and i dont think i ever saw you play much above 500nl just another fact marticm
well if you had a 5/6bb winrate at 500z at the time + rb , you would be making more per year than most HS regs
i've became unknown after the rakeback cuts , and stopped playing stars, but i play from 1k to 5k , and a lot of heads up , i will play 500nl if games are good , theres no egos ..
but yeah , i dont know who you are , and you know who i am , if you play up to 1k , pm me , i would be more than happy to play you uno a uno
this is the style of coaching im referring to and which you see nearly everywhere
i have coached from 50/100 people over my career , i invite anyone that i've coached to give their opinion about my coaching methods , and i invite anyone that i coached to shine in to say they didnt improve or didnt like my methods
ps: im not promoting coaching , cause i dont have time for it anymore
so when i say you talking nonsense i can back it up
yeah nice that you are accomplished, im not saying that all coaches/coaching is bad, i have some suspicions on some coaches / but am not an expert on that area and also trying to form a better understanding of poker myself all the time
not interest in playing good players but thx for offer
as far as I'm aware, even detox pushes GTO frameworks but incorporate database analysis exploits in their strategies to make sure they're exploiting recreational players, I don't think there are any good players including martim who think that making exploits is bad but that's not at all what rapidesh is doing here, he is not going off of MDA results of his pool or anything like that, he's just clicking buttons and playing according to his biases
and was not intention to question your coaching martim and i only have played a bit w you back in the day at stars but dont personally know you and haven't had arguments w you so saying i hide behind a new nick is a bit of a shoot to the dark
all i feel is maybe your bit full of yourself , thinkign you told rapi to quit poker and explain it by counter psychology but imo. its your just egoism , telling to a fish he is a fish and should quit poker is not like a very high lvl advice or something to be particularly excited / proud of but whatever
if you think it turns things around to him by all means then , lol
Last edited by Mike Haven; 09-12-2023 at 11:20 AM.
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Honestly, I think Martim is totally correct.
I would guess that I’m a similar age as Rapi, work a full time job, 40 hrs a week, shiftwork so it’s always changing my schedule. Also have a son who I’m with as much as possible.
I still manage to easily play 20-25k hands a month, while playing 100% reg tables 0% zoom at 100nl, and I find this volume completely manageable on a consistent basis honestly.
A player being honest with himself wouldn’t talk that talk while playing 10k hands a week and clearly not studying much, or at all.
of course he is right but being right doesn't mean it is constructive / advisable to just say he should quit we have to say more than that
rather look and try to ask why he is unproductive and fools himself with poker
as he explained he is excused to not work because salaries and opportunities are too low for engineering in Brazil , which I think is a mega lie / excuse
only by putting himself out he could interfere w women find a gf , stop hanging w losers playing some nerd games , those wont get you anywhere
rapi needs to start seeing some girl(s) , paid not paid doesn't matter just stop wanking and get rid of bad friends , then find a job , then keep 25nl / 50nl as a hobby thats what normal people do
theres not a single street well played + not a single correct size used in these hands...
show me a straight up green line graph with a high winrate , and maybe i could get behind hand 4
I'm beating the games by almost 6bb over the last year (lost a big part of my database):
What is a "correct sizing"? You know you can make pretty much any sizing scheme work, as long as you study it right. Also some sizings are more incentivized vs certain populations and specific players, exploits and ranges. Sure, I don't overbet much, I'm starting to do it more recently since I've came back to studying pio, but sizings alone aren't a good indicative of a good player, I think range construction is way more important. Sure, they both go hand in hand, but one could be playing insanely bad with the right sizings and one could play some well constructed ranges with non-optimal sizings.
Just look at this specific hand as an example, completely wrong if you take pio into account, but I had my reasons to play like this vs this guy (he snap called otr fwiw)
I agree that I should put more volume, I'm doing my best to increase it and it's my main goal right now, not giving up ever man
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Originally Posted by MartimC
its not hard to study BVB ranges , and understand why 97s is not a hand you wanna 3bet preflop . im not hurting his ego dw, stop crying.. for someone who really wants to make it , you would assume they would at least have studied pre flop ranges and 3b sizings
97s is definitely a 3-bet in the games I play, actually you can 3-bet 72o BB vs SB in the micros, even with the overcalls pre, high rake, you make a lot running people over with aggression, they don't 4-bet enough too. I quit doing that, but it's good practice to 3-bet looser than monker BB vs SB imo, obv vs strong opponents it's not a good idea, specially on stars, on bodog you mix yourself in the player pool.
Your game is all over the place how many people have to tell you that
With A9 hand you know its some linear playing whale so you start with the linear raise then turn you then like decide its no longer the nuts with A9 so you like pot-control check then river then rep polar feel like a genius only reason you could ever deviate this far and it still is like super unnecessary and extreme is if you play with an absolute whale and if that would be the case you should go for a 3 street value play on brick turn
When your raising flop your POLARIZING your range on AK6 your at huge range DISADVANTAGE so your barely having any raises and you raise merged with that hand
All the hands are clicking buttons and playing like a fish / donk , you would get an insta fish / donk tag if we would play a hand
You play like this bcz not knowing how is the base line in each spot if you would have good base line then you would see really rarely reasons to deviate on something that is just super basic like AK6 you don't wanna raise linear because its super random button clicking
You have to be really good and have looked deeply at the spot and understand play on turn / river to be willing to start raise linear when being at range disadvantage in first place I dont see it ever happen by good players
Exploit level would be to bluff there w flop raise (w some selective hand choices) as oop likely throws a range bet , needs to defend **** ton in theory over-folds to raise probably . But linear raise turn check then river overbet , ...
playing w intuition clicking buttons
Ok , what i wrote is like the old-school thought process based on not looking at solver at all
I did run a sim and due to ranges being super wide bvb nut advantage plays lower role than what it mostly plays so there is actually room to make some moves if want to get tricky
like trying to get 2.5 streets of value
I would never try though , seems scary , no clue how to play when not really having the range to do something like what you did
Like I'm thinking already A) what to do v flop 3bet (I dont know) B) what to do on bad turn cards going check check facing river bets (I dont know) C) What to do turn going check check facing river jams when betting (I dont know)
So if you play with someone bad you can be able to answer intuitively like about 50% of these in your favour but I doubt its enough to lift the EV of a play like this being higher EV play than baseline play that minimizes your mistakes
rough estimations but its the root reason on why playing randomly leads to playing like a fish
and the amount of thought you waste each time you do these
Call flop, bet turn 75% vs check bet brick river , waste 0 effort to think non essential things
Last edited by Mike Haven; 09-12-2023 at 11:11 AM.
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You play like this bcz not knowing how is the base line in each spot if you would have good base line then you would see really rarely reasons to deviate on something that is just super basic like AK6 you don't wanna raise linear because its super random button clicking
You have to be really good and have looked deeply at the spot and understand play on turn / river to be willing to start raise linear when being at range disadvantage in first place I dont see it ever happen by good players
I'm pretty sure pio raises flop man, wtf
It's std to have some A9/AT in our raising range, we need get some value from 6x/Kx, just because villain has AK/AA/KK that we don't have it doesn't mean we have to play like he always has it, it's sb vs bb and ranges are wide.
I'm pretty sure pio raises flop man, wtf
It's std to have some A9/AT in our raising range, we need get some value from 6x/Kx, just because villain has AK/AA/KK that we don't have it doesn't mean we have to play like he always has it, it's sb vs bb and ranges are wide.
Villain was a reg btw
Your right 100% on this , Ive logged 500k hands at mid-stakes this year so far and cant remember having been raised on any board like this bvb so far , it just never happens and it would not really cross my mind doing it (not saying its bad)
idk man. i think martim gave the best advice in the thread about quitting tbh. you just seem to care more about owning people and making sick plays and protecting your ego then actually grinding and getting better.
SO EPIC TO SEE YOU HERE, NOT SURE WHY YOU'RE NOT USING CAPS LOCK LOL!
thanks a lot man, I won't quit, I'm 100% sure I will make it in poker, got some groundbreaking news, in the right time I will reveal them.
It's funny at how "obvious" it is for the people here that I should quit. Everyone has a bad stretch from time to time, it happens, in my case sure that a lot was on me with low volume, but lost 13k with btc last year and everyone who comes here sees "lol, rapidesh123 still at nl25 quit poker".
bad stretches is included in the estimate of taking 2-3 years from micros to mid-high stakes
I mean I just feel like the results you had are a reflection of your motivation, maybe poker is just not your path buddy, you’d likely thrive a lot more in something else
the only thing I could MAYBE see working out is you joining a CFP with a MDA model and be coachable, don’t argue against the data and execute, and well put in respectable volume, 40k hands is fine when you play high stakes, its not really when you play nl25
Just look at this specific hand as an example, completely wrong if you take pio into account, but I had my reasons to play like this vs this guy (he snap called otr fwiw)
I don't really understand what are you trying to prove with this hand. Everyone can cherry-pick scenarios where their bluffs work. Now post the ones where you got called or shoved on by better Ax/2P OTR 4/5ths of the time.
That being said, none of the hands posted in the last few pages (didn't bother to read further back) seem to be played particularly well. It's a little bit like Paisting's thread where instead of posting a bad beat after bad beat, hero posts all these soul-reads where the only explanation is "I had a reason for doing so" without seemingly experiencing any cognitive dissonance about the reality.
idk. personally i think you dont put in volume bc of fear of failure and jeopardizing your image of yourself as a great 200nl level (w/e the fk this means) player. just no way you're going to make it in a competitive environment if youre not obsessed
i hope u do it though, i enjoy your writing and i find some of the hands you post interesting
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SO EPIC TO SEE YOU HERE, NOT SURE WHY YOU'RE NOT USING CAPS LOCK LOL!
thanks a lot man, I won't quit, I'm 100% sure I will make it in poker, got some groundbreaking news, in the right time I will reveal them.
It's funny at how "obvious" it is for the people here that I should quit. Everyone has a bad stretch from time to time, it happens, in my case sure that a lot was on me with low volume, but lost 13k with btc last year and everyone who comes here sees "lol, rapidesh123 still at nl25 quit poker".
I'm sure I will make it to high stakes!
VAAAAMOOOOO
You already quit and just don’t realize it. You’re playing some of the lowest stakes available and have put in the bare minimum effort. You’re not serious, which is fine, just call a spade a spade. You’re a rec.