've seen a lot of people 4-bet to 30bbs and fold. It's very hard to always play perfect in this spot, it happens rarely and shouldn't bother with it that much, if I start second guessing myself for not folding AK pre vs a 40 vpip I will go nuts and it will only do harm to my game.
Btw, you both love to talk about my HH being bad, but you would never fold JJ OTR (which is losing more than jamming AK vs Ak+/QQ+), would never call KJo OTR and probably would call AA OTR, also would 100% stackoff with JJ otf and get owned.
And CO vs OOP 3bet is a somewhat tight spot, it's ok to call some TT/JJ and even AK/QQ vs guys on the tighter side, BTN's position advantage forces CO to be really tight pre and OOP shouldn't mess with that range that much.
I didn't read your post, but I'm guessing you justified everything with a load of nonsense like you always do. You're way too stubborn in your thinking. You got coaching (how much did you pay for that?) and clearly didn't listen to that, as well as some decent advice ITT a few weeks ago and didn't listen to that either. You are in danger of becoming the new 6betme if you're not careful.
Btw, you both love to talk about my HH being bad, but you would never fold JJ OTR (which is losing more than jamming AK vs Ak+/QQ+), would never call KJo OTR and probably would call AA OTR, also would 100% stackoff with JJ otf and get owned.
I wouldnt let that fish bully me to the river like that to begin with. You flatted his mini 3bet, then called his pathetic 15% cbet, allowing him to realize his equity as easily as possible. Pathetic all round.
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And CO vs OOP 3bet is a somewhat tight spot, it's ok to call some TT/JJ and even AK/QQ vs guys on the tighter side, BTN's position advantage forces CO to be really tight pre and OOP shouldn't mess with that range that much.
Strange you don't use that logic when folding OP's & sets to turn barrels!
Because it's way easier to spazz preflop and my sick folds rely on making assumptions about how villain will be playing each part of his range at any decision point postflop, which makes it possible to narrow down villain's range to a very few hand combos sonetimes if they're playing each hand by itself and not thinking about ranges/gto.
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Yeah, I was surprised people glossed over that one. For all the talk about exploitative play, calling vs a nit isn't how to do it.
Just because villain is tight pre it doesn't mean he automatically underbluffs on every spot postflop. It was still btn vs bb and villain was somewhat wide (probably 25%-30 rfi from the btn) on a board he knows he looks very strong and where he is used to get lots of folds on. So if he is abusing his image and the board+ the fact that he is repping 2p+ and I block a lot of those, it doesn't take much for him to overbluff in there.
Sure that it's not exactly the kind of spot I would want to fight against nits on, since they are tight there will be lots of spots where they will struggle to find value because of lack of SCs in their range. But I felt he was FOS a lot of the time in there given he will be wide on the btn and nits often are used to play a tight range, so it's likely that they will make a lot of mistakes with a loose range with enough Q6s/JTo in there.
Just look at his hand after my call, he was bluffing a 0% equity hand OTT and OTR, he has 26 value combos in there (and I block 7), all draws missed. He was probably overbluffing by 90%+ in that spot easily if he is going nuts with any2 OTT as he did.
For pot otr? I don't think so, those nits maybe will x back AT and if they're betting AQ I expect them to use a 50%-75% sizing to get an easier call. Those nits love valuebetting small to be sure they will get calls and are very scarred of going "too thin", afraid of only getting calls by better.
This happens because most people overfold, specially vs them, so they're afraid to valuebet very thinly. One of the biggest reasons why I learned to go super thin was because people were calling me down so much.
There's also the potential sizing tell where nits go big with 100% of their bluffs and small for value, which I'm not 100% sure if it's accurate because it depends on the level the nit is on: if he is a decent nit he will do that, now if he just thinks about his hand he will probably underbluff.
Vs a good reg I will just have to fold that because he will be valuebetting AQ/AJ always and won't be overbluffing turn that much, which makes Kx calls very bad(specially with Jc) and I will have to call Ax only.
I'm pretty sure in your games most people valuebet thin in there, but at 50z I've seen that a lot of people are afraid of valuebetting thin and overestimate their fold equity, one of the biggest mistakes I spot are x backs that are always valuebets. Vs someone like that they could easily overbluff no matter how tight pre he is.
Just check in your database for spots like that where nits overbet the river, not long ago benabadbeat posted a hand in his thread of a spot where he obviously would underbluff the river if he bluffed with every single bluff candidate he had and he went for the overber and villain snap called a call in theory that was an obvious fold in practice, but he was so confident in his read that he went for the snap call.
Just try to think why would a nit would go that big for value with AQ if in his mind he won't get calls from worse enough of the time. That's something I saw sowiet wings was very consistent in doing, which makes sense vs population but if villain knows that you're screwed
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well I dont know about 50z, you may be right that they are afraid of value betting AJ or AT for that sizing but approximating 2p+ seems a bit over the top, at least include AQ in there
You know that feeling when you tell a friend an original joke, and then few days later hear him telling someone else that same joke as if it's his own?
Kinda getting that feeling...
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I know of some regs in my own pool that value bet rivers with many different bet sizings (based on hand strenght), but pretty much only jam all-in with all bluffs (trying to rep the nuts). I've been exploiting that by calling their overbet jams otr pretty light, with much success. Just something to think about in case you aren't balanced here.
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There's also the potential sizing tell where nits go big with 100% of their bluffs and small for value, which I'm not 100% sure if it's accurate because it depends on the level the nit is on: if he is a decent nit he will do that, now if he just thinks about his hand he will probably underbluff.
jk
Btw, if you think the nit is only value betting two pair+ on the river, KJ might have some of the worst blockers. Most nits will bluff Jx heavy there I'd assume. 67 > KJ imo
Everyone has alot of fun vs u.
Whales takes you to valuetown nits
3 bet bluffs u with pure ****.
Why dont stick to playmoney. Nothing moves there either!$$$
You know that feeling when you tell a friend an original joke, and then few days later hear him telling someone else that same joke as if it's his own?
Kinda getting that feeling...
jk
Btw, if you think the nit is only value betting two pair+ on the river, KJ might have some of the worst blockers. Most nits will bluff Jx heavy there I'd assume. 67 > KJ imo
I had that read for a long time, just wasn't confident by agreeing with you to not give much free valuable info. I think in july last year I posted the first hand I called a 4x pot otr with because of that read. But I don't mind sharing it anymore, since people just think I'm always wrong anyway lol.
And you're right about that, KJ is one of the worst bluffcatchers, specially with the Jc, probably the nut worst that I will have OTR, that's why I took a lot of time to call this despite my read. But if villain is overbluffing any bluffcatcher will have a +EV call
u play like A trained monkey, sorry.
If you belive he 5 bet ur 4 bet alot, wtf does
It tell u? J8 easy 4 bet Bluff...easy fold to 3 bet.
Vs this player.U SEE? U got lucky this time, j high flop And no clue
What ur doing. Stubborn also to many good
Advice itt. If u have played poker for 5years
Pluss and still stuck in micros u have 2 options.
Do something about it or slow down and quit/play for fun.
In your head u are this awsome player. Waste of time.
You wanna end up working in A factory untill ur 80 years
Old? Then they rip u off for ur fkn pention?
U gotta change ur **** now!!
Time to hit the lab.
Just quoting this to remember the most epic post of this thread lol!
Always good to see you, vo2max, but your posts were funnier before you took english classes haha!