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06-23-2022 , 07:39 PM
Forced a session in after a 6 hour AM work shift and bad sleep…. and it was a bad one. Played not so great and ran bad…. couple that in with having tough spots whilst playing mediocre and we lost just over a full buyin.

We actually coulda been stacked our second buyin with AQ34dd on J52r 7dd…. But we managed to find a check back against 77 and river was a 7…. The hand probably was a bet on the turn/ knowing the opponent hes check raising my 225 into 300 bet and we 40/60 underdog for 1700 and lose … so we got fortunate there really

Macro level…. Never get unnecessarily stuck in a “bad” game that you’re unsure you can get unstuck from… pretty basic yet good advice that I did not take today.

Frustrated with myself, forced volume in today and got stuck in a bad game that wasn’t super EV… also makes me nervous for what summer PLO is going to look like in New England with Encore expanding hours ( but still terrible EV w/ $10 rake )…. Yelp
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07-06-2022 , 09:17 AM
Have not played live poker for two weeks due to enjoying the summer and weekend trips.

Grateful for the balance I have in life.

Have been thinking about the next chapter a lot in my career, in person fitness training has such a ceiling to it that you really need to find a way to run something to make above average $$$

Booked a Tampa trip with 2 buddies for early August, so that will mean a few sessions at HardRock Tampa… been my most successful and favorite poker room to play in !

Planning on getting in two sessions this weekend of live, need to get volume up for financial reasons as I am essentially relying on half my yearly income from poker.
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07-06-2022 , 09:19 AM


How the chart looks over 2489 hours of live and online
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07-07-2022 , 06:28 AM
I'm subbing this thread as well. Sent you a PM.
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07-07-2022 , 08:23 PM
Playing Thursday night, Friday day and Monday as of now, excited to get back into it.

At a 2/5 round of each game right now… second orbit some political jokes keep getting made that I don’t agree with…. So I took a second… took a mental lap and asked myself… do I come to the poker room to have ridiculous debates or come here to play cards from a place of mindfulness

Mindfulness won !
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07-08-2022 , 12:01 AM
To follow up: we switched from the 2/5 mix game to the PLO game.

It was a decent game for a Thursday night…

Finished up +517 (+309) for roll purposes…

The most interesting spot:

1.KK97ccc, call $15 on the button (1k) from MP open…. 6 ways

(100) K83cc flop top set and flush draw with 3 clubs… checks to CO (1.5k) who is someone I’ve played with a lot, he leads pot…. I elect to call for a few reasons, mainly a raise turns hand face up a bit, and it’s going to be very easy to raise allin on any turn bet ( outside of one of the 8 clubs ). One other caller behind (1k)

(400) K839ccdd… checks to me unfortunately, at this point with a double flush draw and a more connected board we elect to size up and bet pot and both fold.

Feeling motivated to get back to the card room a lot in the next few days, and it felt good to be present.
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07-08-2022 , 11:22 PM
Played again today… tough result we finished -1155 (-690) over 6 hours.

Made a small mistake overplaying a two pair that was super naked and had poor robust equity… was trying to maximize fold equity with QQ102 on 1029cc. We check raised flop to 125 from 25/45 bet from SB…. got cold called from aggro MP and original raisor jammed short stack 235 to us… getting 6:1 ish and we lost 250 with a hand we shoulda folded pre and definitely overplayed looking for fold equity on flop… ( or go heads up versus short stack) turn Ac bringing in the flush draw and we had to fold to a bet of 200….

Another misplayed hand happened early… the result wouldn’t have changed but it was misplayed

We open 1.1k J1089dd from CO and get 4 calls.

(105) 8410dd, SB (360) who is a very tight reg leads out pot, folds to us and we are heads up… this should be a shove IMO cause his range is a ton of naked 44 and we have that crushed equity wise…. If a diamond turn comes or a Q/7 he’s tight enough to fold naked 44… anyways we flat. Turn (315) 4810 Kddss, he shoves for 255, we call and rivers an Ace and he shows AQhh44 to scooo (825)… We were 62% on flop and 42% on turn.

Couldn’t really make a hand rest of day and was at a table where money was moving a good amount. Disappointing result but felt good about playing live back to back days.
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07-09-2022 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by daveMASS

Made a small mistake overplaying a two pair that was super naked and had poor robust equity
Top and bottom pair is always tough to play! How do you think you should have played it?
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07-11-2022 , 12:53 AM
subd interesting thread. if u dont mind my asking op what sites online? whats ur usernames? how often do u play at parx and ac? im a nj online grinder myself. gl
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07-12-2022 , 10:39 AM
We managed to get some good volume in this weekend. Played 5 sessions total and most of them being of the shorter variety.

7/7: 3 hours +310
7/8: 5 hours -692
7/10: 2 hours +192
7/11: 2 hours in AM bad game -153
7/11: 4 hours in the PM +1

Those $$$ values are reflected with my 60% of myself so for example the -692 was really -1155 and the +310 was really +517 in gross dollars. For anyone new to reading along I have a 60/40 staking deal that turns into 70/30 during 50 hour winning periods ( for live play only)

The last session last night was a wild one, we got into the game for $1780. 4 interesting hands

1. AKQ10dd on button (800), very aggro table with some thinking players… CO opens to 30 over a few limps, we 3! to 115, SB cold calls, and CO 4! to 480Â…. He is a strong player and his range is 90% AAxx here so we end up folding. We did see he had AAK3

2. A10Q9dd MP, (780) we open to 15, button very wild calls (2500) and BB makes it 65, we both call.

(185) J98ddh ( we flop the nut straight with nut diamonds) BB checks, we check, and button who is super aggressive checks as well. ( the goal is here to was to check/ raise button, who is betting a decent frequency)

(185) J989ddhh ( yikes ) so not the best turn but we have a 9 in our hand, BB checks we bet 60, aggressive flats and other folds.

(305) J989Qddd so we river a full house, and we have nut flush / straight. We block straight flush too. I felt we had too much of the board for value since we block all the diamond cards, so we elect to check to induce ( heÂ’s also gonna bet all his J9 anyways )… So we check, he bets 200, we snap call… And he shows QQ54hh for a higher boat… in just a wild hand. Fortunate to lose the minimum on this river as played.

3. 105AKhh, limp/ call 20 UTG (1000)… 5 ways to flop.

(105) 558cc checks to MP (650) who was original raisor he bets 40, aggro calls SB, we make it 135, MP calls and SB folds.

(385) 5589ccc ugh really gross card, he has about 550 left, checking feels like he can play perfect against us so I led 200 as a merge, was unsure what to do here… . He ends up taking a minute and folding.

4. AQJ9ccc ( the big hand !!!! )
(950) Open to 15 UTG2, 4 calls.

(75) J103ccs, I bet 75, only call is from same player as last hand, thinking player who is playing more aggro tonight.

(225) J1036ccss I check, he bets 100 leaving 345 behind. We call.

(425) J1036Accssd so red Ace

I check, he jams 345. Our hand is a pretty good bluff catcher. We block clubs unfortunately, but lower wraps missed and we have Q blocker. Jamming river with a set of 33 seems like a weird line.

I end up calling ($1115) pot and he shows 99810cc and we climb back to even.

Anyways, overall happy with getting 5 sessions in as that was my goal. The games not being great due to summer weather seems to be in full effect. Think I played decent at times but we had some tricky spots and some probably had some more optimal lines than we took. Cheers !
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07-12-2022 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CardiffGiant
Top and bottom pair is always tough to play! How do you think you should have played it?
Naked two pair from the small blind on 1092, probably a flat because the player sandwiched in between us is super sticky. The hand is really a fold pre. Probably the most misplayed hand of mine in awhile since there are so many bad turn cards and our hand is very easily dominated as well. The best part of our hand is the ability to block future straights but opponent was too short stacked for that to matter !
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07-12-2022 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by suitedandzooted
subd interesting thread. if u dont mind my asking op what sites online? whats ur usernames? how often do u play at parx and ac? im a nj online grinder myself. gl
Thanks for following !

I play only pokerbros .3/.6 in the diamond union, always buyin max for $120 so play 200BB deep

Talked about making a parx trip for many weeks last winter and never actually made my way down, based on Bravo seems like games might not be quite as booming as they were last winter. Any thoughts or insight on if it’s worth it ?
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07-12-2022 , 08:36 PM
I’ve never been in a staking deal so I’m curious how would your backer verify your winnings/losses?
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07-12-2022 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by yasuo
I’ve never been in a staking deal so I’m curious how would your backer verify your winnings/losses?
We grew up together and are very close friends. I send him hand updates and chip pics so he comes along for the ride and fun. He actually binked a tourney earlier this year for 10k at foxwoods which was insanely awesome.

It’s also not a staking deal it’s an equity deal *** should have been using that word instead. I always have 60% of my own action. He takes the other 40%.

It’s one of those things where people who know me in real life understand my character.

The arrangement probably could work in other settings for other people but there would have to be a picture system in place at minimum is my guess, it’s an interesting thought
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07-20-2022 , 08:25 AM
First half of July poker wise has been very flustering.

Total assets (cash+retirement+online poker $$) is down about 29% from my peak.

Getting stiffed for the first time on pokerbros from what was my backup club (its $240) so not a ton of $$$ but still very flustering to write it off as an L.


Life itself is really good, moving into a new townhouse that I will be renting with my GF.

Going to Vermont this weekend for a buddys bach, next weekend back to Vermont for weekend trip with GF, and then the following weekend headed to Tampa with 3 of my close buddies for a Poker/Golf trip.....

Had a hole-in-one on golf at the 4th hole at Trull Brook in Tewksbury... and have lowered my handicap to a sub 10 of 9.9.



SPARKNOTES VERSION: Summer northeast poker is quiet...... Life is good...... Net Worth is down..... GF and I moving in together..... got a hole-in one !
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07-25-2022 , 12:23 AM


Had a big session tonight… fell off the session high by a few hundred after this picture but it was a serious momentum jolt !

+1839 (1104)… bringing the profit roll within $40 of its all time high !

+++++$61,710
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07-26-2022 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by daveMASS
Thanks for following !

I play only pokerbros .3/.6 in the diamond union, always buyin max for $120 so play 200BB deep

Talked about making a parx trip for many weeks last winter and never actually made my way down, based on Bravo seems like games might not be quite as booming as they were last winter. Any thoughts or insight on if it’s worth it ?
parx always felt worth it to me but its probably 5050 to u since its a bit of a drive but at some point you should give it a shot. the one downside of parx is u have to find motel hotel rooms bc the casino doesnt have any. also tuesdays along w fri sat and sun are best days at parx. if u go to parx u might as well stop by borgata and make a few week trip out of it bc borgata is 1.2 hrs from parx and then u also have the rest of ac which all other poker rooms are soft there. borgata has soft plo parx has soft plo. they also both have soft 2 5 nlh and borgata has v soft 1 2 nlh and parx has v soft 1 2 nlh and 1 3 nlh. parx and borg seem to routinely have 2 2 plo and also 55 plo and 5 10 plo and theres a couple fish that everyone follows around a few days a week everyweek.
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08-03-2022 , 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by suitedandzooted
parx always felt worth it to me but its probably 5050 to u since its a bit of a drive but at some point you should give it a shot. the one downside of parx is u have to find motel hotel rooms bc the casino doesnt have any. also tuesdays along w fri sat and sun are best days at parx. if u go to parx u might as well stop by borgata and make a few week trip out of it bc borgata is 1.2 hrs from parx and then u also have the rest of ac which all other poker rooms are soft there. borgata has soft plo parx has soft plo. they also both have soft 2 5 nlh and borgata has v soft 1 2 nlh and parx has v soft 1 2 nlh and 1 3 nlh. parx and borg seem to routinely have 2 2 plo and also 55 plo and 5 10 plo and theres a couple fish that everyone follows around a few days a week everyweek.
Thanks for advice on Parx/Borgata.... seems like it could be a really good play to make this fall/winter. Parx seems to be the best PLO outside of New England that is within driving range for me. I am not a NL player anymore but the Parx definitely seems to have consistent PLO running when I look on Bravo !
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08-03-2022 , 06:50 AM
Headed to TAMPA on Friday for a golf/poker trip with 3 of my buddies. Very excited to hit the HardRock Tampa, probably will put my focus on 2/2 w/ rock game as that has been my most profitable location/game on a per hour basis. Up $4267 over 8 sessions.... and had my biggest ever session down there on March 21, profiting $1810 after my equity split.

Last weekend had an AWESOME trip to Okemo resort in Vermont with my GF. The ski resort was awesome and they have turned it into a great summer spot as well. We played a super nice golf course called Fox Run... went on their mountain coaster.... rode the ski lift.... ate at nice restaurants... and enjoyed some awesome quality time.

Made my first appearance at Encore Boston..... overall unimpressed. Ran pretty bad, lost a main pot and side with AA74hh versus Q296 and KKJ7hh on a q273hh board when we potted 450 on turn, both players call and river was an offsuit J... so we lost main to Q2 and lost side to KKJ7hh which we had dominated. Main was like $1500 side was like $210. Then we missed a wrap with QJ910 on 784r versus a naked 56 when we had double backdoor flush.... The rake is $10 and the room is still only open S-TH.

July was a slighly losing month, even though we put in decent volume. My attention to poker has not been great, and as I have talked about a lot in this thread prior, I have been playing golf too much and it has gotten in the way of significant poker volume. Days I do play golf I need to be better at finding time afterwards to see flops, as long as I continue to treat poker as half my income/work. Think I am up $400ish over last 90 days... yikessss
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08-03-2022 , 07:01 AM
Reposting my post from last session at Tampa on March 21 !!!

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Originally Posted by daveMASS
Had my biggest cash game session last night. Played 2/2 w/ rock, in for $1200 out for $3787.

Three big hands

1. AA54dddh, Hero (1500) opens to 30 over a blind $10, call, call, call and button makes it $155, folds to us, we repot and short stack allin for $245 and button allin for $370. We run it twice.

($ 1055) Board 1: Q84cc 8 Q
Board 2: KJ7dd810…
Button has Q7AAhh and scoops both over us and KK87sscc

2. J10Q7ss, Hero (1050) calls $50 from a blind $10 that got 3! to $50 from a aggro regular, call, and blind raisor pots it, short stack repots it, and aggro goes allin. So basically they all have anywhere from $300-$460… we are closing action for $350 more 4 ways… table is off the rails, a Kd is already a dead card…. I elect to call given the price and thinking I flop well against their hands…

($1500) K104r, last other player with chips goes allin for $60 and we call.

($1620) K104r 6cc Q

I flip Q10, other player allin with the small side with me shows a King, and then 973.. so we good there, aggro shows JJ53… still good… blind allin flips a Q…. Then 2, 5, and Ace…. So we get positive variance here and scoop a big one.

3. 9875hhdd Hero ($2100) opens to $25, 3 calls and BB ( $900) makes it $155, folds to us, we call, and one short stack allin for $145…

( $525) J88ss BB open leads for pot, we repot it, he calls….

($2015) J88ss we all decide to run it twice, which at this point I say I have an 8 and BB says you’re good… I have AA

Board 1: J88ss 2 4sss
Board 2: J88ss 5 3

Scoop both !

Overall great game, glad I elected to play the 2/2/5 given the result and just how I felt I had a greater edge in the game. Lot of positive variance can go a long way too….

Headed back to Boston, really enjoyed my trip… got in 18 holes yesterday as well, 18 w/ a cart was like $39 LOL… won’t see those prices in New England… shot a 91… bogey golf is where I’m at.

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08-10-2022 , 06:58 AM
Got back from Tampa yesterday !!! Super fun time, was able to get in 3 PLO sessions. Two of those were 2/2/$5 rock and other one was 5/5/$10 rock. The games were pretty tight at the 2/2 level.... way tighter than previous trips. The 5/5/10 was very interesting, we came to the table at about 1130pm as the game was dying down but did play a $1400 pot against one of the local pros in a standard spot. I bought into the game short stacked at 1k as it was pretty deep and it felt more advantageous than buying in for a stack that felt in no mans land.

Hero ($690) AAK6cc, 4! to 300 after a restraddle and open to $85... folds around to raisor who insta calls and is probably the more recognizable pro....

($660) Flop 974 r... he insta shoves us in... we call... probably flipping-ish or slightly worse

($1440) we run it twice....... 9742A..... (974 10 4sss)... we scoop both against QJ910... we were 46% on flop and scooped which was positive variance.

Other than that hand is was very quiet... finished up $21 over the 3 sessions.

Golf/social wise the trip was amazing. Myself and 3 childhood friends.... had an airbnb in Tampa.... golfed 72 holes...... chilled by pool.... super fun overall and great way to connect for 3.5 days.

Poker wise been thinking a lot about what how my raising range interacts with the current iteration of the player pool in PLO. The reasons you raise in live PLO are different from the reasons you raise in online PLO... just due to the fact you have almost 0 fold equity in live PLO ( at least the games I play)... meaning hands like AQQ6 with the Q6 suit are going to be more valuable to raise in 6 max online because of the fold equity and having the A blocker to protect against 3!... whereas in live PLO this hand is much more of a flop top set hand where raising preflop from certain positions doesnt make a ton of sense... because thinning the field almost hurts you.... youd rather go 6 ways than 3 ways with that hand IMO.
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08-14-2022 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by daveMASS

Poker wise been thinking a lot about what how my raising range interacts with the current iteration of the player pool in PLO. The reasons you raise in live PLO are different from the reasons you raise in online PLO... just due to the fact you have almost 0 fold equity in live PLO ( at least the games I play)... meaning hands like AQQ6 with the Q6 suit are going to be more valuable to raise in 6 max online because of the fold equity and having the A blocker to protect against 3!... whereas in live PLO this hand is much more of a flop top set hand where raising preflop from certain positions doesnt make a ton of sense... because thinning the field almost hurts you.... youd rather go 6 ways than 3 ways with that hand IMO.
this is an interesting topic. are you advocating for open limping AQQ6 type hands? live it seems like people generally aren't folding anyway, so limping/raising doesn't make a huge difference difference, other than potentially keeping the SPR lower.

limping behind vs iso raising also seems like it could have slightly different dynamics live v online. live you are getting 3! less often, so could maybe get away with iso'ing wider than you would online. but low preflop fold equity in both situations
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08-17-2022 , 06:49 AM
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this is an interesting topic. are you advocating for open limping AQQ6 type hands? live it seems like people generally aren't folding anyway, so limping/raising doesn't make a huge difference difference, other than potentially keeping the SPR lower.

limping behind vs iso raising also seems like it could have slightly different dynamics live v online. live you are getting 3! less often, so could maybe get away with iso'ing wider than you would online. but low preflop fold equity in both situations
Thanks for reading ! Yeah I would actually probably fold this from EP, and depending on the table could get behind limping it in certain games... the Ace doesn't do much for the hand value in multiway pots and our hand is not going to flop very smooth, its going to be a very polar flop ( we either flop top set or we dont)... the 6 is a dangler that doesnt interact for the wheel and we are only Q high suited.

I am guessing online (Q6QAss) is maybe a fold from UTG in 6max and open raise from other 4 positions GTO....
Online I would rather have Q6QAss but in live play I would rather have like QQ76ss if we are limiting the suits to Q6.

The hand is very reliant on flopping top set for value, therefore decreasing the number of entrants while opening yourself up to get 3! with that particular combo doesnt make a ton of sense in loose- passive live games. Position, stack size and lineup is a huge factor, I guess if we are open raising from CO or button the AQQ6 becomes superior even in live because the odds of multiway is decreased.

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08-17-2022 , 07:09 AM
Is the Tampa Hard Rock still double-raking in the 2/2/5 if you choose to run it twice? I haven't played there in over 6 months but last I knew there was a $5 rake plus $2 jackpot drop and in the raked games if you wanted to run it twice they took an additional $5 out of the pot, so $12 gets pulled out!
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02-24-2023 , 12:42 PM
What’s up 2+2, been about 6 months since I posted.

Had a pretty solid football season and profited about $3k ish. Had a 90-1 bet on the exact SB outcome being Bills to beat Eagles. Was able to use Caesar’s NY free bet to bet $1250 to win $3937 on Bengals as a hedge in AFC Div.

Up about $2601 in PLO to start the year. More of that in live than online.

Life balance has improved, working about 24 hours a week and have had one of my better winters mentally.

Pretty wild up about $66,929 total in the last 3.5 years. Watched that rise and fall poker documentary. Wondering if anyone else did.

Feel blessed that poker has been kind to me, and that even when it hasn’t I have had other avenues to live life by. Pokers a lot harder than it used to be no doubt.

Living with my GF has been a beautiful experience and grateful that we are coming up on 4 years together.

2 years sober, trying to put AA principles in my life on a daily basis.

Cheers to life !
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