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09-02-2018 , 10:06 PM
Rapid, you’re a fish


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09-02-2018 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ValuetownJL
Rapid, you’re a fish


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why am I a fish?
09-02-2018 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ZKesic
H3: why are you betting so small with a set if you're gonna fold vs a raise? I thought that the point of you betting small is to induce raises...
Just bet bigger imo or check.
you know the guy 2x the flop and the other overcalled, right?
in mw pots I bet small, it makes more sense in theory, easier to play for us and harder for all villains of different skill levels. I only go big when there's a massive whale in the pot.

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09-02-2018 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
you know the guy 2x the flop and the other overcalled, right?
He raised to a little more than 1x. Anyways, I never said that the fold was bad.
My point was that if you don't expect people to raise you light there (which I don't think they will), 25% probably isn't the optimal bet size.

My logic might be wrong though. It's just something to think about.
09-02-2018 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ZKesic
He raised to a little more than 1x. Anyways, I never said that the fold was bad.
My point was that if you don't expect people to raise you light there (which I don't think they will), 25% probably isn't the optimal bet size.

My logic might be wrong though. It's just something to think about.
even fish know that they should fold A8 mw there vs a 75% bet, so average players make more mistakes vs the 25%, I've seen people float with hands like A7 with the bdfd there, which is good for us. We give gutshots/oesd better odds, but get more value from pairs/garbage. Also it's less obvious that we have a set.
09-02-2018 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
even fish know that they should fold A8 mw there vs a 75% bet, so average players make more mistakes vs the 25%, I've seen people float with hands like A7 with the bdfd there, which is good for us. We give gutshots/oesd better odds, but get more value from pairs/garbage. Also it's less obvious that we have a set.
You're probably right. I definitely don't think that GTO would be using big sizings there pretty much ever. I actually wouldn't be surprised if checking 90%+ of our range is the optimal play here.
88/99 should be a huge part in all of their ranges.
09-02-2018 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ValuetownJL
Mirage, you’re under-defending BVB.
this isnt spins dude.

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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
you know the guy 2x the flop and the other overcalled, right?
in mw pots I bet small, it makes more sense in theory, easier to play for us and harder for all villains of different skill levels. I only go big when there's a massive whale in the pot.
Hard for villains to call 25% bets ? lol

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even fish know that they should fold A8 mw there vs a 75% bet, so average players make more mistakes vs the 25%, I've seen people float with hands like A7 with the bdfd there, which is good for us. We give gutshots/oesd better odds, but get more value from pairs/garbage. Also it's less obvious that we have a set.
nobody suggested cbetting 75%. they are calling garbage larger than 25% though.
09-03-2018 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mirage01
this isnt spins dude.


What % do you defend BVB facing a SB 3x?




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09-03-2018 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ValuetownJL
What % do you defend BVB facing a SB 3x?

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I think it shouldnt be a big concern for him given his opposition, J6o is already insanely loose for 50z given how high the rake is and how tight people open. I think villain was stealing 80%> from the SB for me to have called this.

Also our defend should not only depend on villain's sizing, but his range too. J6o gets destroyed vs a 30% open, but does fine vs a 70%+ one, I think mirage's opponents on average steal around 30%. While in your spins you have 0 rake and I expect your opponents to play closer to optimal in those preflop decisions(given they play SB vs BB more often, since it's 3-max), making it easier for you to see J6o as a defend.

And mirage, it makes easier for our opponents to make mistakes vs that sizing, obviously it makes it easier for them to continue. But that small sizing actually weakens their calling range(getting rid of all slowplays and adding weak floats), giving us better opportunities to valuebet thinly ott/barrel them off
09-03-2018 , 02:50 PM
Also that sizing allows us to get more value vs multiple weak ranges: if we bet 25% and 3 people call, we got 100% in the pot with 25% from us: the pot grows at the same rate as with a 50% sizing with us putting only 25% in the middle.

And the first to act after us will often be in a tough spot with more 2 people to act, so he has to worry about getting squeezed otf, so on average he wont be able to realize much equity. And also this guy will have position on us, if our small bet forces him to overfold his equity its a huge victory for our thin value/bluffs already. Also the last person to defend vs our cbet will often be the BB, which is OOP vs us. After we bet, the BB has the best relative position at that street, but after the betting is done, he will have the worst.
09-03-2018 , 04:18 PM
Play some tourneys Rapid might be good for you to gain another perspective and no better time than right now!
09-03-2018 , 05:07 PM
You seem to be getting a bit of heat in this thread Rapidesh so I just wanted to thank you for keeping this thread going. I am enjoying reading it and I am learning some stuff too so thanks big guy. Keep going and GL!
09-03-2018 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by herbalerv
Play some tourneys Rapid might be good for you to gain another perspective and no better time than right now!
Why is it no better time than right now to play tourneys?
09-03-2018 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by herbalerv
Play some tourneys Rapid might be good for you to gain another perspective and no better time than right now!
Lol donkaments, if I start playing them I'll be lost forever as a regfish haha! Why do you think they would give me another perspective?

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You seem to be getting a bit of heat in this thread Rapidesh so I just wanted to thank you for keeping this thread going. I am enjoying reading it and I am learning some stuff too so thanks big guy. Keep going and GL!
Np, man, I like updating here, it's fun to watch my progress and to see how I used to think/theories and stuff. The times I've studied play money hands will always be a meme haha!


Played some today, feel like I'm running very well, but playing well on average too. So far 3.5k hands this month.

Bad hand of the day:

I thought the guy was opening super wide, but I didn't have enough sample to 3-bet this light, meh. OTF it's std, OTT I think it's just a fold. Villain's value range has us dead, so I depend on his bluffs to be +EV, without info on him, I think population isn't bluffing enough for me to print there. Also the turn makes it really easy for us to fold, since his valuebets will probably have the same sizing as his bluffs(fullhouse betsize in there). If turn were a 2h, then it would be more likely that this 50% sizing would be a bluff. Anyway, the 16% equity when called is very important in order to make it +EV.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 136.62 BB
SB: 107.84 BB
Hero (BB): 259.46 BB
UTG: 158 BB
MP: 139.4 BB
CO: 101.98 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T J

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 14 BB, BTN calls 11 BB

Flop: (28.5 BB, 2 players) 9 6 Q
Hero bets 7.04 BB, BTN raises to 17 BB, Hero calls 9.96 BB

Turn: (62.5 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, BTN bets 33 BB, Hero raises to 228.46 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 72.62 BB and is all-in

River: (273.74 BB, 2 players) 3

Spoiler:
Hero shows T J (One Pair, Sixes)
(Pre 14%, Flop 26%, Turn 0%)
BTN shows Q Q (Full House, Queens full of Sixes)
(Pre 86%, Flop 74%, Turn 100%)
BTN wins 269.74 BB




H2: Not sure about this one, is jamming turn std? Villain was 3-betting super tight and I thought he was value-heavy OTT, also people don't bluff the river enough on 50z. Vs a good player I should just call turn, right? I fastplay a lot in those spots, don't know if it's the best thing to do. It's quite a simple spot, but maybe I'm not playing those well.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 61.22 BB
SB: 135.98 BB
BB: 78.46 BB
UTG: 424.26 BB
MP: 51.6 BB
Hero (CO): 132.36 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 4

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, SB raises to 6 BB, fold, Hero calls 3.68 BB

Flop: (13 BB, 2 players) 2 9 3
SB bets 5.8 BB, Hero calls 5.8 BB

Turn: (24.6 BB, 2 players) 6
SB bets 16.12 BB, Hero raises to 120.56 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 54 BB


H3: Second bad hand of the day, meh, insanely bad call vs fish, they underbluff with that sizing, It's so hard to keep folding while calling at the same time(after looking my calls were good)

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 39.5 BB
SB: 103 BB
BB: 65.26 BB
UTG: 125.08 BB
Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 74.88 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A T

fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 1.82 BB, fold

Flop: (5.64 BB, 2 players) 6 2 K
SB checks, Hero bets 1.4 BB, SB calls 1.4 BB

Turn: (8.44 BB, 2 players) T
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (8.44 BB, 2 players) Q
SB bets 8.02 BB, Hero calls 8.02 BB

Spoiler:
SB shows A J (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 68%, Flop 85%, Turn 16%)
Hero mucks A T (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 32%, Flop 15%, Turn 84%)
SB wins 23.26 BB
09-04-2018 , 01:13 AM
Look at hand 1 and look at hand 2 and only focus on your own hands and then ask yourself. Did i really say only dude in z200 with perfect river balance. And now ask yourself why do i ask my audience about this 2 hands...and keep in mind this is micros so save the brilliant idees
Shouldent it be clear?
You have to many brainfarts...
09-04-2018 , 02:07 AM
H1 think you should consider that your 3b size means that, on average, defends will be weighted towards stronger hands. Think you can make a disciplined c/f on turn especially as you hold blockers to many of the bluffs you need them to have. But can sort of understand why you did what you did as it’s a reasonably dry board and sets could very easily flat + flatting AA or KK is non std line so hard to put them on those. Still think it’s overly ambitious though, you could be way tighter with 3bs and choose better spots against players you have good samples on and make a killing at 50nl.


H2 you shot your load too early, hard to see what you just call flop with then pile turn that an overpair beats. Even competent regs at 10nl will find good folds with over pairs vs this line. Just call turn and raise on most rivers. Even on hearts and paired boards you can happily flat vs most PSB or < sizes and just chalk it down to a cooler if beat. And you can prob raise vs most sizes when the board pairs on river and still rep missed FD and PP repping boats. You also can rep bluffs much more effectively by flatting turn and raising good rivers.


H3 seems an easy fold. You beat a few flush draws (some of which might not even bluff because they have Ah so enough SDV to win) maybe JTh or T9h that makes bizarre bet on river, or maybe some PPs turned into bluffs, and 99-77 are super unlikely because SDV and 55-33 are super unlikely too. So you need to get very creative to come up with enough bluffs/horrendous vbets to call here and it’s surely unlikely most of those are even in an average villain’s range. + as you rightly say, the population underbluffs when using the pot or greater sozings on river.

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09-04-2018 , 03:17 AM
What do you all get out of ripping into Rapid nonstop? What is it's purpose? Do you all feel better about yourself when you bash someone else? Horrible people, and if that need to feel superior exists in you all do this to fill that void or hide the truth from yourselves.
09-04-2018 , 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
What do you all get out of ripping into Rapid nonstop? What is it's purpose? Do you all feel better about yourself when you bash someone else? Horrible people, and if that need to feel superior exists in you all do this to fill that void or hide the truth from yourselves.
+1
rapidesh has one of the most interesting PGC's and everyone here just shooting him down. Personally I'm just happy he provides me with great entertainment to keep reading and I hope he turns things around. Please don't let the haters down rapi and keep the PGC active
09-04-2018 , 03:38 AM
H1. JTo is never a 3bet there ever, against anyone, so to do it deep stack is even extra ******ed. Building a big pot deep oop with crap. Deservedly stacked.


H2. Stupid turn jam that deep.


H3. Bet turn, there is still so much value there, you still have no idea about what these idiots call with. Looks like you will be on 25z pretty soon.



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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
What do you all get out of ripping into Rapid nonstop? What is it's purpose? Do you all feel better about yourself when you bash someone else? Horrible people, and if that need to feel superior exists in you all do this to fill that void or hide the truth from yourselves.
Pure entertainment value. You out of 2nl yet? lel
09-04-2018 , 06:58 AM
In the 45s hand Im lost because I used to play with 100bbs only, so cant raise small, so was in doubt with jamming(what I used to do) or just calling. I used to jam draws too. After looking at it for a bit, villain had a fishy 3-bet sizing.

And AT has some value ott, but not as much as you think, mirage, I see more value in x back to induce, but vs river sizing its a fold. Vs a small sizing its an easy call vs a fish.
09-04-2018 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
What do you all get out of ripping into Rapid nonstop? What is it's purpose? Do you all feel better about yourself when you bash someone else? Horrible people, and if that need to feel superior exists in you all do this to fill that void or hide the truth from yourselves.
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Originally Posted by Xptboy
+1
rapidesh has one of the most interesting PGC's and everyone here just shooting him down. Personally I'm just happy he provides me with great entertainment to keep reading and I hope he turns things around. Please don't let the haters down rapi and keep the PGC active
Thx, guys! Vaaaamooo
09-04-2018 , 09:42 AM
man this JT turn jam is torching money, it would be a viable play if you had JThh and turn didn't pair the board, otherwise it's just not a thing, also don't 3bet this, even AQo is calling more often than 3betting there
09-04-2018 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
man this JT turn jam is torching money, it would be a viable play if you had JThh and turn didn't pair the board, otherwise it's just not a thing, also don't 3bet this, even AQo is calling more often than 3betting there
Didnt know that about AQo, is it because position is so important?
Yeah, terrible turn play by me. Gotta stop making huge mistakes like that, but vs a player with a lot of bluffs, on a non-pairing turn, what do you think about that? Fish often spazz out vs those small cbets.
09-04-2018 , 09:53 AM
just fold turn unless sizing is small enough that you can peel
09-04-2018 , 10:09 AM
You have very interesting 3b ranges BTN/BB v steal & SB v BB.

      
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