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Old 07-17-2016, 10:45 PM   #2876
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Re: Pads1161 #bracelethunting

Were you b/f or b/c on the turn with 75s on sunday grand ? ty
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Old 07-18-2016, 12:39 AM   #2877
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Came back and played shortish session tonight online. Pure bubbled $2.6k on Party, bubbled the $1k PLO, close to bubbled the $1k NL, managed to battle through though, had 2 big stacks. Deep in both 888 and Party main events. Lost KK v AK for all the chips with 50 left in the Party comp, but battled on through and won the 888 Megadeep for $20k+. Was a satisfying win, played pretty great 1 tabling for 5+ hours.

Feels good to be back.

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Old 07-20-2016, 12:41 AM   #2878
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Choosing who you live with as a poker player is really important and probably something most people don't get right. Let's say that average career of a online poker player is 5 years. If you commit to living with somebody for 1 year on a long contract then you're commiting to living with them for 20% of your career. For an industry where you really need to be happy at home and feel comfortable and relaxed it can be a huge error. Not only may you not like the guy or he disturbs your sleeping or spoils the environment that you live and work in but you can also be missing out on other people, soaking other knowledge, improving from other people and maximizing your potentially by learning from different people.

I think GTO living arrangements for a poker player is actually to live by yourself. Generally if you're living in a 2 or 3 bedroom place with a poker player they will be going in and out at different times of the day. Maybe they party on Saturday night, slam the door too loud and you wake up in the middle of the night and can't get back to sleep and then your Sunday grind is ruined. Maybe you're in a great sleeping rhythm and then they go out for Salsa night in Wednesday and wake you at 4am and then it's ****ed again. The real world lives for the weekend, generally they all share an identical rhythm throughout the week give or take 30 minutes extra in the morning and then on the weekend all hell goes on but that's expected and understood. Monday might be tough but everything is back to normal by Tuesday. With poker the one thing we really struggle to attain (I'm writing this at 6am having woken up at 4am, lol jet lag) is a routine. It's something so simple. We quit college, school, 9-5 so we don't need to have a routine. But once we are in this profession it's actually the one thing we strive for. We procrastinate in bed watching videos and reading Wikipedia and then 3 hours later ask ourselves why didn't I just sleep?

I always tell myself "it's ok, we will start again on Monday, a clean slate" I often do (I often don't aswell!) but by the next Monday usually something has came in the way to stop this rhythm. Generally living with another poker player is the most obvious reason that it does go downhill.

Another bad thing about living with poker players is you have two options. 1) live with somebody you don't really know, 2) live with somebody you know pretty well.

1- this is a potential problem for so many different and obvious reasons. Especially when you work where you live it becomes very easy to feel unhappy because of the way somebody else is. You washed all the dishes and then this mfker dirtied them? Does he have to have his music on so loud?! How can he have his pokerstars alert buttons on when I'm trying to concentrate too?! So many small and trivial things hat anybody else would think we're irrelevant but can add up.

2- this is a potential bigger problem than 1. The longer you spend with somebody the easier it is to see the worse of them. If you meet somebody 2x a week for dinner and have a great relationship then it doesn't mean you will just live together and be best of friends. Small things will start to grate on you. Once the smaller things grate on you you start to nitpick in things that don't need nitpicking. Generally things will go great at first and then slowly deteriorate over time. If you have a really good friendship with somebody then I'd advise not risking it by living together. It's not because either of you are bad people but it can just make things sour between you and regret the whole thing.


Of course there are so many great things about living with somebody who is a very good friend. I just think personally living with somebody for 1 year or 6 months that you haven't lived with before is a really dangerous thing for a poker player. If the last 4 months of a 6 month contract really effect your ability to work and maximise your potential then maybe that's 10% of your career that you've really ****ed up.

I have had on the whole great living arrangements. I've lived by myself, I've lived as a two, I've lived as a three. I think generally living in bigger groups is easier. It means you can have your own space for longer without feeling a need to socialize. It means you're seeing different and fresher faces every day and it means there's different people to learn from and to motivate. This summer I had a really great house with similar poeple, all with similar motivations and all genuinely hoping for the others to do well. That's also something that happens when you live with somebody for so long in a game controlled by variance. If you are losing and losing and losing and your friend is playing similarity or worse to you and is binking and binking and binking it's really easy to get sour, easy to get jealous and easy to funk for the deuce when your friend gets it all in pre with 80 left in the million with aces vs deuces. Previously I used to actually really struggle with this, I thought I was really a bad person for wanting my friends to sometimes lose. Of course I didn't really want them to lose, but I was just jealous of their success whilst I was failing. i read a lot about it and it's a normal expression to feel, it's just you not being able to handle your negative emotions so well. I haven't felt this way in a long time, I know deep down somewhere it's still there though and could creep back at any time.

Not sure what the point of this post is, I just started writing and speaking what is very likely a lot of nonsense. I just think that you can value studying, grinding, eating well, working out, meditating etc but imo the most important thing you can do as a poker player is have a good, healthy living arrangement that's easy to get out of if things aren't as they initially seemed.
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Old 07-20-2016, 12:52 AM   #2879
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Re: Pads1161 #bracelethunting

It's obv not 'nonsense,' and a lot of ppl def live in super -ev situations, many times just due to financial reasons or they were too lazy to look for a place on their own, w/e it might be.

If I didn't live with my current roommmate, I'd be living on my own. He's probably my best friend and living with him is super easy essentially 100% of the time.

Agree with a lot of what you say, except for the fact that living in bigger groups is easier. But also, in my situations where I've lived with multiple other people, it's been great besides the fact that I'm terrible at saying no to doing things; so I'd end up out drinking or out doing something almost every night with one/multiple roommates heh.
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Old 07-20-2016, 03:48 AM   #2880
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Re: Pads1161 #bracelethunting

agree with all the above, i guess most times just gotta learn by experience.
Ive lived with a student/horse, ive been on grinder houses for less than month but still prefer to live by myself as its more peaceful. And also the schedules, lol quit everything to live free and grind, and then its really that routine that you be needing after some time
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Old 07-20-2016, 05:05 AM   #2881
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Re: Pads1161 #bracelethunting

Yeah but also gotta remember the ultimate goal is happiness, so if living with someone is -EV for poker but +EV for happiness then who cares really
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Old 07-20-2016, 08:04 AM   #2882
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Re: Pads1161 #bracelethunting

This could also apply when someone moves in with his girl I think :P

Wise words Padsy
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Old 07-20-2016, 08:16 AM   #2883
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Re: Pads1161 #bracelethunting

You preach it gurrrrl

Truth be told most people will just have to experience the AIDS of living with somebody who is extreme -EV to live with to truly appreciate the good arrangements unless they get extremely lucky from the get go. I ve had all kinds of arrangements and finally found myself in one that's awesome which I guess took much longer than necessary but it's also helped me grow as a person. There s two sides to everything essentially. Being able to say no is very important tho
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Old 07-20-2016, 10:52 PM   #2884
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Re: Pads1161 #bracelethunting

Awesome post Pads.
I´m considering to move and that really helped!
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Old 07-21-2016, 12:19 PM   #2885
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Re: Pads1161 #bracelethunting

A contrarian view: I lived by myself for a handful of years during my career, and I'd say it's one of the biggest mistakes I made. Every time I did it I found myself falling into a deep depression. Sitting alone on the computer all day does not equal quality living. Humans are meant to have daily, regular contact with others.

Maybe it works for the more extroverted, but living alone was a huge career mistake for me. The key is to find the person or people you want live with and not settle for a bad situation.
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:04 PM   #2886
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Re: Pads1161 #bracelethunting

+1 to DoGGz. I've lived alone for 15 years. Whilst the freedom is great, the social isolation is not healthy. While it's clear that living with people you don't get on well with can be psychologically stressful, being on your own can be mentally tough too. You just have to find out what works best for you. In the final analysis, living with people you gel with is probably best of all. Humans are social animals.
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:40 PM   #2887
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A contrarian view: I lived by myself for a handful of years during my career, and I'd say it's one of the biggest mistakes I made. Every time I did it I found myself falling into a deep depression. Sitting alone on the computer all day does not equal quality living. Humans are meant to have daily, regular contact with others.

Maybe it works for the more extroverted, but living alone was a huge career mistake for me. The key is to find the person or people you want live with and not settle for a bad situation.
This.

Living alone when on a downswing can get really tough and lead to depression if you're not a super extroverted person or don't have people come over to your place very often.
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Old 07-22-2016, 11:09 AM   #2888
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I lived with a guy I didn't know for about 8 weeks, one of the only times I've lived with a poker player, and it was literally unbearable. It got to the point when we just wouldn't talk for about 5 days, and when we did we would just argue about stupid ****, and he'd hide cutlery in his cupboard that he had cleaned so I wouldn't have cutlery etc etc (naturally I just used it anyway). Can only echo what others have said and try and get to know someone before being around them 24/7.
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Old 07-22-2016, 11:36 AM   #2889
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#PrayForOP
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Old 07-22-2016, 11:48 AM   #2890
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Old 07-22-2016, 11:49 AM   #2891
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#prayforop is something I used to post in my personal PGC when not running so well, wp Blakk
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Old 07-22-2016, 11:49 AM   #2892
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I lived with a guy I didn't know for about 8 weeks, one of the only times I've lived with a poker player, and it was literally unbearable. It got to the point when we just wouldn't talk for about 5 days, and when we did we would just argue about stupid ****, and he'd hide cutlery in his cupboard that he had cleaned so I wouldn't have cutlery etc etc (naturally I just used it anyway). Can only echo what others have said and try and get to know someone before being around them 24/7.

lololol what a ****
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Old 07-22-2016, 01:09 PM   #2893
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What Gary's not telling you is he'd use the cutlery as things to squeeze his rank bum zits with, then put it immediately back in the drawer.
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Old 07-23-2016, 06:11 PM   #2894
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I lived with a guy I didn't know for about 8 weeks, one of the only times I've lived with a poker player, and it was literally unbearable. It got to the point when we just wouldn't talk for about 5 days, and when we did we would just argue about stupid ****, and he'd hide cutlery in his cupboard that he had cleaned so I wouldn't have cutlery etc etc (naturally I just used it anyway). Can only echo what others have said and try and get to know someone before being around them 24/7.

Goddamnit Linus, learn some manners
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Old 07-24-2016, 08:15 PM   #2895
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Old 07-24-2016, 11:08 PM   #2896
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Eventually didnt play tournaments all week, my body clock from jet lag was just way way too ****ed. Managed to play a full session today though.

It was kind of weird session, was 1/13 in the $2.6k on Party but basically bubbled, lost 2 crucial pot each for 3x+ average both times. I slammed my desk for the first time in a long time

Bubbled an EPT Package in a hand where villain opened bob (3 handed) 3x, i peedl qts bb. flop QJ2ss, he check call, turn 4, he check call, river QJ24T he donk shoves, I mean I obviously have to call, but he had AK and that was that.

Came 14th in the $1k on Stars AK<JJ for 500k in std spot.

Managed to win the Crocodile on 888 for $12.6k so wte, pretty happy I guess.

Tomorrow I have to do a lot of stuff including going on the Thinking Poker podcast, fixing the new Mac I bought and some last minute shopping. Tuesday I'm taking my parents to Mallorca until Sunday (obv ) should be nice to relax, can't play from Spain ofc so wont even be on the mind.
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Old 07-25-2016, 02:37 AM   #2897
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Awesome that you're going on the podcast! Love those ones
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Old 07-25-2016, 12:07 PM   #2898
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When you go to the Casino in Mallorca to play some Omaha or NL I would like to read a report about how the session went .))
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Old 07-25-2016, 05:00 PM   #2899
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This thread is actually +LifeEV, nice posts pads! Getting more and more motivated while reading your stuff. Keep it up!
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Old 07-25-2016, 07:40 PM   #2900
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How much do you have in buyins on a typical sunday these days?
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