God it’s funny these micro grinders berating a crusher for even wasting 5 minutes of his time by providing some insight on what to change. I swear this younger generation are so arrogant and know it all.

Be humble, shut your mouths and open your ears. This will help with poker and life.

Gl


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Ah I done ****ed up. Everyone defending his logic pretzel. My bad.

fwiw that was me being veeeerrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy powered down. So relatively that wasnt abrasive at all.

My bad. It is your thread. I want to apologize. I just got ultra-triggered by the reverse uno I was about to call an ambulance.

ill explain , i barely coach nowadays , and clearly you never gonna be competition for me, but fayth already summed it up ..

i said 3/4 hours of pio a day for the sake of 'i need to study more' is a banana logic approach , you gonna run 1m different flops and expect to remember it in game ?

you simply just open 25nl, play , take notes of hands , once you reach a few hands , stop, open pio, hand is still very clear in your head , and it'll be way easier to understand , and you didnt know what to do in the spot

for the most part disregard 3bet pots , dont wanna waste too much time on those , as the edges are really slim, SRPs is where you wanna waste your time , esp when you're BTNvsBB or COvsBB, this is where you wanna know all the boards , all the correct strategies , how many sizes you can use , how aggressive you can be , and automatically your brain will start nodelocking in the future

OOP as BB is also important , but theres so much room to exploit IP , i really dont understand what you on about , you can kill these games by knowing how to study , and knowing which spots bring the most ev and more winrate , easy difference between a 0bb rate and a 3/4bb winrate

i dont blame your logic or OPs logic , since instagram, 2p2 , whatever are packed with 'v good coaching ' with very selective sample graphs , and advice like this , its just sad that people end up spending up to 1k to get coached by regs that are not even winning , just to get a course , its simply a scam

i've done coaching for 7/8 years , i've coached many guys that are now top players , and i used to get a lot of people that came up from those types of cfp courses , and the info given is absolutely terrible .. all these stables , and marketing , and people that were never really good at poker , winning millions cause they ran hot in a private live game , or guys that pour water over your head and ramble something in gibberish and charge you over 2k$ to let you know that '**** gto' and know they're making more millions out of a plain scam

the point that you need solvers to beat the games goes along with '**** gto' , if you have a strong hand theres really no -ev decisions , you just lose minimal ev between several different strategies that can be suboptimal , the point of '**** gto' is that i guess theres some folds you can make that the solver wont do in EQ, and thats a big ev shift , but we all know that , this is just pure propaganda to try and sell **** that everyone knows already, and then yeah.. when you have a good bluffing hand , or a strong hand , or a good bluffcatcher , just play it fancy, something a solver would still do at very low frequency, meaning its really really close ev, and claim that you're an exploitative master

lol

K bitches. Send me your thanks. I just got this guy who I dont even know (Schrodinger's cat lvl of logic being defended - but easy assumption that the simping shows he is a high tier player) to provide a rough rough rough draft of a doctoral thesis in poker pedagogical optimization.

He went from this

To the above post.

You're welcome everyone.

I was playing 4d chess the entire time.

I dont know anyone in the thread but this must be a post in stickies

Rapi if you feel your good enough but lacking the bankroll to play higher i'd suggest changing sites for a bit.

Party poker is super soft at 25 and 50nl. Like I don't study at all basically and am beat 25nl for 12bb/100 and 50nl for just under 10bb/100

Yes you dont have a hud and the software is iffy but could be a plan for a month or 2 to get yourself a bankroll

since I started poker in 2006 and interacting with various poker players online, I've never seen someone as resistant to advices as you are, it's literally like everything being said to you, whether nice or not is an attack on your person

?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????

Am I dreaming? I am being psychoanalyzed in someone else's pgc for being resistant and feeling personally attacked by advice given to someone else.

I'm truly a monster. The mother of Krakens.

God help us all.

exactly

Thanks a lot for posting, MartimC, really good to see a top player giving free advice, you're very cool.

I just don't get it when you said srps contribute more for the winrate than 3bps, you're saying that it happens on a reg vs reg scenario? Like, when 2 players study a lot, 3bp are so simple and straightforward to play and there are fewer mistakes to be made?

because of the sheer volume of single raised pots you play compared to 3bet pots and 4bet pots

that

August update

Ran bad, but I'm happy with my volume, specially with the study, studied a lot and took poker way more serious this month, cut a lot of distractions and meeting my friends less often, playing less magic and diablo 2, sad that I had 2 shots at 50 zone and they went badly. Btw, moved to reg tables, they're more profitable and fun, I play better in those games too.

Month's graph:




NL25 reg tables so far (nice redline btw, just going more aggro in some spots, bluffing more):




Some hands:

H1: good blockers, I like this one

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 159.2 BB
BTN: 155.36 BB
SB: 100.4 BB
Hero (BB): 98.6 BB
UTG: 96 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7 9

fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) A 7 Q
SB checks, Hero bets 5 BB, SB calls 5 BB

Turn: (28 BB, 2 players) T
SB checks, Hero bets 19.96 BB, SB calls 19.96 BB

River: (67.92 BB, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets 64.64 BB and is all-in, fold




H2: turn it's a check vs anyone competent, but vs fish on that specific board with many draws(which I block a lot, and it sucks, but it is less relevant because the fish will be wide) I will have a good amount of check-calls OTR on bricks that will do well, I will hit sometimes and win the pot, I think it's a decent play mostly because fish don't valuebet thin enough OTR

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): 103.64 BB
CO: 63.84 BB
BTN: 104.52 BB
SB: 174.52 BB
BB: 178.8 BB
UTG: 100.44 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1.4 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.8 BB) Hero has 8 8

fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (9.8 BB, 2 players) K 3 T
Hero bets 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB

Turn: (13.8 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 9.84 BB, CO calls 9.84 BB

River: (33.48 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, CO bets 23.88 BB, Hero calls 23.88 BB




H3: very easy to overdo here, but I like doing it with this hand

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 115.96 BB
BTN: 135.92 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 102.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8 T

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.4 BB, 2 players) 5 7 3
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (6.4 BB, 2 players) 2
BB bets 4.56 BB, Hero calls 4.56 BB

River: (15.52 BB, 2 players) 5
BB bets 12.08 BB, Hero raises to 41.28 BB, fold



vamoooooo

your deeper dude more room for mistakes by someone and ranges can be all over the place completely so more wiggle room to do stuff right.

so glad i found this thread

GL

thats just sample , you dont wanna have a positive redline at 25nl in this day and age , at high rake and no rakeback

you're clearly a b/e'ish reg at 25nlz, and a possible decent winner at 25nl reg tables ..

40k hands a month , for someone who really wants to make it , its just you lying to yourself..

i was banging 100k+ hhs per month on reg tables till i moved up to 200nl , and still finding time to review every single hand i wasn't sure about , and fk me if i was having a losing month , i would go up to 150khhs till i was winning, + in uni

you just dont have the motivation , you're bad at listening , and pbb not talented enough for this specific game , not saying you're not smart, just that this game isn't for you , and you're losing a lot of time of your life on smtg that its not gonna work

sorry mate, but its time to quit

I think it would be more helpful if you point a few mistakes in hhs to give him an example. You take time to post anyway. I agree with MartimC though, 40k hands when you try to make it is not a volume, triple it while studying otherwise you will not go anywhere

theres not a single street well played + not a single correct size used in these hands...

show me a straight up green line graph with a high winrate , and maybe i could get behind hand 4

martim who are you to tell anyone they should quit , maybe your putting personal frustrations to other people think you didn't made it quite as far as you wanted and just seek validation by posting of personal accomplishments which have like next to nothing to do with rapidesh thread / journey as people have different capacities and abilities ...

maybe its your time to quit martim bro

yeah just hide behind a new account .. classic

no idea what you on about talking about frustrations and validation seeking , i havent posted any personal accomplishments in years, im doing fine dw. all i mentioned was volume ...

yeah i gave valuable advice in this thread , im entitled to my opinion , people do what they want , it can also be used as a way to improve to prove someone wrong ..

just your regular comment 'keep it up gl , its gonna work' na , not like this, its possible tho , just some strong words sometimes can change your mentality towards smtg,
im posting cause OP used to post on my thread regularly , and i've seen him around for years , and i know hes not gonna quit just cause i said so . i've had some fascination about psychology last few years, and i've studied a lot about it , i think my words were not insulting in any way , and can even be taken as a challenge , but like this , its for sure not gonna work

its not hard to study BVB ranges , and understand why 97s is not a hand you wanna 3bet preflop . im not hurting his ego dw, stop crying.. for someone who really wants to make it , you would assume they would at least have studied pre flop ranges and 3b sizings

Ngl I felt like it was a reverse psychology "Riot Act" type speech upon first reading... Definitely some Credence to the cold, hard, truth and proving 'em wrong motivation/mentality.

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no comments on your psychology thoughts have different views on them but dont think its too valuable to dig to them

if sticking a bit more to truth of why rapi is not breaking through its quite simple to answer :
he is like any 25/50nl player having game full of leaks because he perceives poker through views that come from fishy understanding of the game , he would need coaching and lots of interaction with better players to learn about equilibrium and learn that discipline with pre-flop and postflop equals results + learning and following at least like 30 concepts and 50 sub-concepts which should come along decent coaching . now the whole game is based on button clicking that gets justified by creativity / emotional perceptions ("against anyone competent this would be like this but against fish blockers are like this blablabla" ) this is how to think like a fish and he is clearly also victim of these Rng clickign "gto coaches" who emphasize randomizing and blockers that are like very secondary concepts (primary concepts to think are like how is someones range and what kinds of range it makes sense to play in each spot and what sizing is good and why?)

Not to mention pot-odds and implied odds

I pay attention to implied odds a lot and to relative handstrenght

who does even talk of these concepts? Next to no one. But these are the things , pot odds, implied odds should dictate your game , GTO / MDF based style of playing is a burning of money if not playing high-stakes top tier opponents

If playing 100nl/200nl what are the mistakes the regs make mostly?

Not giving a **** about their relative handstrenght not caring / understnading if a spot is bluffed or not but just clicking call or whatever the solver tells to do , just being brain dead basically

so how can 50nl / 25nl be so hard?

its because of being brain dead and complicating it by overthinking when supposed to dumb yourself down to win money

i can agree with being a victim of following non winning players advice , or winning players that know exactly what they are doing , and say that they are not following gto, just to build a brand , but i addressed that already in this thread

other than that your words look like some copy paste from an instagram coaching page, i dont even understand where you're trying to get , pot odds are what dictates gto , and OP is for sure not playing in EQ , its not that hard to see , and he shouldnt anyway

the big difference between 25nl and 100nl is simply rake lol

'Not giving a fu-ck about their relative handstrenght not caring / understnading if a spot is bluffed or not but just clicking call or whatever the solver tells to do , just being brain dead basically' what?? you cant be brain dead if you're a 100nl winning reg, and this is a classic flawed argument .. all of this that you mentioned , if followed correctly, its gonna lead to 0ev spots , they wont affect your winrate , despite of what you think , these regs that you're trying to mention , they are just not following gto/mdf/eq , they over call cause of hand strenght , if they were following MDF they wouldnt make massive -ev calls

you're just compiling complicated words without making any sense

gto is the way to win , mdf is gto vs perfect play, where you cant win

gto depends on who you're playing against , classic misconception

'GTO / MDF based style of playing is a burning of money if not playing high-stakes top tier opponents' this just proves that you have no idea what you're talking about , every single HS reg tries to get one over the next reg , by improving their gto strategies vs x opponent , which means exploiting .. theres a **** ton of exploiting going on at HS, its still gto..

but being delusional , and thinking you're that much better than population , leads to playing hands like the ones above , which you end up blaming on variance , or player pool , you just can win in this day and age playing hands like that

97s never a 3b preflop, sizing is suboptimal , esp at this depth, flop sizing is bad , turn barrel is bad , river shove is ok pbb a 0ev bluff, doesnt make up for 3 -ev streets tho
88 yeah , i can see what op is doing, but this is not how you play poker , its bad
T8s, i dont think i have to comment on that one , this is legit live poker fish play, pbb hard to find a worse hand to do this with

theres just simply no arguments against these hands , this is not an attempt to not follow gto, this is thinking you're better than what you are , and that you can get away with -ev decisions on every street, even if this a very calculated exploit with T8s , this is just the win every pot syndrome 'cause i'm exploiting his turn sizing' .. dont have to win every hand..

i play up to 1knl (not on pokerstars though) ((and win with a very nice winrate))

i dont understand you martim

poker is very simple to me and I keep playing games where it is that way

apparently your using gto as a definition of perfect play vs strategy of each opponent apparently (which should always be exploitative style of playing) when I do use it as definition of MDF style approach which it by my understanding by most coaches has been for ages : if you go run-it-once and watch Sauce123 saying he will play as close to "gto" as possible it means to him he doesn't overfold vs fish but makes horrible calls to "not be exploited" by mimicking solver outputs and speaking of them at end of each video

this is the style of coaching im referring to and which you see nearly everywhere

and i dont think i ever saw you play much above 500nl just another fact marticm

described style of playing leads to low winrate not real "0ev" sitautions - perhaps you dont understand these things and therefore never really made it to high-stakes which is what pissed you w my comment in first place

Hjellen, this isn't rapid's first PGC thread. Here's the first which spans five years where he learns pretty much nothing. It's clear that MartimC's advice to quit is good for rapid. Rapid has made very little to no progress in 8 years and still has aspirations of being a pro despite not putting in the bare minimum effort to be a solid winner at 25nl.