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06-05-2015 , 11:38 AM
The 66 hand, why can't we be b/f to either size? This is near the bottom of our bluff catchers I'm guessing and our range will be something like Tx, flushes, boats and then like 22-99? So folding 6s can't be that bad and I imagine he would have to be way out of line for it to be a huge mistake no?
I imagine you have quite the edge over this table so betting small to induce/C seems meh when there should be enough spots to justify passing/creating this high variance of a spot.

I think from a purely exploitive approach id prefer going bigger just because I feel like giving less perceived fold equity allows us to fold out the bottom of our B/C range and feel a bit better about it assuming he's less likely to semi bluff vs this sizing.

Checking seems like a pretty good option as well/ easiest on our life. (even though I imagine we should be betting this turn at a high frequency and on the smaller side as a general plan?)

Just returned from WSOP and was my first time playing live, these spots I struggled with the most I felt. So any input is greatly welcomed. Thanks for the Blog been a long time lurker, rooting for ya to win a bracelet. GL
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06-05-2015 , 01:36 PM
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TBF he's a Geordie so he's basically Scottish.
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06-05-2015 , 02:22 PM
I'm not sure if i'm misreading but did the guy jam 230k chips over hero's 22k turn bet ?
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06-05-2015 , 06:26 PM
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I'm not sure if i'm misreading but did the guy jam 230k chips over hero's 22k turn bet ?


Guy jammed 200 into 133k
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06-06-2015 , 05:38 PM
Its been 2 days since I busted, I took yesterday off to just make sure I didn't burn out and keep a good head. Had a really, really sick meal with Rob and then we went out afterwards but nothing silly at all.

I've spoken to a lot of people about my bust out and everybody seems to think it was fine which is surprising as I felt like I'd need to defend it but everybody had similar thought process towards it which was surprising but very nice.

Going to reg a little late to the millymaker today and try to spin up a stack, felt like sleeping in would be the best thing.

Had one really awkward hand where, young Canadian opened off 30bbs from the cut of with a relatively aggressive image but nothing crazy. Old guy in the SB 3bet off like 27bbs and I had 99 in the bb. Was very unsure what to do, I had like 100bbs but the older guy had 3bet a couple of times. I tanked a little while and just folded, guess I would just go with JJ+, AK.

Another interesting hand, bb3k, old guy raises button to 7000, bb has 30,000 and button has 80,000, most people 3bc here, but I decided to just jam the AK (I have like 250k at this point) just to deny the old guy the chance to cram hands like pairs. I know he could jam hands like AQ/AJ but maybe he still calls them thinking I'm just bullying or whatever. Was a pretty close spot too.
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06-07-2015 , 04:20 AM
Made day 2 of Millionaire Maker with 18.8k going into 1.2kbb tomorrow, around 1000 people left and around 800 pay.

I've made day 2 of every No Limit event so far so thats definitely good news, grinding them out hard.

Nothing super interesting today, over bet pot 2x twice once as a bluff and once for value. Working very hard on live reads trying to pick up as much as possible, I'd say for 95% of the time it was really effective but two times I didn't realise people had raised before me which was really annoying.

Hopefully can runitup tomorrow.
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06-07-2015 , 06:02 AM
Just stay at 15bb all tournament and eventually you'll have that bracelet #shortstack101
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06-07-2015 , 06:27 AM
Pretty interesting hand actually.

whale utg makes it 2300 at 1kbb, whale makes it 6000 straight from co (means strong range), other whale overpeels. I have 66 in BB, expecting UTG to call almost always, 20 minutes left of the day.

I have 25bbs, wug overpeel, flop set, make monies? or just preserve stack?

maybe its not even close and I'm the worst.. wug?
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06-07-2015 , 06:41 AM
seems like a fold, dont mind it from a 40bb stack
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06-07-2015 , 05:43 PM
really enjoying this quality thread man, keep #bracelethunting
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06-08-2015 , 04:50 AM
Today's PokerNews WSOP headline is "Pechie, Leonard & Freedman Lead Final 142 in Millionaire Maker" which I think is terribly misleading. Who gives a **** about Aaron Leonard?
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06-08-2015 , 06:06 AM
So busted like 850th ish with 780ish paying today. Lost standard hand qts>a5

Felt very ok, basically just folded and didn't get any marginal spots to take and then standard jams.

Hopped into the turbo and busted first level. Was so weird that everybody was raising to 400 pre flop as their standard open sizings and almost every pot was 3bet. I think I made one bad call that I regret.

Fish limps, I raise to 350 with kqo from 5000, fish behind makes it 850 and then fish in sb cold calls. I think I should just fold here even with a great price, I just have bad reverse implied odds, probably sounds like a standard call but at the time I think I kinda knew it was a fold. Thing is in America these guys are just so unpredictable they 3bet hands like 33 and stuff just for no reason. I was going to make a big post about lots of examples where players are making huge mistakes folding to 3bets. Like in the hand where the guy had 33 I had KThh and this seemingly right guy 3bet me from 1000 to 2300 Im basically just calling very very wide vs these 3bets and playing flops because people's 3vet ranges here are so ****ed up.

Another interesting hand.

Day 1 in the millymaker I make it 900 at 400bb, a "reg" makes it 2000 and I have a6s there's like 3.8k in there and it's 1.1 to call.

I call and flop is t62

I check, he gets 250 with 2 yellows and a blue, I match it up and put in an exact min raise leaving 350 chips behind. He tanks and tanks and folds AK. So the pot is like 13k I'm essentially all in for 2.8k and he folds ak here, pretty crazy.

Anyway my bust out in the turbo I wasn't very happy about. I limp bvb and older guy 8x and I fold. Very nice hand I raise button to 150 (by far smallest raise so far on the table) and he 3bets me to 600. I have 3000 total, what's the worst hand you'd jam with here? Once 5 people post I'll post what I jammed!

Anyway I jammed and lost.

I went to play a SNG I have heard a lot about these and when I went over I decided to play a $275 just to see what was happening. I get there and it's basically winner takes all so we all put in 2750 between us and its winner takes all and we tip the dealer at the end. Everybody then does extra last lingers, so the whole table put up 100 each so it's now 3750 for the win. I then made 100$ last lingers with 2 people so personally I was playing it as a 575 and if I win it all I get 3950 but can recoup losses if I last longer than others etc.

I don't mean this in a bad way or anything but it was literally me and 9 big big fish. I ended up winning it but honestly it was nothing about me being good but others simply being bad. Bare in mind this is a winner takes all format. Bvb guy makes it 900 at 400bb I jam 2600 effective and he folds TT?!?!

I get heads up and open jam 17bbs and guy takes 4 minutes, he's a hollywooder and I know he likes to mess about he plays with his cards and I tell him I know he's folding can he please speed up as its a turbo and this hand has taken 25% of the level and I don't want to disrespect or embarrass him (SNG regs all know each other) by calling the clock. He asks dealer to turn his hand over and not be dead, I obligr. He has 88. I'm like wtffffff. We end up agreeing that I swear on my dogs life I don't have "ace rag" and that I'll show him my hand. He did not like seeing 66.

Eventually grind him down heads up by seriously in this winner takes all match I saw at least 10 r/f vs 4-8bb stacks. It was truly ridiculous. I feel like a huge fish for even posting about this in the blog, but if I start blogging about playing SNG's then you know why...

They have 500s and 1000s that are also apparently very, very good value and the 500s with last lingers can play like 1300s my friend said and you pay like 1.8% rake. Obviludly the variance can get pretty high though as its winner takes all but a lot of the edge you get from these is making very profitable deals later on. Ie of its you and 2 regs left you will obviously chop it so it's not higher variance and if it's you and 2 fish they will often give you extremely favourable deals.

Next year I will 100% be running a SNG/MTT stable in vegas where the guys will play SNG's in the RIO and MTT's around town, will sort a big house out etc and be coaching a bunch.

Tomorrow is the 1500 no limit event. I'm really excited because this is exactly what I want to excel in. My goals online are to be the best player, play great gto/balanced/unexploitable style on the whole but in vegas like I said previously my goal in to try and be one of the best regs in the 1000-3000 events. Obviously variance will never show who will be the best, but I'm going to be incredibly tough and self critical towards my performances and pick on the smallest mistakes I make. Would love a deep run tomorrow. #bracelethunting
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06-08-2015 , 10:23 AM
do it.

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06-08-2015 , 12:47 PM
glglgl pads
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06-08-2015 , 12:59 PM
north america poker for you.... these fold are redic....
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06-08-2015 , 01:58 PM
worst hands I am jamming there vs old man tournament player is probably 66 and like ATs. I feel like old men in tournaments love any pair and any Ax
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06-08-2015 , 03:23 PM
I'm gonna go tighter with only info being his age and previous hand, 88+ AJs

edit: pained with 77 tho
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06-08-2015 , 05:10 PM
i d go 99 AQ

u have 60bb in a really soft field, even if u make half a bb jamming sth like 88 or AJ its not worth it considering what you discribed was going on. not even happy with 99 and AQ tbh
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06-08-2015 , 05:40 PM
oh 60bb wow, i need to work on my reading skills

in the risk of coming across toolish i'll take what blakk said then

not that it matters, but you can peel quite a few hands too no?
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06-08-2015 , 05:46 PM
Yeah I underestimated how many bb you have due to his stupid 3b sizing. Assume you have around 40-45bb (if 150 is 2-2.1x or whatever). Probably jam 99+ and AQ+ as well. Game flow/reads are so important here for our range.

Can we flat AJ, AT, KQ stuff here IP? Then jam with all premiums. I don't think old men 3b/fold enough this deep to be worth it as bluffs so I let 22-88 go. Sigh jam 99 (could be a fold)

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06-08-2015 , 07:10 PM
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Tomorrow is the 1500 no limit event. I'm really excited because this is exactly what I want to excel in. My goals online are to be the best player, play great gto/balanced/unexploitable style on the whole but in vegas like I said previously my goal in to try and be one of the best regs in the 1000-3000 events. Obviously variance will never show who will be the best, but I'm going to be incredibly tough and self critical towards my performances and pick on the smallest mistakes I make. Would love a deep run tomorrow. #bracelethunting
against weak fields like this isn't playing a balanced/unexploitable style not optimal? Personally I think this is the best strategy against weak fields especially when certain dynamics exist that allow you to do so..
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06-08-2015 , 08:27 PM
the range must be to closed cause if he 3bet this size we have to 4bet all in close cause he havent foldinq equity so we must be at least flip with his range especially if we have edge at the table.cause if you 4bet all in without foldinq equity you need a better % of your hand against his calling range cause you dont win dead chips.so you need reads to be sure if he do it with scary oop range(ak-99-tt-jj) or if he do it for value(monsters) .under this senario aq isnt 4b and we are happy that we just loose 150 chips in a cooler spot.i hate this kind of play but i am sure that is +ev against players like him


about the winner take all sng i think that variance is lower if you hit a big sample cause there are less icm spots its like a sattelite structure where all the guys earn the same amount.you have big icm decisions just in hu matches , so if you put big volume you will take your advantage-edge cause you will play more hu .

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06-08-2015 , 10:22 PM
I had 99 and felt bad about it, so happy about the responses.

Today was the $1500, I got there on time and was really excited. I lost a pot pretty early flatting AA out of the BB when I was eating my All American Dave food (3bet would look absurdly strong) against Scott Montgommery and then c/c, c/c, c/c on QT264 against QT for big pot.

Built back up with couple of triple barrels and over bets, think my image got pretty bad so decided to play tight after break.

First hand after break I raise to 375 at 150bb and 7k stack. Flop t62r I decide to cbet 475 for protection, guy who had folded twice to my river bets calls. Turn is t62A and I bet 975 with 3500 total (his effective stack) he ships, I call and he has 22. QUACK ****ING QUACK.

Get it in with JT vs J9ss on AQ82ss and chop it up on 2 river and then jam cut off with around 14bs with AJ and lose to KQ.

I wasn't unhappy at all, sure these are the tournaments I'm really looking forward to but if I get upset or unhappy over running like this then it's just silly. Just got to be realistic, sure I didn't go deep or wte, but nothing in my hands and I made good decisions.

Tomorrow is the $1000 no limit, will be on time again and hopefully have a good start as the structure is a little shallower.

Came back for gym/pool/lunch, weather here is really nice at the moment.

Going to the Wynn for some dinner now.

Friend told me I should probably sell for one drop now incase I really want to play it closer to the time. Everybody seems to be selling at 1.05-1.15 from what I've seen, but anybody who would want a sizeable piece I would be happy to do it at no markup. lol100ks.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18.../#post47195375

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06-09-2015 , 04:16 AM
Went for dinner with Rob at SW Steakhouse at the Wynn.

I've wanted to eat here for years and years, I always imagined it was the best steakhouse in Vegas.

Our bill was $400 between us and I lost the flip. The meal really wasn't great, I'd say I've had steak from 20 places which are better than here, so was pretty let down.

We played blackjack for a while and ran really really hot, winning around 30bbs haha.

Looking forward to the $1000 tomorrow, I guess its the kinda tournament you get a stack or bust in because of the shallow stacks, next day is the $5k 8max which I'm really looking forward to, should be a great event.
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06-09-2015 , 04:18 AM
dont u think u should skip the 1k bowl to be 100% fit for the 5k? if u make day2 of the 1k u ll likely have to skip the 5k for peanut equity
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