They won't be lower quality than Vision or PLOTrainer's.

Trainers are great, especially used in conjunction with Monkersolver. It is unfortunate the accesible / public options for PLO are pretty poor and limited compared to NL ones.

gl w balancing school + poker man

would recommend auditing your time for a few weeks ~ this will help you optimize if done correctly

Yes this is a concern of mine, but for the stakes I am playing atm it is still possible to have high winrate. Even the 5/10 games look playable.

I'm just a little bit directionless when it comes to improving long term.

Yeah! That's a great idea. I'll give it a shot thanks!

Up to $10/20 is definitly beatable for >10bb/100

Moved up to 1/2 today, last couple stakes have been a breeze just getting comfortable.

Unfortunately, the graphs won't be coming any time soon

HM3 doesn't import hands from PartyPoker that have used the cash-out feature, which I am using liberally atm for mental + bankroll reasons (I like to let it run when I'm significantly behind, because I never feel "bad" about losing with 15%, but it ruins my hourly losing an 85%er and getting tilted.) - I see myself not using if I am rolled like 200BI for my stake.

The cost is significant, but I'd rather play to my strengths, and shore up my weaknesses in general (here my weakness is my mental game 100%)

Anyways, because of the way I use it, it basically takes out all the biggest pots where I am getting it in with good equity

For example, today I was up ~4BI, but my HM3 disagrees - Just going to use HM3 to review some pots, and some stat analysis.


Going to shortstack 1/2 for a little bit more, then move to full buy in 1/2 and at the same time shot take 2.5/5!

Also made $112 in rakeback today, which is seriously helpful for boosting the roll. I really like how clear the PartyPoker rakeback system is. IDK why but I have a 70% boost, which I've had for like a month straight. I think it's because the PLO zoom pools are low on players, so they want to incentivize me to play it? IDK, I'm a little bit confused and can't find any information online.

Haven't played all that much last couple days, getting the hang of some difficult but important calc 2 concepts.

No longer ratholing to 50bb, going to try to run it up a bit, still buying in for 50bb though. Still cashing out in all ins as well. 200z has been kind to me

Going to continue to focus on zoom/fastforward tables, I find the game quality doesn't decrease that much, and the reg tables don't even run consistently. And obviously the number of hands u can put in with zoom is amazing!

No exciting plans for now, just going to grind up 50bb buyins until I start buying for 100bb. Now is the part of poker where I sit down, put in hours and grind out some money!

Did you just start playing recently on party? I havent heard of higher than 70% which I thought was maybe what new players start at. Mines got nuked as is now at 5% past month. I have been playing some volume in the 1/2 ff pool too most of this year. Im pretty bad but the games with rakeback were still pretty profitable but not very appealing now with worse happy hours and rakeback. Lost like 2k$+ a month in rakeback under the new cashback model What is your screenname out of curiosity?

I think its mostly based off winrate that determines your boost %. Not playing for a week seemed to boost mine fwiw.

Hey, I’m GalaxyXpress on PP - regarding the boost, I have had a party acc for a long time, when I deposited to grind, I got the boost. Idk exactly what triggers it, but I agree if I only had 5% boost the games are much less appealing. I might consider playing live or on a different site in the times I don’t have a boost, and grinding partypoker the times I do have it.

There’s also the possibility that the boost is related to smt like PVI, I really don’t know. In that case, picking the “cash out all in” option might trick the system into thinking I am more of a recreational player. Just a random thought.

Currently tho rakeback is like $32 an hour or something ridiculous, and I’m only playing 2 tables of zoom.

This seems like a good play, gl out there!

Wait I’m ******ed, my username isn’t GalaxyXpress, it’s “0neWh0Kn0x” - the other username is my user on a site for a different game lmao

Heading to play live for the first time in infinite! Party games seem to have mostly dried up. Couple days ago I had a dream scenario where the only ppl in the fast forward pool were me and two fishes. But mostly it’s been a lot of green, light blue, and grey tags (aggro reg, passive reg and general reg). Sometimes no whale or fish in pool, mostly one. But not enough to make games worth it imo.

I am thankful for the time I was able to farm the pool though! Profited 2k from online, happy to focus on live for a little
bit.

Focus before was grind, nothing about that is changing, just time to grind it out in casino

The game is 1/2 uncapped PLO, will have to see what hourly could look like.

Super cool thread man... But you seem to tilt a lot... Im lucky thats something that does not hit me at all

Yes, tilt is easily the weakest part of my game. Not to say the other technical areas of my game don't need work, but not knowing my 4bet flop play 200 bb deep doesn't cost me as much as when I tilt and stack off with bottom pair gutter for no reason.

Not tilting is great and very suited for poker

You should come and play against wealthy and powerful people in the Congo DRC, some nights you are destroyed but most of them, you are happy to play those ignorant people at poker... Mention Dwan, Sahamies, Jnandez... They ve got no idea who you are talking about...
Then, you will control your tilt to be able to join these games and get invited again and again otherwise... ciao ciaoooooo. Those 5/10/20 are worth it !

I wish I was rolled for 10/20, high stakes live is absolutely the biggest money maker in poker... Travelling for live poker is defs a goal of mine, maybe in a year! Would want to be playing 5/10 or higher to justify travel.

My goal is to be somebody at the table like keating after watching the hustler streams... He is action, always smiling, everybody likes playing with him... He is probably demolishing private games for absurd amts of money... So tilting at the table is totally out of the question when playing live!

Been getting owned a bunch today - casino I went to doesn't ever fire omaha tables, going to a different one that I know fires 100%. Idk what changed, I've had some people that are new in the player pool go full pot on the river with hands that imo are not full pot river bets. Maybe I'm not understanding something about 3 handed??? Idk, but pretty tilting.



This hand and the other hand I'm posting made me quit today and cash out partypoker. I don't think I'm raising any hands on the turn. So on the river I can check, or go all in myself. But I think check is a little bit better here because he is going to check back all his two pair and sets, so the TT is quite useful as bluffcatchers... IP can fire without a ten here as a bluff so I'm not that worried abt blocking potential bluffs. But obviously my specific hand gets owned by what he went for full pot with. But his bet is way too big for his hand idk... I will have some 96, some 9T, some aces, kings with 98 or something. 96 seems clearly the cutoff for full pot value, so maybe I want pocket nines to bluffcatch instead... But it's just tilting to run into 64 here it doesn't make sense for him to full pot... But again maybe I am misunderstanding something about the hand, or maybe he is just some fish who knows. But I feel out of my depth either way. If he goes 50% on the river I am obviously going to jam.

So I think maybe if I played the hand again I'd pot river and check something like AA99 and catch with that. Because TT doesn't block all his value. And I don't think this is a case of me calling rivers too light constantly, and having people go thin on me. Because like I said, I have never seen this player in the pool.



VS pot on the flop, I think this hand is clear call vs another unknown player. Because a lot of rec players just flop top set or middle set and pot to get more money in. The turn is kind of weird already, because I would expect a reg to check a lot, if they even have a cbet range on this flop. So the range I think he can have on the flop for "value" as a rec is some AQK type hand, and sets. But I just discounted sets at this point, and I have AK in my hand and there's a K on the turn. So I'm a little suspicious already. Then on the river he just pots it and I'm like ok MAYBE he has Q9 but idk if he pots it, maybe he has AQ. I'm ok losing to these hands, maybe call is good maybe call is bad idk. But he just has some middle set it's absolute insanity to go full pot here for value. But again my specific hand gets owned.

So yeah, only 2 hands obviously doesn't mean anything, but the hands are so weird I'm either feeling like I don't understand these fish's thought process, and won't have that big of an edge, or these guys are more studied than I am and are just outplaying me. So cashing out PartyPoker and going to deposit on a local site, and focus on live poker for now.

FWIW I think both of these hands aren't like slam dunk calls. My river call efficiency over the last 10k hands on PartyPoker is 1.13, 1.07 over the last 4.2k hands at 1/2! So it's comforting I am not getting totally ****ed by calling the river too light. But I just don't feel like I have an edge right now on PartyPoker 200z for whatever reason, I have no clue. Getting owned too much.

Not really feeling angry or anything, just a little bit confused and frustrated because I got owned in these hands and have no clue if I'm punting or if they are punting

But how much did you loose? If you didnt loose enough you are just paranoid x)

Based on your post above, you most likely try to think to deeply about peoples logic at 1/2. You could simplify your strategy and don't get too caught up in their betsizings, unless you have a very specific read on a player with tons of history. People will just bet whatever hand at whatever size they want, they're not going through what you think they are going through in the heads.

Try to base your river call on more firm ground, like the value of your blockers, if you unblock their draws, if they actually ever bluff and what other hands you might have in that spot. Don't worry about overfolding imo, like half the field on 1/2 never bluffs river. Obviously if we're against a 100/100/100 player we try to call with anything that beats his bluffs and has any sort of blockers, but most of the pool fall way more into the first category than this one.

Yes it's entirely possible. Based on this, in the first hand I would be extremely likely to fold if I held a queen in my hand, because his hands with a queen are the most likely to be one pair + single blocker to straight on the river. I am thinking more that I like jam now, but call is probably okay to slightly losing.

Second hand I was more using the heuristic of his line doesn't make sense, so I call

Jamming the river over a half pot bet on hand 1 seems insane. Yes ppl should occasionally have 9t in their calling range there but the overwhelming majority don't. At least not in any games I play. Especially in a 3 bet pot, ppl are going to be more concerned losing the pot and would rather protect their hand. This makes it incredibly hard to sell the straight. Blockers aren't everything. The story has to make sense.

First hand you are most likely losing 95%> of the time, I like betting turn with our hand and a bit torn regarding following through as 5 is one of the worst rivers. Since we have no sd value and nut blockers, we just have to pot. Results would be the same but you’d lose significantly less with this line than yours in the long run.

Second hand you can just fold turn happily because we absolutely suspect they will barrel sets and straights but not always two pairs, I doubt you’ll find enough bluffs to make up for that combination of equity disadvantage and reverse implied. River is a snapfold, no question about it.

Yes I think my game was off a bit.

First hand absolutely agree fire turn is good, and then probably pot river. I think 95% of the time is much too high though, I don't find that this is an underbluffed spot. My line is just so weak, xc xc x he is gonna decide to fire a lot I think. Losing 95% is tough, would need to be losing to a lot of his bluffs.
Firing turn is good here because we have position on the SB and make life tough for the BTN.

Second hand I think about the spot in a different way. The solver is generally going to fold these lockdown boards with bottom set with no backup afaik. So with the nut gutter I will continue, with no backup (5566) I will fold the turn. Yes I block 1 FH out but also have 4 additional Q outs.
Yes we have equity disadvantage and some reverse implied, but we also have position. This is a hand I'm much more happy to fold OOP obviously.

River I know is a snapfold in theory, my thought process was mainly based around what range I'm assigning him on flop. I think some of the worse players I was playing vs were extremely aggressive spewy whales, and I started calling rivers too light vs unknowns.

Gave this a go for a week. Big changes were blocking facebook and twitter on my desktop

Played live for the first time in a while, forgot how brain dead this game can be!

Played mostly 1/2, sometime straddle on to 10 mostly 1k deep. In for 1200 out for 1550, looking forward to grinding a bit live.

School days probably gonna play online on the local site, Friday Sat Sun can mix it up in the live streets.

Is betting the flop not a thing here 3 way? too deep? Does it change at 100bb deep?