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08-14-2018 , 12:18 AM
Why not play on bovada where the games are softer?

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08-14-2018 , 12:35 AM
In reality you don't even have enough bullets for 50z.
08-14-2018 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mirage01
In reality you don't even have enough bullets for 50z.
Why do you troll this thread? I know rapidesh doesn't really care you are here because he knows you are just blowing off steam from living a crappy life, but you annoy everyone else and your hand analysis's often look like they come from someone stuck in 2010.
08-14-2018 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
Why do you troll this thread? I know rapidesh doesn't really care you are here because he knows you are just blowing off steam from living a crappy life, but you annoy everyone else and your hand analysis's often look like they come from someone stuck in 2010.
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NL10 KK deep WorldzMine 03-04-2011
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5NL KQs Weird Hand--Okay or Spew? WorldzMine 07-19- 2018
Maybe I should start playing some 2018 poker and grind my way down to 5nl like you. lulz.

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but you annoy everyone else
I wasn't aware little 5nl grinders spoke for the entire 2+2 community. I'm actually the highlight of this thread, apart from rapids lol hands of course.
08-14-2018 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by rileymadison2345
Why not play on bovada where the games are softer?

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I have more fun playing with a sn and knowing people, also stars software is better. And Im not confident Im that good of an explo player to crush bovada. I think I would have the same results there while not imgproving as much.

Also I get data on some top regs of 500z when they drop down to 200z, so I can study their game to learn more.

Its funny to see Im not good at exploiting people pretty hard, I used to think it was one of my strengths while it isnt. Whenever I try to go on some sick leveling war against someone I always lose. Also Im not good at gto poker either. I think Im only good in constructing exploitative ranges vs people trying to pick on their imbalances, like a "soft" exploit. Which isnt the most winning strat at an anonymous table, finding the best play with your exact hand vs population is way more important and Im bad at doing that
08-14-2018 , 01:22 AM
So essentially you are literally bad at everything?
08-14-2018 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mirage01
Maybe I should start playing some 2018 poker and grind my way down to 5nl like you. lulz.



I wasn't aware little 5nl grinders spoke for the entire 2+2 community. I'm actually the highlight of this thread, apart from rapids lol hands of course.
1) stakes don't matter except certain adjustments
2) I've played up (and won at) 50NL but have withdrawn money at times for life things and started over many times as a result.

If you think the level a person is currently playing matters much then you don't understand game theory with exploitation via reads
08-14-2018 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
1) stakes don't matter except certain adjustments
2) I've played up (and won at) 50NL but have withdrawn money at times for life things and started over many times as a result.
Nice excuses but if you were any good you wouldn't be starting over at 5nl in 2018. lul

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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
If you think the level a person is currently playing matters much then you don't understand game theory with exploitation via reads
We can all see how well your knowledge of game theory is going. By the looks of your 'progression' you will be applying it in the play money streets soon. I suggest you be a little more humble when addressing me in the future Mr 5NL.

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08-14-2018 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
1) stakes don't matter except certain adjustments
Really lol? That's rich. Tell that to the 500z crushers. That's just an insult to the hard work these guys put in regularly.
08-14-2018 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Mzbourg
So essentially you are literally bad at everything?
Im not that river rat that always knows how to choose his sizings that he wants to get calls with or folds with. Most of the times Ive tried to do that I got owned, think Ive even chose sometimes a smaller sizing with my value that got more folds than a bigger one, than whenever I was bluffing I managed to get more calls with a bigger sizing vs people.

But Im good at making my frequencies in a way people will make mistakes by calling or folding, as an example: will show up with 20% bluffs OTR vs some people after betting 75%, and getting incorrect calls from villain. Also show up bluffing like 50% and getting folds vs other guys.

This way of exploiting is way less ambitious and I dont own people really hard, it also limits how much I can profit vs someone, but its way harder to deal with. Thats why I say I couldnt beat 25z for a bigger winrate than 4bb/100. That playstyle is heavily punished by rake too.

But I think its a strong approach and I should stick with it, Im not super talented in pokwr to make those sick overbluffs and own peoples soul.
08-14-2018 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mirage01
JTs, why are you checking the flop? bet it and jam turn, simple.

45s, no idea what you are repping there. You over bet jam air, but in the hand above you play trips like TP. lul.

H1. xr that flop is lolz. Deservedly stacked.

H2 'quite loose' = quite awful.

H3. You pick up equity so barrel it , don't check. Deservedly owned yet again.


H5. Turn a boat so we obviously want to raise for value to build the pot, so naturally you just flat, and proceed to get owned on the river. Pathetic really. 2nl regs would have played that better.

Verdict. 0/7.

Do you notice the common theme lately is you getting owned? I wonder when you will realize its time to move down.
You constantly telling Rapidesh outright that his game is awful is really approaching pot/kettle territory imo, but at least you're right that he should move down

Rapid, $5k is barely enough for 100z. Playing in an extremely tough game where you probably don't have a true winrate with not even 30 BI doesn't make much sense tbh, even if you love battling

Having said that, you have so much that I'm rooting for you one way or another
08-14-2018 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by whitemares
You constantly telling Rapidesh outright that his game is awful is really approaching pot/kettle territory imo, but at least you're right that he should move down

Rapid, $5k is barely enough for 100z. Playing in an extremely tough game where you probably don't have a true winrate with not even 30 BI doesn't make much sense tbh, even if you love battling

Having said that, you have so much that I'm rooting for you one way or another
Its not responsible, but Im so confident with my game at the moment that I will keep playing 200. Ive been there before with even worse brm, like in 50z with 14 bi while not knowing for sure I was a winner there. I usually work better under this kind of pressure when I dont have much to lose anymore.

And 40 bi at 100z is plenty, so if I have to move down, so be it.

Vaaaamoooo
08-14-2018 , 01:20 PM
gl gl
08-14-2018 , 01:58 PM
I'd agree that your game is the best it's ever been, but I still frankly think you're in a bit over your head. You do seem pretty aware of the risks though, so I can't really argue with that if you have no problem moving down and can stand to lose some money
08-14-2018 , 06:45 PM
This is coming from a bankroll nit so I am biased but I agree with the concerns about your bankroll. I used to play at 50nlz and 100nlz on stars 1.5 years ago before I quit following the announcement of the Australia online poker ban. I had modest winrates at both stakes - average reg vibe - but had a few 50 buyin downswings. My strategy was very high variance with many bluffs, your strategy seems very high variance as well and thus its quite common to just go on stretches of pain.

I would strongly recommend playing in games you are well rolled for because it builds up your discipline and patience later down your poker career. Its great that you aggressively want to play the higher stakes but when you get there you will be lacking a lot of the off table skills that you should have developed at the lower stakes. For example you may not experience a 50-100 buyin down swing at 200nl but you might experience this at 1knl. How are you going to react to a negative scenario if you have never been through a really large downswing before? My guess is - not well. This is why so many young aspiring players climb all the stakes quickly but go busto at higher stakes because they didn't build their discipline and mental game early in their careers.

This may be a poor analogy but I will try my best. A couple of months ago I was seeing impressive results with my bicep strength at the gym. I was going up weight very quickly every week without considering the strength of the other parts of my arm. Eventually I got to a weight where my forearm could not withstand the weight and seriously injured myself. My biceps could handle the weight but I never did any micro training for my forearm. I couldn't go to the gym for 3-4 weeks which set all my progress back a lot. I guess what I am trying to say is that you need your entire skill to progress equally otherwise there will be an imbalance at some point which could have serious consequences for you. From what I see, your on table skills are progressing quickly (via strategy etc) but off table skills (like BRM) behind.

Anyway its just an opinion, but I hope you consider it. Best of luck
08-14-2018 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
Im not that river rat that always knows how to choose his sizings that he wants to get calls with or folds with. Most of the times Ive tried to do that I got owned, think Ive even chose sometimes a smaller sizing with my value that got more folds than a bigger one, than whenever I was bluffing I managed to get more calls with a bigger sizing vs people.

But Im good at making my frequencies in a way people will make mistakes by calling or folding, as an example: will show up with 20% bluffs OTR vs some people after betting 75%, and getting incorrect calls from villain. Also show up bluffing like 50% and getting folds vs other guys.

This way of exploiting is way less ambitious and I dont own people really hard, it also limits how much I can profit vs someone, but its way harder to deal with. Thats why I say I couldnt beat 25z for a bigger winrate than 4bb/100. That playstyle is heavily punished by rake too.

But I think its a strong approach and I should stick with it, Im not super talented in pokwr to make those sick overbluffs and own peoples soul.

What?
08-14-2018 , 11:09 PM
Played today, lost 1 BI, 6 more to go, vaaaaaaaamo! Will defend those last 6 BI with everything I got!

Some hands

H1: vs top 500z reg, so annoying to lose to that kicker haha. VAAAAMO! Btw, he snap called that, so sick, there's no hand I would snap call there but 88 haha!

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 161.97 BB
SB: 277.59 BB
Hero (BB): 102.52 BB
UTG: 152.13 BB
MP: 101.5 BB
CO: 354.43 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 9

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 2.97 BB, Hero calls 1.97 BB

Flop: (5.94 BB, 2 players) Q 3 2
SB bets 1.7 BB, Hero calls 1.7 BB

Turn: (9.33 BB, 2 players) 8
SB checks, Hero bets 4.61 BB, SB calls 4.61 BB

River: (18.54 BB, 2 players) 8
SB checks, Hero bets 35 BB, SB calls 35 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows 8 9 (Three of a Kind, Eights)
(Pre 27%, Flop 17%, Turn 14%)
SB shows 8 T (Three of a Kind, Eights)
(Pre 73%, Flop 83%, Turn 86%)
SB wins 87.17 BB


H2: vs unknown that was probably a whale/fish, can't fold when he could be overplaying a lot of stuff, right?

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 172.83 BB
SB: 162.36 BB
BB: 134.79 BB
UTG: 48.32 BB
Hero (MP): 104.03 BB
CO: 143.07 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, CO raises to 7.85 BB, BTN calls 7.85 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 5.53 BB

Flop: (25.04 BB, 3 players) 6 3 9
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets 20 BB, Hero calls 20 BB, fold

Turn: (65.04 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BTN bets 63.66 BB, Hero raises to 76.19 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 12.53 BB

River: (217.41 BB, 2 players) 5

Spoiler:
Hero shows J J (Two Pair, Jacks and Threes)
(Pre 82%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
BTN shows 6 6 (Full House, Sixes full of Threes)
(Pre 18%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
BTN wins 216.03 BB


H3: so annoying to see that runnount, I feel I have to donk-jam river here with some hands, right?

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 108.19 BB
Hero (SB): 102.38 BB
BB: 109.74 BB
UTG: 172.09 BB
MP: 98.22 BB
CO: 84.41 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 9

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) T Q 8
Hero checks, BB bets 1.48 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB, BB raises to 20.87 BB, Hero calls 14.87 BB

Turn: (47.74 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, BB bets 12.05 BB, Hero calls 12.05 BB

River: (71.84 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, BB checks

Spoiler:
Hero shows J 9 (Straight, King High)
(Pre 73%, Flop 94%, Turn 60%)
BB shows 9 T (Straight, King High)
(Pre 27%, Flop 6%, Turn 40%)
Hero wins 35.24 BB
BB wins 35.23 BB


H4: this one is really weird, decided to fold because couldn't see any Ac offsuit hand he could have in there

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 195.03 BB
SB: 163.49 BB
BB: 148.97 BB
UTG: 107.1 BB
MP: 401.06 BB
Hero (CO): 116.29 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K 2

fold, MP calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, SB calls 3.5 BB, fold, MP calls 3 BB

Flop: (13 BB, 3 players) J K 3
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets 4.09 BB, SB calls 4.09 BB, fold

Turn: (21.18 BB, 2 players) 4
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (21.18 BB, 2 players) 7
SB checks, Hero bets 10.46 BB, SB raises to 155.4 BB and is all-in, fold

SB wins 40.73 BB


H5: inducements! haha vaaaaaaamoo

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 66.3 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 111.98 BB
UTG: 206.93 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 118.63 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, BTN calls 6 BB

Flop: (17 BB, 2 players) 3 T T
Hero bets 5.35 BB, BTN calls 5.35 BB

Turn: (27.69 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (27.69 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 8.72 BB, BTN raises to 52.96 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 44.24 BB

Spoiler:
BTN shows Q 9 (Four of a Kind, Tens)
(Pre 28%, Flop 41%, Turn 31%)
Hero shows A Q (Four of a Kind, Tens)
(Pre 72%, Flop 59%, Turn 69%)
Hero wins 132.23 BB


H6: no explo folds here! I used to fold here a lot, not anymore, thanks to gazzyb, saw him calling AK high in a similar spot and thought how ******ed I was for folding pairs in there lol.

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 31.35 BB
Hero (SB): 104.2 BB
BB: 101 BB
UTG: 113.72 BB
MP: 113.11 BB
CO: 98.65 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9.15 BB, Hero calls 6.15 BB

Flop: (18.3 BB, 2 players) 6 4 6
Hero checks, BB bets 5.47 BB, Hero calls 5.47 BB

Turn: (29.23 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, BB bets 17.27 BB, Hero calls 17.27 BB

River: (63.77 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, BB bets 69.12 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 69.12 BB

Spoiler:
BB shows Q K (One Pair, Sixes)
(Pre 44%, Flop 24%, Turn 14%)
Hero shows T T (Two Pair, Tens and Sixes)
(Pre 56%, Flop 76%, Turn 86%)
Hero wins 200.63 BB
08-14-2018 , 11:41 PM
H1. Floating with 9 high, looking to battle a 500z reg with effective 7 buy ins. Fold flop and move on with life.

H2. Scared to 4bet so you flat pre because playing JJ OOP 3 way is so plus ev. Deservedly punished and stacked.

H3. Awful flop flat, because your scared again. Deservedly rivered.

H4. Why the hell are you checking turn on that board??? jesus. Deservedly owned again.

H6. 4bet pre, scared money as usual. At least you showed some balls and called off for once.


Verdict. 1/6
08-15-2018 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by skuzlad
This is coming from a bankroll nit so I am biased but I agree with the concerns about your bankroll. I used to play at 50nlz and 100nlz on stars 1.5 years ago before I quit following the announcement of the Australia online poker ban. I had modest winrates at both stakes - average reg vibe - but had a few 50 buyin downswings. My strategy was very high variance with many bluffs, your strategy seems very high variance as well and thus its quite common to just go on stretches of pain.

I would strongly recommend playing in games you are well rolled for because it builds up your discipline and patience later down your poker career. Its great that you aggressively want to play the higher stakes but when you get there you will be lacking a lot of the off table skills that you should have developed at the lower stakes. For example you may not experience a 50-100 buyin down swing at 200nl but you might experience this at 1knl. How are you going to react to a negative scenario if you have never been through a really large downswing before? My guess is - not well. This is why so many young aspiring players climb all the stakes quickly but go busto at higher stakes because they didn't build their discipline and mental game early in their careers.

This may be a poor analogy but I will try my best. A couple of months ago I was seeing impressive results with my bicep strength at the gym. I was going up weight very quickly every week without considering the strength of the other parts of my arm. Eventually I got to a weight where my forearm could not withstand the weight and seriously injured myself. My biceps could handle the weight but I never did any micro training for my forearm. I couldn't go to the gym for 3-4 weeks which set all my progress back a lot. I guess what I am trying to say is that you need your entire skill to progress equally otherwise there will be an imbalance at some point which could have serious consequences for you. From what I see, your on table skills are progressing quickly (via strategy etc) but off table skills (like BRM) behind.

Anyway its just an opinion, but I hope you consider it. Best of luck
sick, what was your stdev? mine is 87bb/100

and you're right about the brm

Spoiler:
but I can't quit playing 200z, I'm so pumped to play that I'm playing 2-3k hands/day, gotta bust those 6 BI
08-15-2018 , 12:32 AM
H1, 89 off suit is such a terrible float. So many better hands you can float with. Trip 8's is always a snap call there, not sure why you think it isn't. He effectively has the nuts the way the hand played out.
08-15-2018 , 03:39 AM
Trup 7’s pussy out. Jacks go for da value lolz. Balanced is only a word for you like the latest overbluff and underbluff, explo and everything Else u dont understand. Best thread ever. Full over humor
08-15-2018 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
H1, 89 off suit is such a terrible float. So many better hands you can float with. Trip 8's is always a snap call there, not sure why you think it isn't. He effectively has the nuts the way the hand played out.
It's a 20% bet, gotta defend a lot vs that, overcards to the midpair with a bdfd IP seems to be fine. Its marginal and bottom of my defend range. Anyone thinks its a fold?
08-15-2018 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
It's a 20% bet, gotta defend a lot vs that, overcards to the midpair with a bdfd IP seems to be fine. Its marginal and bottom of my defend range. Anyone thinks its a fold?
its a fold. i also dont like our sizing ott nor that we should bet that turn at all with 89
08-15-2018 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by z0mgtiltz
I don't even wanna know who that Mzbourg guy is, I just wanna know who knows him to see who's worth knowing!
this thread is something else
08-15-2018 , 09:53 AM
you can defend 89o vs 28%, but turn bet is bad. river is easy snapcall for V, don't understand your concern about that.

      
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