If the games are borderline (or entirely) unbeatable on GG fast, why do people play it?

Is he including rakeback and jackpots in winrate?

Where does this come from. In my pt for nl25 it shows around 7,5bb/100. For 24/20/10% 3bet. I'm even a bit up after 80k hands despite being not very good at the game.

Rakeback and leaderboards

Clarke is not playing NL25. He is playing NL100.

They are profitable post bonuses if you can play long sessions to cash lbs. Also for some that is the only site they can play. Here he is saying he can beat the games 8-9bb pre bonuses and that ain't happening.

Ok, I see. I hope he at least gives it a legitimate shot. It'll be interesting either way.

I'm starting to wonder if this is where he's going wrong 😂

Onpa ihme että suomalainen änkyttää tuollasta rallienglantia eikä tiedä mistään mistään.

imo Pete is 100% a winner in those games, but even if he's doing very well it's gonna be like 3-4bb/100. I wouldn't be surprised if even the top 100nl regs aren't beating 5bb/100. For any table of top winners for a given stake on GG that I've seen, very rarely were people getting any higher than that

The only thing I can think of is that Pete either (1) doesn't actually know how high the rake is, or (2) knows how high the rake is, but is underestimating the effect it will have on his winrate. Maybe a result of him being out of the game in a grinder sense for a while

These are the top 20 winners at 100nl over the last year on GG 100nl regular tables. As you can see, there are very few players over 150k hands with a winrate over 5bb. Keep in mind, that these guys probably table select well, and the fast fold games will be much lower EV, as the regs are fish are much tighter preflop.

I have no idea what you are saying mate.

I believe in Pete as recently he started coaching elite high stakes crushers. I think there has to be a reason for them to hire Pete?

Who?

Many examples: https://youtu.be/vbXfnBjfGS0?si=PT_Xlj23yGizTm5m

I wouldn’t call a midstakes player in the extremely soft Michigan games an “elite high stakes crusher”.

And Pete isn’t coaching him in that video but agreeing with everything he says

Only watched the first few minutes but the first hand is insane, villain must need to be bluffing every single hand in range on all 3 streets to be a winning call.

So some random dude playing fenced us markets is the definition for : recently he started coaching elite high stakes crushers. No offence but this is bit exaggeration to say the least.

This.

Yeah that is not a call unless you have some very specific reads villain can jam this here. Feels more like this "hs pro" took this hand to show how he can hero three streets against a competent reg. If he runs against a better hand don't think it ends up being in the video.

All combos of QJ, J9s and 97s are all the bluffs villain would need to make calling correct which doesn't seem unreasonable.

Of course the part they mentioned is whether or not he would also bluff AQ/AJ. That's what can make calling terrible.

You can't analyse hands like this. The idea all these bluff combos listed PURE 150% turn, then always 3x pot bluff river, never check or bluff smaller is what you are saying with this. However the value combos will take the line taken at a v high freq

The board is easy to overbluff due to how many draws were ott and that they all brick, but more in the smaller sizes and 3x pot is probably not overbluffed. And it would need to be very overbluffed for A6 to be good call, my guess is in equilibrium you need minimum a K pair to just be 0 EV.

I don't want to berate him for making a punt, we've all had them but seems like we're only seeing it because of the result and Pete goes along saying how great of a play it was

this thread is hilarious

How the **** did some guy run at over 200bb per 100 for 5k hands. That is insane heater for even 5k hands.

It might the chip dumping guy. There were some talk about that in the internet poker section. Or just a bug from statname.

8-9bb prerakeback 400k hands?
is he smoking something?
the game is definitely profitable if you get 65%+ rakeback( weekly rakeback, leaderboard, jackpot, other promos etc) and put in a lot of volume
but Im not sure anyone is winning 8-9bb prerakeback on big sample 400-500k+
if you get 0-2bb wr playing 100-150k hands/month and 65% rakeback you are doing pretty good IMO...( thats basically +100buyins/ month)

you will never get 65% rb

realistic rb is 40%

I vote for 25bb/100

jokes aside it's very hard on GG to have positive winrate after rake