Nobody (and i mean NOBODY) talks about their winrate in general including rakeback. If someone says they have a 10BB/100 winrate this is always gonna mean post rake and pre rakeback.

P.s. I have a brain.

I might have crossed the line when I wrote the having a brain thing, my apologies to anyone who got offended.

Ok ok no one gives winrates including rakeback. Then the only way for him to achieve 9 as he thinks he can is to not consider rake at all (isn't that graph provided by the GG software pre any rake?). Someone winning at 9 bb/100 pre anything at GG with a good RB% deal makes money in the end, and PC didn't technically lie.

I will make a very bold statement now

People will still buy his courses even if he uses this technical card in the end as an excuse. Some people will still buy them from his site (even though anyone and his grandmother and his dog know nowadays you can get most of these courses for 10-20% of the price ). So assuming the community on average is very "exploitable" doesn't seem a dumb move at all by him.

That's illegal, though, just like pirating movies and music.

this. Lots of blah blah blah but zero actual numbers.

Not enforceable. The irony is PC making an MDA based course, which is already a gray zone or worse regarding sites ToS, with fish data bear in mind, just for it to be pirated on those sites. And he wasn't even the first one both doing a similar course and having the stuff leaked.

It's not enforceable, true, but the admins of this forum (David Sklansky and Mason Malmuth) make a living off of selling books.
I don't think they want forum members to condone pirating copyrighted material in their forum.

I'm not a poker luddite, don't think training sites, book and coaching in general is a nightmarish thing and it would happen anyway, but him and others selling MDA, especially MDA regarding the player type we can't really live without. I really hope Peter and the other team who did it lose their shirts.

No one posts what these sites are, I never will. No one is selling anything here on 2p2 as far as I know, and people who post it get banned right? I'm not a cheap reseller, just mentioned it as I actually like PC being punished for making an actual unethical course and profiting from it. Karma hahah

He's the kind of person to only show the results if they're good, and if he's breakeven or losing pretend the challenge never existed or come up with a hundred excuses to anyone asking rather than accept he's just not that good at poker

Rake on GG is literally so absurd that you basically have to talk in terms of rakeback. I paid 8bb/100 at 200nl, at 100 it's probably 10 or more.

Otherwise everyone's winrate is -2 to 2bb/100

Well then you say my wr is on the negative side but I make money post bonuses.

How other coaches who play on GG advertise their results? The few I looked at usually post the graph with the post-RB line showing, always. People won't make any coaching/course deal with you if you can only post a losing/breakeven graph as advertising, even if you come with the context of why this is the case.

Lol at saying your wr is X , whilst including your rakeback deal within that.

You say your actual win rate, then say but with rakeback it’s more like… X

Pretty funny that coaches are doing the former

Pete is getting some hate in here, whether it’s deserved idk.

He seems reasonable from what I’ve watched of him.

It will take him years to get his sample though. On a few YT vids he will play 2 tables of zoom for like 30 mins to get some content and that’ll be him done playing poker for the next 30 days.

To say he’s doing the challenge etc then just go quiet and I presume play virtually 0 volume is a bit of a BS move

yes, and offering coaching newbies while not being able to beat game is a SCAM

that guy charge 316$ per hour, while his hourly playing is like 20$.

Well, if you charge someone 316$ per hour and teach him how to make like 20$ a hour that's not a bad thing tho, only if he can do that

Has no one had the bright idea to just check on smarthand to see if he's even playing

statname is broken for this username: https://statname.net/?playerid=642507541

I thought statname tracked only regular tables, at all sites.

Go have a word with Jared Tendler.

lol no, not a scam. In the case of Peter, you have youtube, RIO, FTGU, his books, people vouching for him, lots of resources to judge. Ok ok you said newbie. A newbie who moved up thru 2nl and 5nl with decent winrates without rushing too much, let's say at least 50k hands in both limits and no less than 5 bb/100, if not lazy, has the intellectual building and the knowledge of how poker training works to go seek and judge by himself. A newbie who is a loser at those limits has no business looking for a coach yet, too expensive and he may be on the % of population who doesn't even have it in himself to beat any poker game.

Hell maybe even 10nl you must be able to beat by yourself and by looking for resources without anyone guiding you.

$316/hr for coaching is insane from a low stakes grinder

It is a mad amount of money for someone to charge when they have displayed no ability to beat current games

That's the thing though, you can get most of his insight for $50 via FTGU course. That's not to knock the course, it's what made me a winning player in the first place, and it's fantastic for beginners, but 300$/hr is the range where you can start to afford high stakes players who are at the top of the modern game, and not someone who is primarily oriented to low/midstakes. You're ultimately paying for the brand name/known quantity.