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02-24-2023 , 12:46 PM
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02-24-2023 , 01:21 PM
post link please rise and fall poker documentary
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02-24-2023 , 01:33 PM
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post link please rise and fall poker documentary
If you search it on YouTube it’s first result.
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02-24-2023 , 01:38 PM
I wanted to share one ridiculous hand from a double board bomb pot.

$600 max 2/2…

$20 7 ways

($140)
Board 1: K78hh
Board 2: K56dd

We look at …. KQ5K !! Double top set !

I leads $120, call, call, and short stack allin for $260… awesome cause betting reopens and we shove for $535….

Tank call from MP and call from CO for less.

1600 total with 2 sides….

Board 1: runs out K789 hhh 7!!
Board 2: runs out K65dd 5 !! A

Double second nut full houses and we scoop !
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03-01-2023 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by daveMASS
One note I forgot to mention in the last post..... I do feel I have taken a big step in my macro level thinking of poker. My ability to detach from the current hand and think about how that hand is such an overall larger piece of the whole pie.

These two questions have helped me tremendously !

1. How does playing this hand either help me or set me back in terms of my overall goals in life and both poker. Does playing this hand in this way help me move forward in terms of EV ?

2. Am I playing in a non-optimal way that is basically a slap in the face to past versions of myself that worked hard to achieve what I have that allowed me to be in this spot in the first place ?

Cheers !
Was going back through my updates from at this time last year... feel like my headspace goes through similar ebbs and flows each year during the winter months. Read this post and it really helped to remind myself what the overall macro is ! Had a tough end to the month in February and lost about half of my profit to finish up just about 1k over 54 hours.
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10-23-2023 , 11:02 PM
Have recommitted to playing poker for ~~ half my income. Been a solid start to this renewed journey as up about $2,090 so far this month.

$2,468/ 23 hours live
$-378/ 8 hours online

Overall profit $63,391 over last ~4 years

Cheers to being back at it
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10-25-2023 , 07:23 PM
Welcome Back! Have you been playing much?
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10-28-2023 , 10:09 PM
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Welcome Back! Have you been playing much?
Thanks a lot ! Yeah been getting back at itÂ…. Played ten live sessions this month. Made $1648/36 hours. Won first 7 sessions of the month and lost the final 3.

Felt sort of upstuck in a macro sense for the month, which was not the best feeling and I think that feeling snuck into my play a bit on my 9th session … had a spot that I could have taken a lower variance route and decided instead to jamÂ….

This time of year I do find discipline to be more challengingÂ…. Doing things to address that off the felt. Meditating more regularly and challenging myself in the gym to get back to progress > just maintenance.

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11-20-2023 , 10:03 PM
The run of card dead has continued. We have really not been in high value spots lately… which happens. Was running really well for a bit in the early fall getting back into it so it was always going to regress to the mean.

As far as New England poker goes for PLO, Chasers and Encore are both really popular while I’ve heard Foxwoods and Gate Casino ( formerly Billiards) have really not been running good PLO consistently.

Being intentional about staying positive and playing each hand as an individual entity. Played today and had a small losing session where we just couldn’t find value. Will give it another go tmrw and let’s run it up !
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12-10-2023 , 01:48 AM
Just about 100 hours in to live play in fall.

ItÂ’s been whackyÂ… won 8 sessions in a rowÂ…. Lost the next 10 out of 12Â…. And now we have won the 6 out of 7.

$2,376 / 96 hours

Some quick hitter hands:

1. 9875sscc (1k) open to 20 MP1 6 callers.

(125) 1065r check, we check, CO player bets 125, call and we call.

(500) 10654r we lead 500, call and fold.

(1500) 10654J we shove his last 200 he folds set.

2. J772ss (2k) we call $15 light running hot in same session as above. 5 players.

A74hh (75) SB (500) leads 75, call, call, and we just pot it since AA seems unlikely as CO who initially raised flats and doubt SB has themÂ…. SB reships for like 475 total so it doesnÂ’t reopen pot. Both other players fold and we obviously call.

(1175) A74J3Â… he has bottom set and we win

3. AK109cc (1k) open to $25 MP, 3 calls.

(100) QJ5 we lead 50, HJ, min raises to 100, SB callsÂ…. we elect to pot it hereÂ… hands so big that def merit to taking a great price on turnÂ… but also like we can get 2 pair hands to fold and we are flipping against a setÂ…. Anyway we shove and BOTH call. They each have a bit lessÂ….

(1800) (400) QJ510QÂ…. Ugh we lose to 55Q8 and other had A1092 with backdoor flush draw, so we got 400 side pot back.

5. AAQ4hhdd open to $20 in UTG1 (1200) 6 callers.

(120) A92r checks thru
(120) A927cc BB bets 50, we make it 235, button flats and BB flats.
(835) A9272 BB checks, we bet 375, button calls, and BB makes a good fold with A2ccxx. (1585) we take it down against 77xx

6. Q9A9cc (1k) we open to $25 at a loose must move game from CO, 3 calls.

(100) J94r SB (440) leads 50, MP calls and we make it 250, SB reships and MP calls allin for just about ~440 and we call as well.

(1420) J94K6 Â… we show AQ99 and win verus J94 SB and 10854 MPÂ….

7. AA52ccdd (800) Button makes it $20, we call and BB call.

AK10cc (60) checks to button, makes it 60, call and call.

AK108cc (240) checks to button makes it 240, we call and happy to see BB calls too, given our hand is second nuts with redraw to nut flush/ we want to boat upÂ… an extra call is welcomed

(960) we think what a monster hand this is letÂ’s find a board changing riverÂ…

AK108Q LOLÂ… I mean what a run out, an offsuit Q. I check, BB checks, and then the button I sense frustration and he checks. BB says set of kings and I canÂ’t believe but we take this one down. Button said he was bluffing river on non board changing cardsÂ… I believe him and I woulda had to fold.

ItÂ’s an interesting hand. Our hand is so good thereÂ’s some merit to raising flopÂ… but on the other hand that folds out so many hands we have dominated when board texture changes.

7. QQJJcc (1k) open to 25 CO,3 calls.

AJ7hh (100) checks to us we bet 80, one call last to act in MP.

(260) AJ79hh he ships 250Â… we end up calling cause he can make some splashy plays and even against 10-8 we are still 25% getting 33% to callÂ… so when we are behind we not giving up much but there are plenty of times we are 70-30+ here.

(760) AJ793, we win against 9786

8. 10785ccss call $10 (1800) CO 7 ways

643cc ($75) MP makes it $75, we make it $300, button flats ($850), everyone else fold.

($750) 6439ccc not the card we wanted to see unless it was clear freeroll spotÂ… especially being oopÂ… we check and he essentially shoves, $750 with $100 behindÂ…

So this is a spot I think where having played a lot of online 6max sort of hurts me. Like there wouldnÂ’t be a flatting in this spot online with pure naked Ace high flush draw hands. The hands we would run into would be like A564cc or A78xcc. Ace high flush draw plus hands. And truthfully most of them wouldnÂ’t want to be pot on the turn. Even like A944ccÂ… like youÂ’d either size down or check.

So naturally IÂ’m sort of skeptical when he shoves turn hereÂ… cause IÂ’ve basically announced I flopped but straightÂ….

Like itÂ’s objectively an amazing spot to shove a naked set here.

I end up folding cause unlike online I just donÂ’t think thereÂ’s enough hands that donÂ’t have us at 0% equity to play a $2200 handÂ…. I think he was the SB but another player at table said he folded 75Â… so thatÂ’s kind of a bummer if we folded out the hand we wanted to freeroll anyways.

Interesting spot, given its live 2-2 I think itÂ’s the right fold


Anyways those are some quick hitting hands from those 100ish hours.

Some macro thoughts are I was playing around with the PLO mastermind preflop trainerÂ… it always enforces to me how like meh pure Axxx high card hands one suit do against an EP raise when youÂ’re EP/ MPÂ… ItÂ’s a few obvious factors like card removal and being OOP against calls behind/ those early raises are strong value hands always from computerÂ… but it does get you thinkingÂ… like give me K654 double suited on the button all day over AQ103 one suit in MP when UTG raisesÂ…

AnywaysÂ… thatÂ’s it for tonight. Cheers
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12-11-2023 , 11:08 AM
What do you think about Ben Patrick aka The Kneesovertoesguy?
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12-13-2023 , 07:46 AM
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What do you think about Ben Patrick aka The Kneesovertoesguy?
It is sort of extreme on the micro level but I find some of his macro ideas interesting. Most of my training methods are based on low risk/ high reward exercises due to the clients I have. Fitness is important to challenge the status quo; if we did not do that we would all still be doing step aerobics and losing bone density versus lifting weights to build it.

I was having my clients do deadbugs over situps for years, that is a great example of an exercise that challenged the status quo in a more intelligent low risk/ high reward way, I do not have a physical therapy background as I was in business school at Umass Amherst for undergrad so my knowledge is somewhat capped.
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12-13-2023 , 07:57 AM
Played one of the most whacky sessions ever on Monday. I played a 10 hour session, and did not win a single hand until the 6:03 mark. In like 1500 hours of omaha live play it was the coldest I have ever run, I would take cold over run bad all day; because we got in for $1920 in 1k max 2-2 and were able to sneak out after 10 hours for a $177 profit.

One thing I have not written about in awhile is how I split my equity with a close friend of mine. It is something I have done for awhile. Basically every 50 hours I take 70% of my winnings and he takes 30%, unless I won promotions in that period, in which case I immediately pocket 50% of any promotional money. If I have a losing 50 hour block I eat 60% of the losses and he takes on the other 40%. Still taking 50% of any promotions even in a losing 50 hour block.

It has been such a win/win for both of us over the last 3 years because he has made a lot of passive income, while I have had a huge buffer on my downswings. Any figures I list in here are my net winnings, so the location I play my most poker at, I have gone $37,731/1194 hours, and so in reality I have grossed closer to $50ishK over that time span. All of this coming at 2-2 $5 bring in $1k max.

I am very blessed cause we trust each other 110% and it is also nice to have teammate in poker, as it can get lonely during times.
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12-13-2023 , 10:41 AM
Hey man, I read your Blog and it seems like youre quite knowledgeable regarding PLO in 2023.

So I want to pick your brain with some questions if thats ok?

I just started playing poker again (can only play online) as a hobby but of course I want to make some profit too.

Right now I have a bankroll around 380$ on ACR. (Only site I will be playing on for the time being.)

My thought process was playing NLH MTTs until I hit 1000 or 2000$ and then start playing PLO cash games starting at the micros with PLO5 or PLO10.

Now what Im asking myself is as follows:

Does this plan make sense or is it better to grind MTTs until I hit 5k to start with PLO50 because of the rake or does it even make more sense starting playing PLO now in the micros, so PLO2, to learn the game?

I mean on the one hand micro stakes should be beatable and is probably good to learn the game but on the other hand I'm afraid of the rake being way to high to make it beatable.

I don't have alot of experiance so I'm very interested in your opinion on that matter.

Thank you very much and have a nice day my friend!
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12-15-2023 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by maxendio
Hey man, I read your Blog and it seems like youre quite knowledgeable regarding PLO in 2023.

So I want to pick your brain with some questions if thats ok?

I just started playing poker again (can only play online) as a hobby but of course I want to make some profit too.

Right now I have a bankroll around 380$ on ACR. (Only site I will be playing on for the time being.)

My thought process was playing NLH MTTs until I hit 1000 or 2000$ and then start playing PLO cash games starting at the micros with PLO5 or PLO10.

Now what Im asking myself is as follows:

Does this plan make sense or is it better to grind MTTs until I hit 5k to start with PLO50 because of the rake or does it even make more sense starting playing PLO now in the micros, so PLO2, to learn the game?

I mean on the one hand micro stakes should be beatable and is probably good to learn the game but on the other hand I'm afraid of the rake being way to high to make it beatable.

I don't have alot of experiance so I'm very interested in your opinion on that matter.

Thank you very much and have a nice day my friend!
Hey man

So a lot to unpack on your question. First of all I’ll say I have zero experience with online NLH tourneys, haven’t played one in years.

As far as the rake question, I don’t know what it is on ACR but I know that the higher rake environments on like PokerBros have made the bigger clubs borderline unbeatable at low stakes because most of the splashy players have left. My win rate is on pokerbros is down about 90% over a decent sample size recently, playing in the same games I was doing very well in for 2 years or so when clubs were newer. Playing with all rocks in high rake environment is a tough spot. I essentially use pokerbros as a way to get repetitions nowadays.

I feel like you want to be fluid and adaptive with what you decide to do. Like if you start with the MTTs and you don’t feel like there’s an edge, I would quickly pivot to PLO. I would also check some other threads in 2+2 because I am sure there is some great info out there that may help guide your decision on which is softer.

Anyways, always fun to get back in the poker streets after some time off and hope you crush it !
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12-18-2023 , 04:00 AM
Thanks man!!

Good luck on your journey I will be reading and good luck at the tables!
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01-01-2024 , 01:53 PM
Had a good December volume wise, played 74 hours total. Played 16 live sessions. Was in the green 11/16. Was having a bigger month and then ran a little bad at the end, lost 4 out of the last 5 sessions, including a 2.2k pot allin with top set, which is PLO, but that swing obviously changed the results of December.

Anyways, 74 hours/ $1551 gross profit.

Had an absolute bink with sports betting player props. I don’t bet huge usually and stick with player props and fantasy/ DFS. Up just under $3k those 3 things combined over the last 4 years.

Anyways cheers to the new year !

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01-01-2024 , 02:30 PM
Typo in the last post, $1550 was net profit.

I guess Jan 1 as good as time ever for net profit chart post.

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01-09-2024 , 03:22 PM
Been a tough 2 weeks poker wise.

Couldn’t hold up with top set in two back to back spots 2k+ pots.

QQ97 on Q102ss, gii on flop for around 2.3k and we run into KJJ9ss against a more aggressive opponent and lose on a Q1027A runout. We are actually a slight underdog on this flop so it is what it is.

AAK9ccss on AQ85ddcc we get it in 3 ways and can’t hold on a river 2. Run into K345dd back door wheel, they were short stacked but he took the $1400 main, thankfully we got the side pot back which was $600 given the 2 was offsuit but still tough.

So yeah definitely happens but 4k in pots at 2-2, with the nut top set over a 2 week span is a big swing obviously. Starting the month down $700 and last month we hit $3k up and finished it with half of that. Happens.

Ran super well again in sports betting/ daily fantasy. Didn’t make a wager/ lineup entry for over $50 ( besides a hedge ) and made $2850 in an 8 day span. Posted the 95-1 earlier but hit a 44-1, 55-1 and 57-1 on week 18 Sunday.

The thesis is simple, the DraftKings alt lines for rec/rush for certain boom/ bust players are too low. I have been finding lines that are almost double the payout on DK versus FD.

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01-09-2024 , 08:13 PM
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Nice hits on DK dude!
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01-23-2024 , 12:54 PM
Been sick the last 2 weeks or so so haven’t gotten into the poker rooms.

Fortunately we stayed extremely hot on our thesis of build a bunch of parlays with high ceiling WRs against Lions/ Rams… especially when they play each other !



Been a wild run, three of those from divisional weekend. Mason Rudolph being +900 and +800 were lines I snagged even after the news of the game being postponed to Monday. The line closed at +380 so massive value for us.

Then we hit a 168-1 off a bonus bet again using Mike Evans versus Lions as one of the 5-1, and Lamar’s 5-1 was too low and pounced on that.

Starting to feel a bit better and planning on seeing some flops this week.
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