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Old 07-11-2016, 04:25 PM   #2851
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Re: Pads1161 #bracelethunting

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Haha you crazy ****er did you get it wrong in described hh and flush got there on turn? Anyway, I like the shove quite a bit hehe. Gl at day 2
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Old 07-11-2016, 04:44 PM   #2852
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Re: Pads1161 #bracelethunting

Looking back yesterday was absolutely crazy! So many insane hands that didn't even make the blog.
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Old 07-11-2016, 06:22 PM   #2853
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Hmm k so why did you mention he sometimes snaps a4ss then?
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Old 07-11-2016, 06:39 PM   #2854
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Wug lavalee overbetting river? Seems optimistic with anything
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Old 07-11-2016, 07:44 PM   #2855
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Re: Pads1161 #bracelethunting

Wtf if flush didn't get there his line is so weird
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Old 07-11-2016, 11:32 PM   #2856
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Re: Pads1161 #bracelethunting

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Old 07-11-2016, 11:42 PM   #2857
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Re: Pads1161 #bracelethunting

River is Ts
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Old 07-13-2016, 09:23 AM   #2858
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So, bust out main event today. Obviously it's sad but it's whatever I guess.

Table was absolutely incredible, one very loose/aggro guy to direct right, one good aggro guy to direct left then all whales. Was a table where I was always going to end either chip leader or bust because of nature of the play.

Hands....

I open 98cc, co 3bets I peel we check down 734xx and he has k3o.... Ok.

Utg opens 4500 at 1k bb I peel kqdd otb.
Flop qj2 he cbets 50,000 (yes 5x pot) I fold, he shows aa

3 borderline hands

1-
Fish limps (there was 3-4 fish limping most hands...) reg isos (has been Isoing super wide) 1k-> 3200 in the cut off, I have AJo on the button and I think clearly performs better as a 3bet 140bb deep. I go 1-3.2-9.6, he calls.

953ssx
I bet 7k (AsJc) he goes 22k, I go 38k, he goes 140k.

This hand is pretty weird. We had been battling really hard (we had to because he was isoing extremely wide and raise first extremely wide. On the flop I think i shouldn't be folding but perhaps floating is better than clicking as I don't have a range to click back get in here for value and he could exploit that. I'm unsure really.

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3k Otb (1200bb). AJcc
Sb aggro kid 9.5k
I have 70k and call

Flop AT2hhxx (I ask for Ten pre flop)
He bets 6800 I call

Turn AT2Khhss (I ask for Ten on the turn)
He checks I check

River AT2K7
He bets 19k, I call.

Some friends think I should bet turn, jam river for value. I think in normal mtt it's good but here I wanted to just bet once/sometimes induce etc.

3-
I open 2300, huge huge huge huge whale just peeling everything pre (84o, j7o, a6o etc) peels button whilst super tilted (I imagine he's continuing 50% here) I have JTo with Tc

Flop
J93ccx
I decide to check, he bets 5k into 5k (he made big bet sizes all the time) were pretty deep here, I could c/r and then c/c down with eyes closed but decide to call

Turn
J93Q
I check, he pots 15 into 15, I call

River
J93QA
I check he bets 35 into 45

I have 120k total.

He was 3betting Aq/99 pre flop at very high frequency, I'd say 100%, but maybe 80% or something is better. He had 3bet AQ bb vs mp for example.

I thought about shoving, thought about calling, thought about folding. Really wasn't sure what the best option was to be honest. His value range is

J9
J3s (lol
Q3s
Q9
Qj
AJ
T8s
Kto
Kts
T8o (potentially)

He is the kinda guy who 100% bluffs all missed flush draws, Tx suited hands, 8x suited hands. He did give credit to big bets though, like if somebody bet really big he'd be like "wow has to have it"

I think in hindsight I like shoving although I think T9/TT better bluffcatchers, not blocking his folding range and blocking his calling range (99 if he has it and kt/t8 that bit harder) I get to the river with tonnes of better hands so maybe it's just a trivial fold? His bet when check to KJ the flop was 100% so I like c/r small then just call down but I decided to go for the "low variance" spot and just call the flop. I folded river anyway, but interested if you would have done something different on flop/river. I think only clear thing is checking flop.

Anyway, feeling good about the trip.

First 5 weeks I was very healthy. Ate well, did lots of sport, studied a lot, grinded a lot. Last week or so was abit degenerate in terms of eating and not playing much sport etc pretty happy about how I approached the sunner, next year I have a good plan of how I'd like to do things.

Still have a bunch of sweats left in the main event which is really fun. Tomorrow I will play the $25k at Aria. Really looking forward to this.

I fly home on Sunday, get home Monday. Will have a week at home and then taking parents on holiday to Mallorca for a relaxing week.

Thanks for following this summer everybody, it's been a fun one and I'll remember it for long time. Had good chance of some big scores (14th 5k, 20th 10k 6m) but I don't come home with any regrets.

Thanks again to Party Poker for their continued support, I said a few months ago when I joined them that I was excited about the direction they were going and their great efforts on and offline this summer supoort that. Let's hope the next 6 months really push on in terms of growth and pushing competitiors.

Poker is far from dead folks.
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Old 07-13-2016, 10:44 AM   #2859
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Re: Pads1161 #bracelethunting

Awesome thread and some pretty fun hands from the main! GL in 25k
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Old 07-13-2016, 11:05 AM   #2860
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Interesting hand.

Nit fish who previously bet 20k into 20k with AJ on t98 and then potter Q turn. Also the guy who bet 5x pot with aces and was scared of getting outdrawn limps utg off 150k, whale peels behind (lol main event) button good reg makes it 4500 (1kbb) I call sb off 130k with KQo (3betting potentially better but wte) both whales peel.

Flop KJTr

I check, whale leads 15 into 20, whale folds, button folds. I have 140k.

Thoughts on shoving? I think he raises AQ very often pre flop or bets bigger in the flop and we block it. He's very likely to bet kq, kt, KJ, qj, qt type of hands. I think only thing he calls with is AQ (he's definitely too tight to limp q9s pre)

Pot is 35k I have around 125 going to the flop.

I called, turn is KJTQ and he bets 20k I call. River is KJTQ9 bdfd completes and he checks back AJ.

Thoughts on shoving flop?
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Old 07-13-2016, 11:31 AM   #2861
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Interesting hand.

Nit fish who previously bet 20k into 20k with AJ on t98 and then potter Q turn. Also the guy who bet 5x pot with aces and was scared of getting outdrawn limps utg off 150k, whale peels behind (lol main event) button good reg makes it 4500 (1kbb) I call sb off 130k with KQo (3betting potentially better but wte) both whales peel.

Flop KJTr

I check, whale leads 15 into 20, whale folds, button folds. I have 140k.

Thoughts on shoving? I think he raises AQ very often pre flop or bets bigger in the flop and we block it. He's very likely to bet kq, kt, KJ, qj, qt type of hands. I think only thing he calls with is AQ (he's definitely too tight to limp q9s pre)

Pot is 35k I have around 125 going to the flop.

I called, turn is KJTQ and he bets 20k I call. River is KJTQ9 bdfd completes and he checks back AJ.

Thoughts on shoving flop?
Shoving is cool if we know the runout and his hand .. Don`t like it in general, if he is as fishy as you say. Calling and and lead/folding good turns seems to be way better imo. I think you can fold OTT, if he is as fishy as you say.

I dislike pre a lot. If we flop good flops, we cannot really take initative OTF and feel good about our hand if BTN comes along (K high - Q high boards that are somewhat connected). I would rather just play IP against the fish, instead of playing a bloated Pot OOP vs 3 villains.
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Old 07-13-2016, 12:58 PM   #2862
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Re: Pads1161 #bracelethunting

meh not a fan of a shove in such a well structured, soft tournament as the main event.
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Old 07-13-2016, 01:16 PM   #2863
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meh not a fan of a shove in such a well structured, soft tournament as the main event.
i called, but i think shove is better.

after his 15k and my 15k call there is 50k in the pot and i have 105k chips left, the tournament may be soft, but adding 50% to my stack here is pretty great if i can make him fold great hands, and the times i do get called i pretty much always have 11-13 outs.
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Old 07-13-2016, 01:59 PM   #2864
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i called, but i think shove is better.

after his 15k and my 15k call there is 50k in the pot and i have 105k chips left, the tournament may be soft, but adding 50% to my stack here is pretty great if i can make him fold great hands, and the times i do get called i pretty much always have 11-13 outs.
perhaps you're actually right yeah. ^^ how do you feel about turn call? I know he shouldn't have much straights in theory but feels pretty yuck I imagine

Well, guess it's mandatory if you think he's betting all of his two pairs. What are your further plans for the summer? Grind online again?
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Old 07-13-2016, 04:28 PM   #2865
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Re: Pads1161 #bracelethunting

non troll post since last time I made the lulz about your 88 scoop hand.

I think in the main , such a slow and soft tournament , you should REALLY avoid putting your tourney life at risk in all these " good " spots to bluff and make moves.
I dont like the pre call with KQo , but meh , if they re that fishy , it s for sure fine. On the flop , I think for sure flatting is best and not shoving.
On turn FYI , I think it s super fine to call as long as you plan to use any paired board to your advantage ( donk jamming river KQJT ) , even though that s also another "good
spot to bluff.
I also dont believe if you shove flop , you d actually get him to fold KJ KT because even fish will be like " ohhh if he has AQ , he would surely try to trap me and keep me in since river is basicall, derp derp , I call "

I played the main last year and took a few of these " spots " and even though a good amount of them worked , after much reflection I realized that they should be avoided in first few days because of how soft and how slow the tourney is
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Old 07-13-2016, 07:18 PM   #2866
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non troll post since last time I made the lulz about your 88 scoop hand.

I think in the main , such a slow and soft tournament , you should REALLY avoid putting your tourney life at risk in all these " good " spots to bluff and make moves.
I dont like the pre call with KQo , but meh , if they re that fishy , it s for sure fine. On the flop , I think for sure flatting is best and not shoving.
On turn FYI , I think it s super fine to call as long as you plan to use any paired board to your advantage ( donk jamming river KQJT ) , even though that s also another "good
spot to bluff.
I also dont believe if you shove flop , you d actually get him to fold KJ KT because even fish will be like " ohhh if he has AQ , he would surely try to trap me and keep me in since river is basicall, derp derp , I call "

I played the main last year and took a few of these " spots " and even though a good amount of them worked , after much reflection I realized that they should be avoided in first few days because of how soft and how slow the tourney is
Wait for aces imo.
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Old 07-13-2016, 07:30 PM   #2867
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Wait for aces imo.
no.
wait for royal ( AA preflop only tho) , flip hand up and get confirmation from others that you indeed have a royal and that you are not hallucinating , then go all in.
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:28 AM   #2868
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So decided to play the $25k at Aria today.

Good sleep last night and was there early for the start (rake free if you reg early)

Im planning on playing a tonne of these highrollers in the future so I won't go into names or specifics in hands unless it's irrelevant.

I get to 600k early from 100k starting which was 1/3 of chips in play (18 runners) the field got bigger pretty quickly though and ended with 50.

I won ak v a6s aip for 120bbs each
I won Kk v 65s on j62 in big 4b pot for 80-100bbs each
I won a tonne of other medium to big sized pots

I then lost qq v Kk vs Talal all in pre for 70bbs each.

Lots of ups and downs and upsand downs.

With 10 left (8 pay) I was around 3/9 but had an awful couple of orbits.

Raise utg, I call, 2 others call. I have 98dd

Board
T827K

The last over caller had AK and bet flop and turn and checked river in a big frustrating pot.

I then open 55 and bet twice and call a river lead on K8457 vs 62 which as you can imagine was somewhat annoying too.

I chip back up again then lost 70+bb pot on the pure bubble bvb vs Igor QQ v 88 xxxx8 for 2x average in the money.

I felt some similar emotions as I did in previous high rollers when things hadn't gone my way. I had gone from certainty to cash and very good chance of 200k+'score to potentially eliminated in the pure bubble.

I managed to sneak in and ladder and eventually lost KQ v Kk aip vs the 62/ak guy. I hope he wins it, very good guy and played well and aggressive throughout.

I ended up getting $60,000 for my troubles. It was the biggest field of the summer and I felt really great. I think I made really few mistakes all day and felt really comfortable and confident.

I'm flying back to Budapest tomorrow with my head held high. I really did good this summer, I'm positive for the future.

See you back on the virtual felt on Sunday at Party Poker!
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:31 AM   #2869
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non troll post since last time I made the lulz about your 88 scoop hand.

I think in the main , such a slow and soft tournament , you should REALLY avoid putting your tourney life at risk in all these " good " spots to bluff and make moves.
I dont like the pre call with KQo , but meh , if they re that fishy , it s for sure fine. On the flop , I think for sure flatting is best and not shoving.
On turn FYI , I think it s super fine to call as long as you plan to use any paired board to your advantage ( donk jamming river KQJT ) , even though that s also another "good
spot to bluff.
I also dont believe if you shove flop , you d actually get him to fold KJ KT because even fish will be like " ohhh if he has AQ , he would surely try to trap me and keep me in since river is basicall, derp derp , I call "

I played the main last year and took a few of these " spots " and even though a good amount of them worked , after much reflection I realized that they should be avoided in first few days because of how soft and how slow the tourney is

I didn't shove flop because I thought main event blah blah,
I think in hindsight with the exact player shoving flop clearly the best play
And something I'd 100% do
If I turn back time now.

Main event is funny tournament, card distribution just so so important. Run good with cards and you will get heappppppps and heaps of chips.

I actually didn't take any "good bluff spots" exact j6s which was just too good not to take and I think works v high amount.
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Old 07-14-2016, 07:34 AM   #2870
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Wait for aces imo.
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Main event is funny tournament, card distribution just so so important. Run good with cards and you will get heappppppps and heaps of chips.


Waiting for a better spot, imo.

EDIT: Just saw there's an NVG thread about that hand: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...shove-1619278/

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Old 07-14-2016, 10:45 AM   #2871
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62o floated you on K84? Yh mate hope he wins sounds rock! My local £10 league sounds tougher than this ****!
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Old 07-14-2016, 04:37 PM   #2872
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yeh it seems like you're taking marginal spots against ******s in one of the softest/best structured tournaments of the year.....prob should dial it back a little bit and print low variance money
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Old 07-14-2016, 11:23 PM   #2873
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lol guys? Which marginal spots did I take? I've been playing "too" low variance all summer if anything.

Yesterday in $25k fish limps utg and I just compete sb with ak 60bbs deep, I'm definitely not "pushing edges" although I really wish I had. ThenLW is very clear jam in reflection. This isn't me pushing some edges that are too thin,'it's taking huge edges that others wouldn't take that would give me a was higher roi.
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Old 07-16-2016, 07:23 AM   #2874
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In middle of nightmare journey back from Vegas. Current layover in London and remembered something pretty funny from the $25k

I was at a pretty tough table so wasn't really trying to play exploitative poker except against one guy. I always use the poker clock to control my frequencies. So if I'm going to 3bet AK 80% of the time I'll just check the seconds on the clock and go based on that. Ike does exactly the same thing I think?

He limps BVB, last time he checked the clock and raised. I look down at 93o which was a 100% check mentally but for balance checked the clock and checked.

Flop JT7xxh, he checks I check
Turn JT78xxhh, he checks the clock and checks, I bet, he calls
River JT78Axxhhh, he checks.

Now here's the next interesting thing. This whole tournament is 30 second shot clock, you have 3 extra time banks to use. I know Ike is very balanced in these spots and will c/r bluff certain hands, c/r for value Ofc and whilst I had to make my mind up whether to bet or not and then how much to bet I checked the clock and i had taken 20 seconds. I didn't want to use my time bank up in this spot so decided it's not a bad mistake to make when closing the action rather than potentially making a mistake opening the action.

I show down the straight, Ike has a straight too, but he seems confused why I didn't bet. Talal mentions that this pot was rather small for our hands and Ike says some sarcastic comment about how he "obviously can't call anything but a flush"

I felt a little silly but didn't give a **** really haha.
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