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09-23-2014 , 06:10 PM
I am considering moving out of the country to play on poker stars and go for SNE 4 tabling 100NL zoom 8 hrs a day. I currently play full-time on U.S sites and I wanted to get some opinions about how much harder the competition is on Stars compared to U.S sites. I realize it will be tougher, but I am already a winning player at 30$ per hour 4 tabling fast poker at 100NL from the U.S. Does my goal sound realistic? 100k would be a huge boost to my roll obviously and will make up for the slight win rate drop
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09-23-2014 , 06:18 PM
At 100nl there really isn't that much of a skill difference, people say 1-2 stakes, but rec players are similar and the bad regs are just a different kind of bad.

Even 4tabling all day wouldn't get you SNE this year, so I assume you're planning a little in the future. I'd advise just trying to get better, build your roll if you haven't already and maybe make the chase at 200nl where you won't have to live at your desk.

fyi 200z is much, much tougher than anything you'd be used to though.

gl


Edit- also knowing your sample size would help, also even though this is tech the challenge and goals section, this isn't really the place to ask questions about goals or challenges
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09-23-2014 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Doge2016
At 100nl there really isn't that much of a skill difference, people say 1-2 stakes, but rec players are similar and the bad regs are just a different kind of bad.

Even 4tabling all day wouldn't get you SNE this year, so I assume you're planning a little in the future. I'd advise just trying to get better, build your roll if you haven't already and maybe make the chase at 200nl where you won't have to live at your desk.

fyi 200z is much, much tougher than anything you'd be used to though.

gl


Edit- also knowing your sample size would help, also even though this is tech the challenge and goals section, this isn't really the place to ask questions about goals or challenges
Okay I wasn't really sure where to put it, thanks for the reply man.....my poker roll is at 10k so I would have 100buyins, this is separate from the money I have to pay rent to give you a better idea of my situation. Also I don't mind "living at my desk" for a year if thats what it takes to get SNE. It seems like it would be worth it rather than spend 8 hours a day trying to build up a bigger role......basically what I am saying is I will be playing 8 hours a day regardless, that is something I don't want to do forever, but since I am I figure why not just gogogo for it?
The competition is the only real uncertainty that I have.
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09-23-2014 , 07:08 PM
you aren't going to be able to get anywhere near sne playing 8 hours a day 4 tabling 100nl zoom
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09-23-2014 , 07:21 PM
You need 3, 317, 281 hands at 100 zoom. My advice move up and learn the game beter than trying to achieve sne. Yes it worth 110k, yes I had it pre bf and myself going for it 2015 but please atleast do the work needed to complete such a hard task. Many people try and fail and ruin there career and poker dream. If you have been putting in 8-10 hrs without fail for last year or so no matter the swings that occur go ahead your ready and gl. But you still going to need to breakeven at 200 to have a chance and the player pool are going to be much tougher than bovadas. Not trying to put you down just really want you to open your eyes and to fully think of the decision. My read is you have been playing for a few years and your under 21. Take your roll and keep improving and never give up. Gl sir
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09-23-2014 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTyman9
you aren't going to be able to get anywhere near sne playing 8 hours a day 4 tabling 100nl zoom
I just checked the calculator on the site and it says that I would????? i think you may be wrong
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09-23-2014 , 09:03 PM
Also something to think about, even if I fail and have to drop down, with my volume I would still make super Nova which is 80k in itself. I understand the concern about getting better and moving up, but I never said I wasn't going to work on my game. I am going to a lot as well but with out the moving up part. It isn't crazy to play 1 stake for a whole year especially if you going for SNE in my opinion. Thanks for the answers though guys, I know its hard for you guys to give make an accurate assumption about me and then respond........but I am 21, hungry, and willing to put in the hours.
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09-23-2014 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkcore
I just checked the calculator on the site and it says that I would????? i think you may be wrong
Their calc has issues. The likelihood that you are going to be able to accomplish sne at only 100nl and that you will be able to play breakeven or better poker is insanely slim. Don't want to discourage you from setting high goals but many before you have tried and failed. Even mixing 100nl/200nl the majority have failed. Just make sure you know what you are getting yourself into before you move somewhere to do this.
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09-23-2014 , 09:17 PM
Follow your dreams. Travel.

The grass is definitely greener outside the US (for online poker, the rest you will find out yourself).

Playing on US sites is crazy (its ok as a calculated risk-reward). Those sites could go broke/ be shut down every day. Sure it's worth it, but you gotta add it as a cost of doing business and addtional competitive disadvantage.
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09-23-2014 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkcore
with my volume I would still make super Nova which is 80k in itself



You do realize to get anywhere close to this it would be 8 hours/day every single day, regardless of lineup etc, sounds suicidal. The thought of leaving your hometown to a foreign location(have you put any thought into where yet?), to not interact with anyone new(I don't think you'd have the chance) and just grind poker sounds seriously depressing and unhealthy.

If you're rolled etc just move to somewhere awesome and grind regular hours, the profits and roll will come with it, fwiw Im not saying to not work hard, just saying it will be super +lifeev to enjoy your youthful years.
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09-23-2014 , 09:30 PM
And supernova far from 80k sir
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09-23-2014 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by game2eazy
And supernova far from 80k sir
I don't get what you mean? I just punched in 8 hours a day .5 .1 on poker stars zoom and it equals 80k supernova, not elite
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09-23-2014 , 09:52 PM
Yes it get you 81k per month in VPP at 6 max, which falls short of the 1 million VPP you need. It only gives you
972k vpp

Money wise it equates to 78k

However you would be playing 365 days which is just insane.
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09-23-2014 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by huddlehound1
Yes it get you 81k per month in VPP at 6 max, which falls short of the 1 million VPP you need. It only gives you 972k vpp

However you would be playing 365 days which is just insane.
It seems doable to me. My main question is lets say I am there for three months and decide to call it quits. Would I get SN for 3months and they pay monthly, or do you have to wait until the full 12 months to get the cash bonuses?
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09-23-2014 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkcore
It seems doable to me. My main question is lets say I am there for three months and decide to call it quits. Would I get SN for 3months and they pay monthly, or do you have to wait until the full 12 months to get the cash bonuses?
You would achieve SN status and it would equate to roughly 16k in bonuses including FPP.

The rakeback pays on a basis of rewards earned and FPPS spent

Your rewards would be approx 3800 and your FPP spend at optimum rates would be approx 12800.

Not being funny but the fact you are asking these questions tells me you have not looked in to it properly
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09-23-2014 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by huddlehound1
You would achieve SN status and it would equate to roughly 16k in bonuses including FPP.

The rakeback pays on a basis of rewards earned and FPPS spent

Your rewards would be approx 3800 and your FPP spend at optimum rates would be approx 12800.

Not being funny but the fact you are asking these questions tells me you have not looked in to it properly
I am asking questions and researching now. Like I said before this is for 2015 not right now......thanks for the tips
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09-23-2014 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTyman9
Their calc has issues. The likelihood that you are going to be able to accomplish sne at only 100nl and that you will be able to play breakeven or better poker is insanely slim. Don't want to discourage you from setting high goals but many before you have tried and failed. Even mixing 100nl/200nl the majority have failed. Just make sure you know what you are getting yourself into before you move somewhere to do this.
Ya I appreciate your honesty and being up front that is what I want to know. I am on this forum to ask questions, I am by no means saying I can do it I just thought it would be something I can do hours wise. The rest I am very uncertain about which is why I ask the question.
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09-23-2014 , 11:16 PM
IF you are going to try it, I would suggest moving now, start with 1 table of 100NL zoom and play during the hours you would be playing in 2015. Once you are an established winner, add a table and play for another month. Rinse, repeat and work your way up to 4 tables. After a few months you should have a good idea if it's sustainable.
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