Been getting owned a bunch today - casino I went to doesn't ever fire omaha tables, going to a different one that I know fires 100%. Idk what changed, I've had some people that are new in the player pool go full pot on the river with hands that imo are not full pot river bets. Maybe I'm not understanding something about 3 handed??? Idk, but pretty tilting.
PartyGaming - $2 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 3 players
BTN: $960.20 (480.1 bb)
SB: $214.80 (107.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $295.94 (148 bb)
SB posts $1.00, Hero posts BB $2.00
Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has T
A
T
A
BTN raises to $7.00, SB calls $6.00,
Hero raises to $28.00, BTN calls $21.00, SB calls $21.00
Flop: ($84.00, 3 players) J
3
7
SB checks,
Hero checks, BTN checks
Turn: ($84.00, 3 players) 8
SB checks,
Hero checks,
BTN bets $54.66, fold,
Hero calls $54.66
River: ($193.32, 2 players) 5
Hero checks,
BTN bets $191.32,
Hero calls $191.32
Results: $575.96 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: J
3
7
8
5
BTN shows 6
J
4
8
:
(Straight, Eight High)
(Pre 38%, Flop 47%, Turn 75%)
Hero mucks T
A
T
A
:
(One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 62%, Flop 53%, Turn 25%)
BTN wins $573.96
This hand and the other hand I'm posting made me quit today and cash out partypoker. I don't think I'm raising any hands on the turn. So on the river I can check, or go all in myself. But I think check is a little bit better here because he is going to check back all his two pair and sets, so the TT is quite useful as bluffcatchers... IP can fire without a ten here as a bluff so I'm not that worried abt blocking potential bluffs. But obviously my specific hand gets owned by what he went for full pot with. But his bet is way too big for his hand idk... I will have some 96, some 9T, some aces, kings with 98 or something. 96 seems clearly the cutoff for full pot value, so maybe I want pocket nines to bluffcatch instead... But it's just tilting to run into 64 here it doesn't make sense for him to full pot... But again maybe I am misunderstanding something about the hand, or maybe he is just some fish who knows. But I feel out of my depth either way. If he goes 50% on the river I am obviously going to jam.
So I think maybe if I played the hand again I'd pot river and check something like AA99 and catch with that. Because TT doesn't block all his value. And I don't think this is a case of me calling rivers too light constantly, and having people go thin on me. Because like I said, I have never seen this player in the pool.
PartyGaming - $2 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 4 players
BTN: $192.40 (96.2 bb)
SB: $378.93 (189.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $154.42 (77.2 bb)
CO: $201.00 (100.5 bb)
SB posts $1.00, Hero posts BB $2.00
Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has K
5
5
A
2 folds,
SB raises to $6.00,
Hero calls $4.00
Flop: ($12.00, 2 players) J
5
T
SB bets $11.40,
Hero calls $11.40
Turn: ($34.80, 2 players) K
SB bets $33.06,
Hero calls $33.06
River: ($100.92, 2 players) 7
SB bets $98.92,
Hero calls $98.92
Results: $298.76 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: J
5
T
K
7
SB shows T
K
T
J
:
(Three of a Kind, Tens)
(Pre 57%, Flop 78%, Turn 88%)
Hero mucks K
5
5
A
:
(Three of a Kind, Fives)
(Pre 43%, Flop 22%, Turn 13%)
SB wins $296.76
VS pot on the flop, I think this hand is clear call vs another unknown player. Because a lot of rec players just flop top set or middle set and pot to get more money in. The turn is kind of weird already, because I would expect a reg to check a lot, if they even have a cbet range on this flop. So the range I think he can have on the flop for "value" as a rec is some AQK type hand, and sets. But I just discounted sets at this point, and I have AK in my hand and there's a K on the turn. So I'm a little suspicious already. Then on the river he just pots it and I'm like ok MAYBE he has Q9 but idk if he pots it, maybe he has AQ. I'm ok losing to these hands, maybe call is good maybe call is bad idk. But he just has some middle set it's absolute insanity to go full pot here for value. But again my specific hand gets owned.
So yeah, only 2 hands obviously doesn't mean anything, but the hands are so weird I'm either feeling like I don't understand these fish's thought process, and won't have that big of an edge, or these guys are more studied than I am and are just outplaying me. So cashing out PartyPoker and going to deposit on a local site, and focus on live poker for now.
FWIW I think both of these hands aren't like slam dunk calls. My river call efficiency over the last 10k hands on PartyPoker is 1.13, 1.07 over the last 4.2k hands at 1/2! So it's comforting I am not getting totally ****ed by calling the river too light. But I just don't feel like I have an edge right now on PartyPoker 200z for whatever reason, I have no clue. Getting owned too much.
Not really feeling angry or anything, just a little bit confused and frustrated because I got owned in these hands and have no clue if I'm punting or if they are punting