Hi!

My name is Samuel, (but you can call me Samme) from Sweden

I'm an old texas player who just switched to PLO. Have been playing texas for about 5 years where I reached 100 nl at best.

But why did I start playing PLO?

Well I was in Malta last autumn and played mostly live. For the first few weeks it was only texas, but then I was "tricked" by a friend into playing some plo. I was then completely amazed at how bad people were at plo. I felt like a shark which is crazy considering I have no experience whatsoever with plo.

So when I came home to Sweden, I felt why not learn a little plo. So I have just bought the course "From the ground up, Plo edition" at RIO and now I intend to start playing and studying as much as I can.

During the fall I only worked with Poker and Sports Betting (Sports betting was my main income). But now that I want to learn how to play PLO, I'm going to live only on sports betting during the spring.

I've started this thread mainly because I'm a pretty introverted person which means that I unfortunately don't know that many people in the poker world (the few I know only play texas). So hopefully I'll be able to get to know more people and hopefully get some tips on how to improve my game.

My goals:

- 20k hands/month.
- 20 hours of study/month
- Update graph every Sunday
- Share 5-10 hands/week
- Have a specific goal/week. (a goal now in the beginning might be, what hands should I open in EP and MP)

I've just started playing 10 pl and I'll continue to do so for a while. I have a bankroll so I can play much higher but I don't see any point in it because I don't know how to play PLO right now

Just write if you have any questions

Here comes my graph from Januari 1

My main goal for this week, is to learn which hands i should open from EP and MP. I open way to tight right now so will try fix this leak during the week

GL, subbed. Which tool do you use to train your opening ranges? You mentioned Rio, does that mean you have Vision? Otherwise I can also recommend PLO Trainer from Mastermind.

Hi, thanks for the sub! For now i dont use any preflop tool.
However, it is something that I will acquire shortly. I will probably get the RIO Vison and test it for 7 days, if I like it I will continue with it, otherwise I will try Jnandez PLO trainerThanks for the tips!

No problem. Please note that Nandez' Skills trainer is free of charge for the preflop trainings, which are probably the most vital to get solid at. I heard good things about Vision, all in all both are exceptional tools.

I haven't played that much since the update and probably won't be more during the week due to illness:/

All right. Here are 2 hands that I'm quite unsure about how to play, so feel free to give me constructive criticism


Hand 1
PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

andi11555 (BB): 48.2 BB
tzambar (UTG): 62.3 BB
CrazyCitize (MP): 173.1 BB
Budesonid (CO): 103.3 BB
syndikat999 (BTN): 131.6 BB
Theflamingswede (SB): 126.7 BB

Theflamingswede posts SB 0.5 BB, andi11555 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Theflamingswede has J Q J K

tzambar raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Theflamingswede calls 3 BB, andi11555 calls 2.5 BB

Flop: (10.5 BB, 3 players) J 7 5
Theflamingswede checks, andi11555 checks, tzambar bets 5.1 BB, Theflamingswede raises to 25.4 BB, fold, tzambar raises to 58.8 BB and is all-in, Theflamingswede calls 33.4 BB

Turn: (128.1 BB, 2 players) 6

River: (128.1 BB, 2 players) A

Theflamingswede wins 122.7 BB

Should i X/R on the flop and if so to how much?


Hand 2

PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

viviivi (BB): 150.6 BB
zampana (UTG): 96 BB
marumit (MP): 136.9 BB
syndikat999 (CO): 103.9 BB
Theflamingswede (BTN): 101.1 BB
Henry XIV (SB): 108.1 BB

Henry XIV posts SB 0.5 BB, viviivi posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Theflamingswede has 7 A A 5

fold, marumit calls 1 BB, fold, Theflamingswede raises to 4.5 BB, fold, fold, marumit calls 3.5 BB

Flop: (10.5 BB, 2 players) 9 6 4
marumit checks, Theflamingswede bets 5.1 BB, marumit calls 5.1 BB

Turn: (20.7 BB, 2 players) 4
marumit checks, Theflamingswede bets 10 BB, marumit raises to 20 BB, Theflamingswede calls 10 BB

River: (60.7 BB, 2 players) 2
marumit bets 33 BB, fold

marumit wins 58.1 BB

It feels supernitty to fold here, but does he have any bluffs? What do you guys think about the sizings on the flop and turn?

Lycka till. You are nordic so you automatically have atleast 5bb edge in PLO

Tackar! I hope so

Okay here comes the graph

Didn't play anything between Thursday-Saturday due to illness. Tested a session today, and I think I'll be able to grind on as usual tomorrow

Also this week I will aim to improve my RFI in EP.

It has been an educational week. The result may not be the best but I don't give a damn about that considering that I only focus on developing. I've played a number of interesting hands that you're welcome to give some opinions on.

This week there will be no Poker for me Wednesday-Saturday, so the volume will suffer.

The goals for the week:

- 4 k Hands
- 3 h Study
- Continue to focus on RFI in EP, but also start to look at MP

Hand: 1

PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MeLikeSpring (BTN): 116.6 BB
seba6953 (SB): 109.8 BB
ThrewItAway (BB): 278 BB
Theflamingswede (UTG): 162.7 BB
menarrem (MP): 117.1 BB
R0ckettes (CO): 70.8 BB

seba6953 posts SB 0.5 BB, ThrewItAway posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Theflamingswede has 5 8 7 6

Theflamingswede raises to 3.5 BB, menarrem calls 3.5 BB, R0ckettes raises to 15.5 BB, MeLikeSpring calls 15.5 BB, seba6953 calls 15 BB, ThrewItAway calls 14.5 BB, Theflamingswede raises to 96.5 BB, fold, R0ckettes calls 55.3 BB and is all-in, MeLikeSpring raises to 116.6 BB and is all-in, fold, ThrewItAway raises to 278 BB and is all-in, Theflamingswede calls 66.2 BB and is all-in

Flop: (531.8 BB, 4 players) Q 4 3

Turn: (531.8 BB, 4 players) 9

River: (531.8 BB, 4 players) A

MeLikeSpring wins 424.6 BB
ThrewItAway wins 92.2 BB

I think I'm in a very good position to Re-Raisa here considering that there is so much dead money in the pot. But I don't know if it's a good thing that I'm doing this move considering that I'm deepstacked. What do you guys/girls think?

Hand 2

PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

cprovazi (CO): 142 BB
sent13nce (BTN): 336.5 BB
Dedé80 (SB): 246.8 BB
Theflamingswede (BB): 115.3 BB
gremiopirata (UTG): 95.3 BB
zopyrik88 (MP): 87.5 BB

Dedé80 posts SB 0.5 BB, Theflamingswede posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Theflamingswede has A K 6 A

fold, zopyrik88 raises to 3.5 BB, cprovazi calls 3.5 BB, fold, Dedé80 raises to 15 BB, Theflamingswede raises to 52 BB, zopyrik88 calls 48.5 BB, cprovazi calls 48.5 BB, Dedé80 calls 37 BB

Flop: (208 BB, 4 players) 7 5 T
Dedé80 bets 194.8 BB and is all-in, Theflamingswede calls 63.3 BB and is all-in, zopyrik88 calls 35.5 BB and is all-in, cprovazi calls 90 BB and is all-in

Turn: (486.8 BB, 4 players) 3

River: (486.8 BB, 4 players) Q

Dedé80 wins 136.7 BB
zopyrik88 wins 335.1 BB

As you probably know, people on low stakes like to call But when this flop comes, do I often have the right equity to get in my last 60bb or should I just fold? I think it is a fold on this kinda board texture especially considering that I also block the Nut Flush draw. But this is something im struggeling with right now, but something I really want to learn.

Hand 3

PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Timeinabotl (BTN): 60.5 BB
GBK2009 (SB): 671.3 BB
lfc051 (BB): 354.3 BB
Theflamingswede (CO): 116.7 BB

GBK2009 posts SB 0.5 BB, lfc051 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Theflamingswede has A 4 A 9

Theflamingswede raises to 3.5 BB, fold, GBK2009 raises to 11.5 BB, lfc051 raises to 32 BB, Theflamingswede raises to 107.5 BB, GBK2009 calls 96 BB, lfc051 calls 75.5 BB

Flop: (322.5 BB, 3 players) 2 K 4
GBK2009 bets 312.5 BB, lfc051 calls 246.8 BB and is all-in, Theflamingswede calls 9.2 BB and is all-in

Turn: (825.3 BB, 3 players) J

River: (825.3 BB, 3 players) Q
GBK2009 cashed out 470.4 BB for a fee of 9.6 BB

Theflamingswede wins 340.1 BB

WTF is happening here Ofc i need to call my remaining 10 bb, but let say i have 60-70 BB behind in this situation, is this a call or fold, im blocking the Nut flush draw here to which is not good, but i atleast block a set of 4. But most likely it feels like decent players often show up with a set of kings here, but im not really sure.


Graph for this week. (Will post a montly graph later this week)

I know my redline sucks, but its not something i focus on right now, it will come later

Imo you should focus on the most common spots that happens meaning btn vs blinds and the other way around. Unless you are mastering that spot no reason to study ep rfi strategy.

Hi, thanks for your input!

I agree with you that it's important to check out common spots. However, I feel that I want to have some knowledge of the preflop game first. However, I may not need to study it super much so I agree with you on that.

Sorry for the late update...

January Graph




Decent result for being my first month i guess... Hopefully i will inprove more in February


February:

Will go to Kings of Tallinn during February 23 - March 3. Therefore i will not play any online during the end of February.
The volume will ofc not be that good , but will try to both study and play a decent amount before going to Tallinn. I will mainly play PLO-CG and some small tournaments. Will share my schedule for Tallinn when it gets closer

Goals for the month:

- 15 k Hands
- 10 hour Study
- Start to take a look in what hands that should be both 3-betting and call 3 bet. (This is a huge leak that i know about. I 3 bet way less then i should)
- Will also start to find some good "studymaterial" for live PLO. If any of you know any great videos, i would be moore then happy if you could share those (Will look at Jnandez channel)


GL this month to whoever read this

Great thread man. I'm in the same boat as you. Nice to see charts that aren't straight up and to the right

Looks like you need to work on your redline it is bleeding. I believe it is -30bb/100? It should not exceed -15bb/100 ideally.

Hi man! Thanks Good luck with your journey !

Yep! Totally agree. Allthough i think that when i get better at for example 3 bet pot i will gain a better redline automatically
I also belive that the more i play the more i will figure out population tendencies, which will make it easier to punish passive/tight players

Updated graph for February







Not a great result but I feel like I'm learning more and more every day and that what matters.


If anyone here is interested in studying together, just DM me It can be anything from hand reviews to discussing different strategies.


Here are some interesting hands from last week:

Hand 1

PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

NaturoSasuki (BB): 100 BB
Theflamingswede (UTG): 149.6 BB
cloud711 (MP): 100 BB
mal37799 (CO): 79.2 BB
RamiRami1990 (BTN): 138.8 BB
susipoo (SB): 87.6 BB

susipoo posts SB 0.5 BB, NaturoSasuki posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Theflamingswede has K 8 A A

Theflamingswede raises to 3.5 BB, cloud711 raises to 6 BB, mal37799 calls 6 BB, fold, susipoo calls 5.5 BB, fold, Theflamingswede raises to 31 BB, cloud711 calls 25 BB, fold, susipoo calls 25 BB

Flop: (100 BB, 3 players) 8 Q K
susipoo checks, Theflamingswede checks, cloud711 checks

Turn: (100 BB, 3 players) Q
susipoo bets 56.6 BB and is all-in, fold, fold

susipoo wins 95.8 BB


This is a spot with which I have a great deal of trouble. People overcall too much so even though I bet 4 I would guess that I get an average of 2 other players postflop. I was thinking about betting the flop here but since I don't block flush draw I decided to check. On the turn when SB bets, it feels like a very obvious fold, considering that I have a player to my left. What do you guys think?


Hand 2

PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

yensi.chavez (BTN): 78.5 BB
NaturoSasuki (SB): 98 BB
cloud711 (BB): 236.1 BB
Theflamingswede (UTG): 177 BB
zopyrik88 (CO): 101.2 BB

NaturoSasuki posts SB 0.5 BB, cloud711 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Theflamingswede has 4 A T K

Theflamingswede raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, NaturoSasuki raises to 11.5 BB, fold, Theflamingswede calls 8 BB

Flop: (24 BB, 2 players) 8 5 7
NaturoSasuki checks, Theflamingswede bets 7.6 BB, NaturoSasuki calls 7.6 BB

Turn: (39.2 BB, 2 players) 9
NaturoSasuki checks, Theflamingswede bets 18.8 BB, NaturoSasuki calls 18.8 BB

River: (76.8 BB, 2 players) 5
NaturoSasuki checks, Theflamingswede bets 73.5 BB, fold

Theflamingswede wins 73.5 BB


Preflop feels pretty standard. On the flop, I choose to bet. Feels like this flop hits me better than sb who 3 bet. However, I block A and K which of course is not good.
However, it feels like 9 on the turn is a good card for me since I block J10 and block 64 which of course he shouldn't have offta, like only AA64 then. On the river, I feel like I have to keep bluffing because I have no showdown value whatsoever. What do you think?

Hand 3

PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

jcdrbr (UTG): 115.6 BB
marraqueta07 (CO): 157.2 BB
DrivingDog (BTN): 100 BB
kinggeorge321 (SB): 77.9 BB
Theflamingswede (BB): 124.3 BB

kinggeorge321 posts SB 0.5 BB, Theflamingswede posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Theflamingswede has A K 5 T

fold, marraqueta07 calls 1 BB, DrivingDog raises to 4.5 BB, kinggeorge321 calls 4 BB, Theflamingswede raises to 19 BB, fold, fold, kinggeorge321 calls 14.5 BB

Flop: (43.5 BB, 2 players) Q 3 A
kinggeorge321 checks, Theflamingswede checks

Turn: (43.5 BB, 2 players) 9
kinggeorge321 checks, Theflamingswede checks

River: (43.5 BB, 2 players) 4
kinggeorge321 checks, Theflamingswede checks

kinggeorge321 wins 41.7 BB

I'm wondering if I want to turn my hand into a bluff here on the turn. When people check twice on a wetboard, it feels like you can bluff them off a lot. Feels like a bet of about 50% on the turn works very well. Should get folded by all two pair at least. I also think that some who are incredibly tight could fold sets here. What do you think about turning my hand into a bluff on the turn??


Goals for the week:

- 4 K hands. (will go to a wedding for 2 days)
- Study 5 hours
- Have fun!

you should bet your entire range on A hi board after squeezing, a lot of the hands you squeeze pre with contain AAxx , your opponent won't have it after just calling preflop. doesn't have to be a big size 1/3 is fine. you do this to deny equity/get calls from hands that are crushed and when you don't have AA to get folds from hands that have good equity vs your actual hand. you have to think about future streets too, lets say you bet A hi board and the turn pairs, you're the only player who can have Aces full and your opponent knows this too. It's range advantage and it works differently in PLO to NL

Thanks for the input, makes a lot of sense! But lets say that we are 3 players instead of 2 on this flop, do I still rangebet?

SPR ( stack 2 pot ratio ) will be a lot lower multiway so people need less equity to stack off so there will be less range betting, like most things in poker it depends on a bunch of factors ( board texture is a huge one ). For now just try and remember it for HU pots and see how your opponents react and learn from it! GL