Mirage, I still have 10 bi to burn at 200z lol. Still a lot of room for the comeback. Tbh even though Ive ran hot at the start of 200z, overall ot seems Im not running as good. Also most of my volume happens on the toughest days of the week(since 50z, in the last 400k hands). So its very hard for me to be a losing/breakeven reg. Still think Im not that sick of a winner, probably between 1-3bb/100. If I played mostly on good days, maybe a 5bb winner?
Will see wtf Ill do, probably play more today/tomorrow
I just wanna hop in and say that if you think that you're 1-3bb winner on 200 it would be a lot better to play 100 and steadily build your BR and get better, because with that w/r variance is very high and you'll have massive swings which isn't great if you have such 'liberal' BRM
Btw, what tilted me the most in the last sessions werent the fact I was losing that much, but that every x/r Ive made as a bluff was getting floats, when I had value peoplefolded, when Ive made an explo sizing people would show up with hands that would have called a big sizing. Meh. Its so annoying. Had to make so many folds too
Isn't this what always happens at zoom though? When you have a monster hand, everyone folds. When you bluff, people will call you down with any pair.
Dropping down to 100z, sitting at a 6.5k bankroll. I'm sooooo tilted atm, will chill for a while before playing my next session.
I a lot of the time I'm having value, I get folds and still getting jammed on when I'm bluffing lol. Also had to make insane folds vs x/r OTF vs people who had like 6% x/r lol. It's sooooo tilting
Some hands
H1: vs unknown(probably a fish), 100% tilt, super ******ed, and the worst part is that OTR I have a clear +EV bluff and managed to just give up LOL It's soooooooo bad, like completely butchered the hand on every street but pre-flop
Turn:(34.21 BB, 2 players) 8
SB checks, Hero bets 24.63 BB, SB raises to 304.55 BB and is all-in, fold
SB wins 82.09 BB
H3: guy tanked until the last second and folded, so annoying. I like this play, villain has close to 0 flushes and very few straights, so I have a clear valuebet here imo
River:(75.31 BB, 2 players) 6
SB checks, Hero bets 66.85 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 73.94 BB
H4: I hate calling the river, but in this one I think a lot of people can overbluff, also R2D2(pt 4 range notes) said he was 3-betting A5o, so good call, right?
River:(90.5 BB, 2 players) 6 SB bets 55.25 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 55.25 BB and is all-in
Spoiler:
SB shows J J (Two Pair, Jacks and Fives)
Hero shows T Q (Two Pair, Tens and Fives)
SB wins 199.63 BB
H5: pre is ambitious, but guy was folding a lot and there was so much dead money in the pot already, also if the first guy folds, usually the pot is mine, OTF it's std imo, OTT is it any good? I'll have better bluffs than this one, but he has 0 AK, he has a lot of weak Ax/AJs/ATs that will fold, some floats with KJs and Qx as well, maybe he even folds AQ(who knows lol)
gonna eat some fried chicken and relax for a bit! VAAAAAAAAAAAMO
btw, hate playing 100z, rake in there is super high and people in there don't like folding the river
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About AJ hand, villain had a high 3-bet and very higj f3b(80%) a high f4b too. So with all the dead money in there, thought my play was super +ev preflop. OTF came the sickest board for my range, he had all slowplays preflop at a high frequency and he bet super big, imo its gg: QQ+ almost always. Since he folded a lot preflop, thought he wouldnt have as many bluffs, specially for that sizing. His AK would almost always be jams preflop rather than calls and I dont think he would call SCs/suited broadways too, leaving his range overpair-heavy.
Quite an ambitious read on my part, but a lot of people play like that, his flop sizing indicates I was right about my read quite often too. He wasnt a decent reg obv
Oh ok, so it wasn't a misclick and you really are that ******ed. Amazingly you still continue to surprise me which is saying a lot.
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Also most of my volume happens on the toughest days of the week(since 50z, in the last 400k hands). So its very hard for me to be a losing/breakeven reg. Still think Im not that sick of a winner, probably between 1-3bb/100. If I played mostly on good days, maybe a 5bb winner?
What stakes are you talking about? you really think your a winner at 200z with a 60k sample? lolz. Stop being delusional. I personally don't think you are true winner above 16z.
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H5: pre is ambitious, but guy was folding a lot and there was so much dead money in the pot already, also if the first guy folds, usually the pot is mine, OTF it's std imo, OTT is it any good? I'll have better bluffs than this one, but he has 0 AK, he has a lot of weak Ax/AJs/ATs that will fold, some floats with KJs and Qx as well, maybe he even folds AQ(who knows lol)
lol @ trying to get someone off Ax on that board ever. Level of delusional is strong. You should never be even thinking about that. Flop is just xf, like pre flop.
H6. x turn, and bluff river if villain x. over bet turn, and 1/3 river = lolz
I think Im a winner at 200z, obv my sample size is small, but from what Ive seen, 200z plays somewhat close to 50z and 100z, also with a smaller rake. Had a 8bb/100 rake at 50z, 7bb/100 at 100z and 5;6bb/100 at 200z. Obv regs are better, they make less mistakes, but I would be surprised if the rake difference wouldnt cover that. Also I play way more based on theory than it looks, Im rarely showing up OTR with super unbalanced ranges, only in some rare spots where I'm clearly going explo like on 67s and Q5dd, where I overbet jam the river.
So my playstyle should have a similar EV no matter which stakes I play, while being super sensitive to rake. If I would guess, I think that I would be on average one of the most balanced players OTR in the stakes I played. Its not a good thing though, in those stakes I should go explo and gg, but Im a paranoid person and a lot of the times try to not overbluff or underbluff the river.
Just look at the research Ive made sometime ago, I was x/r the river with 34% bluffs, which is the % needed to make a pot sized bet indifferent(my sizings were from 75%-200%, but most of the time 100%). Also from 50z-100z I was bluffing 36% otr when 3bet, bet, jam. Recently on 200z Ive made the same research and foumd out I was underbluffing, but I was running hot.
Btw, my ranges are very unbalanced until I get to the river though, but I would be surprised if 30% of the regs at least considered some give ups OTR because they would be afraid of overbluffing, or turning sdv into bluffs because they would be underbluffing.
And about my EV being similar on all stakes, Im only talking about stakes Ive already played ofc. Im not sure if I will be ever good enough to beat 500z+
I think Im a winner at 200z, obv my sample size is small, but from what Ive seen, 200z plays somewhat close to 50z and 100z, also with a smaller rake. Had a 8bb/100 rake at 50z, 7bb/100 at 100z and 5;6bb/100 at 200z.
huh? according to the graphs you posted a few pages back you were beating 50z for 3.6bb, 100z for 1bb (over only 80k) you have no winning sample above 50z.
So my playstyle should have a similar EV no matter which stakes I play, while being super sensitive to rake. If I would guess, I think that I would be on average one of the most balanced players OTR in the stakes I played. Its not a good thing though, in those stakes I should go explo and gg, but Im a paranoid person and a lot of the times try to not overbluff or underbluff the river.
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero raises to 27 BB, BB calls 17 BB
Flop:(54.5 BB, 2 players) 4 2 6 BB checks, Hero bets 88.88 BB and is all-in, BB calls 72.38 BB and is all-in
Turn:(199.25 BB, 2 players) 9
River:(199.25 BB, 2 players) 8
Spoiler:
BB shows K A (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 7%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%) Hero shows A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 93%, Flop 99%, Turn 100%) Hero wins 197.88 BB
H3: snap called by reg, at least I have TT in there, but I'm probably massively underbluffing lol. So annoying, can't bluff that much those coffee bets. Guy had 80% river fold, so sick to see him snap calling that haha
fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, CO calls 2.32 BB, fold, fold, fold
Flop:(6.14 BB, 2 players) 9 4 Q Hero checks, CO bets 2.86 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, CO calls 5.14 BB
Turn:(22.14 BB, 2 players) A Hero bets 6.97 BB, CO calls 6.97 BB
River:(36.07 BB, 2 players) A Hero bets 11.49 BB, CO raises to 44.95 BB, fold
CO wins 57.68 BB
H6: vs reg that plays in the same pool as I do since 16z, I like his play, was kinda surprised to see how loose he was OTT, imo it's a very good exploit to float light OTT vs people that are super wide OTT and will likely x/f a lot OTR. Vs that I think my best strat would be to continue a lot OTR, as well as play a tighter strat OTF/OTT. Used to fold a lot here
Also think q9 is a fairly trivial river fold, just call 9x which unblocks his bluffs, now you block both straight and flushdraws
yeah, I think that vs an opponent that is calling OTT with a reasonable range, we have to x/f this, but guy was fighting a lot OTT, he has a 25% turn fold vs me so far, so I thought he was more likely to be wide in there and be exploiting me. Also he has a lot of diamond draws(which he probably doesn't care about bluffing with, by looking at his blockers).
I'm trying to be more stationy OTR too, it's a part of the game that will always be my nemesis, lol.
1.) too much SD here to overbet (rather use overs that dont have Ax) and def not a great combo to do it. We use small sizing on flop to get value, we got our value on flop now check turn and get to SD.
3.) This is a slam dunk 3b preflop...unless there's the biggest whales in the blinds just 3b here. Standard call. Think you see small size and think you have to raise every hand with SD for equity protection, looks like you're misapplying it in a few cases. Also would snap you on river as well
4.) River too thin IMO. Think about how narrow his range is after he calls turn OB. His turn call is probably losing, but he may have a read you're overbluffing significantly and it's ok.
5.) Actually don't think flop C/R is the worst, not sure you were doing it with a plan in mind thoughs. PIO does use a small sizing on a lot of flush completing turns but would probably just check here.
Thanks, man!
H3) Yeah, you're right, a lot of the time I think small sizing = range bet, which is wrong, villain was quite tight pre-flop, so don't like going that thin with 88, even vs a 20% RFI is it any good to 3-bet 88?
went overboard OTR with my raise, gotta quit making those super unbalanced overbets vs some people.
H4) yeah, was super in doubt about jamming river, it was b vs b and there was a flush draw OTT, so thought villain would call lighter. As an exploit, is it decent? Or should I expect people to overfold OTR even b vs b?
H5) my reason for x/r OTF is because I'm checking range, so I'm valuebetting AQ+ and need some bluffs, AK has decent equity vs his calling range and plays some turns pretty well.
Thanks, man!
H3) Yeah, you're right, a lot of the time I think small sizing = range bet, which is wrong, villain was quite tight pre-flop, so don't like going that thin with 88, even vs a 20% RFI is it any good to 3-bet 88?
went overboard OTR with my raise, gotta quit making those super unbalanced overbets vs some people.
H4) yeah, was super in doubt about jamming river, it was b vs b and there was a flush draw OTT, so thought villain would call lighter. As an exploit, is it decent? Or should I expect people to overfold OTR even b vs b?
H5) my reason for x/r OTF is because I'm checking range, so I'm valuebetting AQ+ and need some bluffs, AK has decent equity vs his calling range and plays some turns pretty well.
3.) I would stick to a general strategy and not deviate off of it too much, I personally play 3b or fold. But pretty much would never cold call CO vs BU, as you're going to get squeezed too often.
Yes 20% is tight for CO (he did open J7ss so may not be huge sample) but 3b just way better than calling. You deny a ton of equity when he folds, and if he calls we still are in position with a good hand. If he 4bets we can comfortably fold vs this villain.
4.) I'm only jamming here vs fish/whales tbh, would need strong read to do it vs. regs who are for sure overfolding here at 200z.
5.) Q94 FD is definitely not a range check FWIW. But AK with bdfd is definitely a fine c/r some of the time, so looks like your thought process if good with this one
A wise man once said. ''All good things come to an end''. Time to cash out and buy more magic cards Rapid.
Nice to see you're still drinking that Brazilian ocean water.
I will only cashout to get more coaching from brokenstars. I will keep playing, even if I have to move back to 50z I will keep doing my best, wont give up!!!
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U suck so hard. Overthinking. Paranoid is just one level of your brain.
Stupid! Is another! 50k hands Max and u know the game. 1 million hands to show results given stacke. You are a born loser sad to say this. So slow.
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