He said he *might*. Or just do one at the end, hasn't decided yet. Aka waffle

Possibly, I only tuned in for a few minutes.

I find his tone rather tiring to listen to for any length of time if i'm honest.

This whole challenge honestly feels like a delaying tactic so he can say to anyone asking why he hides his results "I will share them".

In 2 years when it's done if his graph isn't that good he will hope we've forgot about it or move on to the next excuse

How many players can post a 100k+ hand graph of beating gg rush n cash at 50nl or higher for 2bb+/100 pre rakeback?

Serious question.

Peter is way better than unbearable Charlie kid who gives you breathing exercises and spicy exploits for high stakes.

Graph or it didn’t happen

I meant his coaching style he makes mistakes but he has reasonable theoretical knowledge of the game. Why people pretend that micro stakes are not beatable even with high rake,, yes you not gonna make a lot of money because your win rate will be small pre rakeback but games are very soft on GG for instance with good volume you can make decent money.

Since when is NL100 micros? No one is talking about micros being unbeateable.

Ok maybe 100NL is not micros but those stakes are very popular among recreational players, with some table selection you should be fine and beat 50NL-100NL.

How do you table select rush? And if you notoriously select reg tabels you will get eventually banned for hunting. You can make money at gg for sure but it's hard pre rb. Even at NL50 I think and 100% at NL100+. And Clarke is claiming he can make 9bb pre rb playing NL100 rush and that is not happening. Even if he can coach etc not happening. The rake is that high and players are not bad enough.

I haven't heard him say anything about 9bb win rate this is certainly not realistic pre rake back.

He mentioned it one of his youtubes. If I remember correctly it was : a modest 9bb wr.

are you aware of the PVI thing? Depending on how you play and your results, you get much less cashback than advertised...

I saw that Pete streamed for a few hours yesterday, did anyone watch it? Did he mention anything about the challenge?

No matter how well he does I would like to see his results for reasonable sample +100k hands on GG and stars. Why doesn't he introduce his most successful student who was a loser at micro stakes and now playing mid stakes that would boost his credibility. His poker course which he reminds us often is pretty expensive ~$1200 maybe is good I don't know I like some of his stuff on youtube but he's too arrogant when he says my course is astronomical I am confident it is the best in a market. well it's 30 hours compare with well respected Phil Galfond's this is PLO is over 73 hours long and mostly on HU not to mention he is in poker coaching space close to 20 years.

He wrote the following in his latest youtube video I think is valid response.

The main criticism I face in the poker world is not about my ability to teach poker; I can honestly say that I am not aware of a single instance where criticism has been about the quality of our courses, and it is rarely about my understanding of the game. The only thing I commonly see that constitutes negative feedback regarding Carrot Corner is the fact that I have not been playing much poker at all for years now and so have no recent graph of a large enough sample to qualify as proof of poker ability. Let me address this criticism now while also discussing the 100NL Challenge. I will try to be as clear and honest here about my situation as I can be. What I am about to write, I will copy and paste wherever this question comes up in future. If you see someone making the same criticism, please feel free to copy and paste this statement in response.

First off, a brief insight into my life. I run Carrot Corner as my full-time job. I work 9-5, Monday-Friday making content, teaching, and building my business. I structure my life so that I have very clear work hours and I do not play poker outside of these hours because it falls under the ‘work’ umbrella. I also teach bridge to children in schools and to adults in bridge clubs. I play bridge avidly and value time with friends and family. My fiancé (possibly wife depending on when you’re reading this) and I live on a small holding with dogs, cats, chickens, ducks, and goats and looking after the animals can be time consuming. As for work, there are lots of moving parts to my job. Carrot Corner is becoming a bigger and more successful company every day and over the last few years we have grown significantly. I never expected things to go this well and I am very grateful that we are on such an upward trajectory, but running the company is very time consuming and I'm not the sort of business owner who wants a to work a 60-hour week, and so I don't.

The following is not a brag but an explanation of why I have spent my time in the way I have over the last few years – not playing much poker. The single biggest reason for which I haven’t been putting in volume is that I make considerably more from running Carrot Corner than I could from grinding online at any commonly running stake. Had I neglected the company to grind a massive sample (and I would have had to had I wanted to do this) Carrot Corner would be nowhere near where it is today.

Does this mean that I have no credentials as a poker educator or that no one has any reason to trust that I understand the game or to purchase any of our courses or services? No, of course not, but if you think this, then that's perfectly okay. You don't need to watch the free YouTube content or buy any training content from our website or listen to any of the professional poker players who are joining our team when we launch subscription videos. Many of the professional poker players who will be teaching at Carrot Corner when we launch subscriptions are Carrot Poker School trained and have been coached by me personally. They have very impressive recent high-volume graphs because playing poker is their job and these will all be publicly available on Carrot Corner when subscriptions launch later in April 2024.

As for me, what are my credentials if they don’t come in the form of a graph? Simply, quality of training content. The YouTube channel and our course sales have both grown significantly over the last few years and from these metrics we know that people really enjoy the way I teach the game. There is a time for being humble in poker, in fact, arrogance and ego are vices poker players generally do well to avoid but let me be totally honest for a second at the risk of sounding arrogant. I back myself as an excellent teacher and I think the viewers of the YouTube channel, my private students throughout the years, and our customers at Carrot Corner would overwhelmingly agree. The Carrot Poker School course is highly praised by those who have invested in it and has turned many struggling and aspiring players' games around by giving them a complete understanding of how the game works. I have found that many winning professional poker players want to come to Carrot Corner to teach the game because they rate the quality of our poker teaching. In many peoples' opinion, The Carrot Poker School is by far the best poker course they have taken. People tell us this via the discord server all the time, often with a before and after graph which paints a clear picture about how much the course has helped them.

Now, let me discuss the 100NL challenge as it has become somewhat of a bone of contention for some, and I understand why. People are sick of challenges that never get finished and want to see someone follow through on their mission. Last November, I came up with the idea of trying to play a big sample at 100 Fast Fold to see if I could win at a big win-rate for the format. It may be that the upper limits of this are 3bb-4bb/100 as many people claim, or it may be that by playing a highly effective exploitative strategy that I can do better. I very much intend on finding time later in the year to get into the flow of putting in higher volume and to stream the challenge regularly on Twitch. While I love teaching and running the business, I want to feel like a poker player again at some point soon, but given my goals for the company, this has been impossible so far this year.

Upon reflection, it is clear to me that I should have waited until we had launched subscriptions and automated a lot more of the business before announcing that I was going to do this because putting in a big sample depends on me clearing enough availability to focus on it fully. Announcing my return to grinding volume before the company was automated enough to allow for this was a mistake, but I was excited by the prospect at the time. I am not giving up on the idea of doing this when the time is right, but I want people to understand that it can’t be my priority currently and that’s why I should have planned further ahead and waited to announce the challenge. One of my flaws in business is the tendency to sometimes make rash decisions, but I think my impulsivity is also responsible for much of the creative success Carrot Corner is experiencing in the industry. As for when I plan on sharing results publicly as proof of ability - not until the sample is large enough to be credible.

I hope that this explanation gives anyone who has doubts about me or about Carrot Corner an insight into my situation. To the haters: if you don't like the content, or don't want to purchase our courses, then I don't see the problem. If you think it’s overpriced, don’t buy it. I honestly don’t understand why this aggravates anyone. This is a free marketplace, and companies can charge whatever they want for training material. I believe The Carrot Poker School is worth every penny of the price it sells at and I would not sell it for that price if I didn’t, but you can spend your time and money wherever you want.

I'll wrap this up by stressing that when you're trying to get better at any discipline, the best people to teach you are teachers. We're taking on poker players as instructors who don't just know how to make money at the game, but also know how to teach. This is perhaps the most under-valued skill in the poker training industry, and I hope you will all see how valuable it is when you see the quality of our subscription service content.

Finally, I make a point of not hanging around poker forums and comments sections and I have found that it is better for my mental health not to read everything that is said about me on the internet even when most of that is positive. Therefore, I am going to state here that I will probably not be engaging much with responses to this post but I am very grateful to those who have supported me and Carrot Corner. It means the world to me.

He talks a good game I'll give him that. And obviously everyone who used his offerings praises him but that's just another way to promote him. Kind of waiting for him to crash and burn with this challenge because the goal 9bb pre rb is so absurd. If he can hit even that 4bb wr pre rb I will be impressed.

TL;DR

All I see is excuses.

Cliff notes: it's bad business to actually play and potentially post a losing graph.

I can't believe the world's best poker theoretic Mr. Clarke is releasing the 100NL pool from his deadly grasp.

He is clear that it's because he has chickens and dogs though. He has adult responsibilities. Definitely not because he wasn't winning. Mr. Clarke has shown mercy to the brokies and decides to let them live on for now.


It doesn't matter if he has results, because people in his discord tell him all the time he has the best material. Therefore, it is so.

Case closed and Don't you guys dare ever doubt Pete the great again.

Also I'm case you missed it, he's offered a subscription service upcoming later this year. This is the #1 subscription service in the industry, according to Mr. Clarke.

Didn’t us doubters predict this: that he would back out of the challenge and give 100 different excuses for it. Just like he did when was asked about his results at 200z


And the way to do a challenge should be to say “I’ll play X hands over X timeframe, then show the graph”. Not decide when/whether you want to show it at a point it looks best and decide there’s not enough sample to show if you’re losing. This is how all medical and scientific studies are conducted

TL;DR

He likes perfectly balanced life and doesn't want to get out of his comfort zone by extending working hours or playing poker but as he claims his teaching was so successful that his previous students already became professional poker players who are teaching at his business now with paid subscriptions and they have huge graphs to show their success

Did i miss anything?

Unreal that he wrote that up and thought it would be a good look. Hey my course is amazing and many say the best. Wow what a course they say! I wont even put in the time to play the game i claim to be an elite teacher within though, as if other players/coaches/owners of products dont also have a life that includes a few totally normal things that are definately possible to do whilst also playing a few hands of the game im a self proclaimed top tier instructor within.

Also "this is not a brag" but i make more from coaching than playing, who would have thought selling ludacris priced products to people who dont know better pays more than struggling at low stakes zoom. Had he not been so busy im sure hed be playing nosebleeds. Essentialy the reason he doesnt have any proof of results nor will he get any because it means hed have to work a little bit more than he wants to, in order to prove what is essentialy the biggest and most reasonable criticism he gets, if he was sure hed be able to bang out elite winrates that would be very good for his business surely, strange that he wouldnt think that might be wort some effort. Strange huh

Also pretty interesting he doesnt see any issues with charging what he does given his #1 selling point is he is good at teaching, according to him. He also mentions that teaching is very important as if most good/great poker coaches arent good teachers AND players...

Getting real trump vibes in the "people say", "i notice many want to come here because the quality of teaching yada yada" just a bunch of vague ridic statements, and yeah, the people who will post their results of before and after will typically not represent the average customer for obvious reasons. People may say its the best course ever, but people have alot of legitimate criticism aswell, but those "haters" are not relevant at all.

And how is it a selling point that people he has coached are going to coach on his site? Or the fact that the coaches play poker full time? That seems like a bare minimum to be hired as an instructor, esp for such an insanely high price product.

Also Einstein, criticizing your product = hater? Maybe if alot of people criticize your thing there might be something else to it other than everyone hates you, Not a great look as a coach to basically dismiss any critique as people being haters.

Yes, its a free market, you can charge whatever you like, and when you charge a price that is insanely high given your experience and level within this game you very justifiably get criticism for doing so, especially since from what i can tell your YT is mostly targeting people who are pretty new-ish to the game, i.e people who might not really understand that despite you being a self proclaimed teaching-guru, it is a ridic price point and you have very little credentials of actually doing well in poker.

The best people to teach you are teachers? Great insight, it is fwiw possible to both teach AND play this game. Thats the case with just about any good to great coach ive ever come across in poker. A saying that seems a bit more fitting here: those who cant do, teach.

Would love to hear what he thinks justifies chargin 250 ****ing pounds for a lesson with him. And any sort of explanation to how he has the nerve to call himself "one of the strongest poker theoreticians in the world". That is just a straight up lie.

idk guys, i read all that and it felt extremely reasonable to me

he didn't do himself any favors by not addressing it was wrong for him to mention a challenge without first clearly stating how long and drawn out it would be - but aside from that it's all quite rational and reasonable and feels like a solid explanation

the amount of salt dropped by 25NL net depositer mis-regs in this thread lmaooo

Agree and he seems more honest and forthright actually than other coaches. Whatever criticism you make of him he’s not pretending to be something he’s not. His business employs winning poker players as coaches so I’m not sure why he has to be the “thought expert”, hes graduated to CEO/management status and good for him.

I speculate he gets hate because of his funny mannerisms/speech/cutesiness of “carrot corner”. It’s a bit whimsical the brand (where aspiring poker players are little rabbits that log onto carrot corner to eat their carrots so they can grow into big bad poker players lol).
It’s just an easy target to pick on.