RE AA28rr and rainbow aces in general - 100bb deep flat BB or SB vs BTN. 50bb deep we never slow play aces in this spot. 100bb deep we start to slowplay aces facing 3bet from BB as EP. But never BB vs BTN. Swapping stuff like bad aces with something like T976ds is GTO!

Put in good hours today and only lost like $100. Which at this point, makes me feel like it's a good days work. At least I didn't lose another 10BI. Now for some hands + analysis. Was checking trainer for the rainbow aces frequencies, but these analysis will just be my thoughts / what I already looked up.

I saved these hands based on stuff I thought I messed up, or particularly frustrating or fun hands.

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/c2...b-fa4023e0b26b

Random whale, flop 3bet might be bad because it folds out bluffs, but I just don't want him to fold an ace that he thinks is the nuts if the flush comes in...

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/07...a-a469b27c5cb8

turn size is supposed to be 1/3rd but it's super whatever. On river, solver wants to xc or block call all nut flushes. Basically very rarely folding them, and with pair blocker the hand is more than good enough. In theory, opponent is going to have roughly 20% boats or better before we take into consideration my board pair blocker effects. In this case I think xc and bc are kind of bad vs population because people aren't bluffing river in this spot enough. So we have to xf or bf, which are both losing out on MASSIVE amounts of value since we can basically never get pot sized value. Because of this, I think potting is best. We mostly have the best hand, and this is the only way we can be getting lots of value.

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/c1...9-7d1ed4161164

This hand kind of just sucks and is an easy flop fold. I got caught up in turning pair + open ender. I like the river line though.

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/f4...d-3d341f052067

This is kind of random but I don't mind it. At 100bb there is no donking here because the SPR is so low enough there isn't really any point - our opponent will basically just be jamming range. At 100bb in 3bet pot this type of hand will donk this type of board. So it's a question of if the SPR is high enough that we have fold equity. I thought the answer was yes vs this opponent at this SPR. So I went for it.

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/7e...5-c07dc81567f4

This hand I saved as a reminder of how fish can randomly just click buttons and end up going much thinner for value (bluff?) than one might expect.

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/32...5-612a475e7187

Turn isn't going to be barreled in GTO, but 89T mostly barrels. Obviously I'm never going to play exactly like the solver, and I don't mind this line. On river I unblock all his folds and have no showdown so it's a mandatory bluff imo. Really ****ing tilting to get called by the zero blockers though. I think I bet river 5 times after this vs this specific player, and they folded every time. I don't really adjust super hard after seeing a bad call, because they could have just been tilted this hand and decided to call, or maybe their kid started yelling or smt. But this is the type of **** that makes me think collusion. They are not a station on river, but randomly make -1500bb/100 calls and magically I'm ****ing bluffing.

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/b7...e-fc30acba96ab

Finally run ****ing good for once...

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/bc...0-b32cee34bd31

Standard I think... But happy I won the hand.

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/06...6-83d5ec6cd1d2

This hand makes an ok barrel, when I checked solver this hand wouldn't cbet HU, opting for checkback. But AhQ that cbets is going to barrel off here. We just don't have showdown value. But we block their strongest hands, and can apply a lot of pressure on turn and river double / triple barrel. So even though this hand is a flop xb I'm happy with how I played it. Not going to play exactly like solver. Not happy with my opponents call. Again, they have very weak blockers and beat none of my value. And again, I get looked up.... Although this hand is easy call if your buddy folded a couple hearts....

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/72...5-3b901f02d757

This guy never gets out of line like this again, and I didn't see it before. But magically decides to lose his mind and make a stupid 3bet, and gets rewarded...

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/df...e-38ccc5bf4bf8

I would be surprised if I could range bet turn. XB seems fine. We would only be betting for protection basically. On river I think I call all A+Spade, and it seems likely that opponent will end up overbluffing some amount.

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/c2...b-fa4023e0b26b

Looks like a good read and a good exploit. Flow state?


https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/07...a-a469b27c5cb8

"turn size is supposed to be 1/3rd but it's super whatever. On river, solver wants to xc or block call all nut flushes. Basically very rarely folding them, and with pair blocker the hand is more than good enough. In theory, opponent is going to have roughly 20% boats or better before we take into consideration my board pair blocker effects. In this case I think xc and bc are kind of bad vs population because people aren't bluffing river in this spot enough. So we have to xf or bf, which are both losing out on MASSIVE amounts of value since we can basically never get pot sized value. Because of this, I think potting is best. We mostly have the best hand, and this is the only way we can be getting lots of value. "

If population isn't bluffing enough on this river, than 1/4 to 1/3 bet fold would prolly be best to me. Also agree that smaller on turn is better. Villain range on flop is 9x, 687 or overpairs hopefully with a backdoor. You are looking for a pot sized river call from a backdoor FD which you block. He would need to hero a 9 or have made a flush to get full value. cx river seems reasonable but I would expect to be beat here alot.

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/c1...9-7d1ed4161164

"This hand kind of just sucks and is an easy flop fold. I got caught up in turning pair + open ender. I like the river line though. "

Preflop seems optional, but good if you have been tight. Flop call seems fine.. Turn check is good, but I would prolly fold if they pot. You don't have an open ender here. River is a standard x/f to me. Everything that he pots the flop with gets there. He has boats and flushes a ton. I would not try to push most players off those hands at this level.

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/f4...d-3d341f052067

"This is kind of random but I don't mind it. At 100bb there is no donking here because the SPR is so low enough there isn't really any point - our opponent will basically just be jamming range. At 100bb in 3bet pot this type of hand will donk this type of board. So it's a question of if the SPR is high enough that we have fold equity. I thought the answer was yes vs this opponent at this SPR. So I went for it. "

Get out of the box and go with your gut, nice hand. Preflop i dunno tho. Table dependent I guess.

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/7e...5-c07dc81567f4

"This hand I saved as a reminder of how fish can randomly just click buttons and end up going much thinner for value (bluff?) than one might expect. "

Looks totally normal at .50/1

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/32...5-612a475e7187

"Turn isn't going to be barreled in GTO, but 89T mostly barrels. Obviously I'm never going to play exactly like the solver, and I don't mind this line. On river I unblock all his folds and have no showdown so it's a mandatory bluff imo. Really ****ing tilting to get called by the zero blockers though. I think I bet river 5 times after this vs this specific player, and they folded every time. I don't really adjust super hard after seeing a bad call, because they could have just been tilted this hand and decided to call, or maybe their kid started yelling or smt. But this is the type of **** that makes me think collusion. They are not a station on river, but randomly make -1500bb/100 calls and magically I'm ****ing bluffing. "


Alot of players in this pool simply aren't thinking about blockers. I see no other players have looked at any of these hands since played. That should tell you the level of thought they put into them. To bet flop or turn or not is a prolly quite close, but the river I would think is not a pot. There are busted flop draws that may have you beat like a single pair with a draw, and they may fold to a 1/4-1/2 pot bet if nitty. Im just not sure what full pot accomplishes vs smaller bet. You are beating JT89cc and some other hands anyways at showdown.


https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/b7...e-fc30acba96ab

"Finally run ****ing good for once..."

It happens!

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/bc...0-b32cee34bd31

"Standard I think... But happy I won the hand."

I would prolly play this just like that. But lose :P What you gonna do?


https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/06...6-83d5ec6cd1d2

"This hand makes an ok barrel, when I checked solver this hand wouldn't cbet HU, opting for checkback. But AhQ that cbets is going to barrel off here. We just don't have showdown value. But we block their strongest hands, and can apply a lot of pressure on turn and river double / triple barrel. So even though this hand is a flop xb I'm happy with how I played it. Not going to play exactly like solver. Not happy with my opponents call. Again, they have very weak blockers and beat none of my value. And again, I get looked up.... Although this hand is easy call if your buddy folded a couple hearts...."

Ya.. I may have played this the same way.. Player dependent really. If he hates you, never bet that river. :P You are trying to get him to fold a flush or a 4.

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/72...5-3b901f02d757

"This guy never gets out of line like this again, and I didn't see it before. But magically decides to lose his mind and make a stupid 3bet, and gets rewarded..."

I play like that villain. Play tight until everyone thinks im a nit then play low rundowns like the nuts. Tilts the fish. I mean you think his buddy says I folded some high cards, so you are live? If his buddy had alot of high cards he would likely play his hand... no? I dunno. Seems pretty standard. Ever play live PLO? lol

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/df...e-38ccc5bf4bf8

"I would be surprised if I could range bet turn. XB seems fine. We would only be betting for protection basically. On river I think I call all A+Spade, and it seems likely that opponent will end up overbluffing some amount.[/QUOTE]"

Preflop raise seems suspect.. It looks like a great hand for flatting in pos. If you get 4 bet you have to.. fold, yes? Well played after the flop tho.

Hm. Appreciate getting some second opinions on these hands. Thought-provoking to see how our thought processes differ significantly in many spots.

All 3 hands vs pot random **** and get it in whale.

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/74...0-aafbd4921353

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/27...8-36c4578acea7

https://play.globalpoker.com/hand/f5...5-d6f9eb875eb9

That’s it for me! Have a couple tentative staking offers, will figure out something regarding that.

I’m going to ****ing puke that I’m tossing away half my profits, so I’m definitely looking for an arrangement with really good coaching.

Down 15k in a couple months to this ******ed ****ing site. Still have like 25bi but I don’t know what the **** is going on right now honestly.

Only thing is I don’t want some sketchy app game backer that makes money off my rakeback, I don’t want somebody to try to recruit me into their RTA stable, I don’t want any of this garbage. I just want to do business with somebody who isn’t a total scumbag…

Cashed out the rest of Global balance, just gonna do solver work/drills and send out staking applications for the rest of my working hours today and for the rest of the week.

Noone in sane mind will stake a losing reg with terrible thought process, tilt issues and talking sht about people who actually beat the game

It seems like you are beating the game to me.. it doesn't look like you are getting outplayed very much.. maybe just leveling yourself from time to time on the rivers mainly. But Galfond still does that sometimes.

From the looks of the hands you have shared, I would bet on you beating the game in the long run.

Variance in PLO is 95% of the difficulty.

Take a break. Know you are better than most your opponents.

"It ain't about how hard you can hit. Its about how hard you can get hit. And keep. Moving. Forward" -Rocky Balboa

Not super studied in plo but those last two hands seem like suboptimal sizings/lines. Plo has crazy variance and most likely your frustration (which is understandable) is causing you to make mistakes you may not otherwise make which is further contributing to the downer. It seems likely that your winrate is pretty small in these games and therefore can expect pretty ridiculous swings. I know you probably like PLO but have you considered switching games? It's very hard to play high variance game types like plo or large field mtt when you don't have much of a net worth and need more consistent income. Playing for 50% of your winrate at low stakes is going to be a very difficult path to climb out of after living expenses. Definitely make sure if you do go down that path that you are getting great coaching like you said and that you crush the volume and keep the expenses bare bones.

Yeah they definitely are suboptimal, but if somebody is going to go with hands like AKKK pre I just want to put a ton of money in the middle, even if it's not absolutely printing.

I have considered switching games - I wouldn't mind grinding 2/5 NLH live or something. Honestly I regret not playing more live in general. Still making $100/h at 1/2 PLO uncapped in my smallish sample, games are just so soft.

I agree my winrate is probably pretty small in these games... So that's why I really need the coaching. I need to get myself to a big winner, move up stakes, and make a ton of money. I thought that I could do this myself by studying, but it doesn't seem like that's the case. So I need some more help.

IDK how much it's worth at this point, but I also "feel" like I'm beating the games. People are just too bad for me to imagine losing... But here I am, taking a break while I figure out wtf is going on....

It's so funny reading through this thread today that you believe the way to run up a bankroll is by playing online, albeit you try every site just hoping to catch fire there for a while

Everyone knows, you build the bankroll playing live. And then you either play low stakes online to practice/stay sharp, or you deposit a substantial amount to play high stakes online

Go sit your ass at a casino and grind that 5k bankroll to 50k, it'll take less than 6 months and then you can deposit 10k on global and 10k on ignition and play plo1000


glgl, not following cause I believe you're going nowhere

Of course you can build up a bankroll playing online. I do think I'll revisit live once I've improved my game enough though.

This blog really is the gift that keeps on giving.
OP you should have followed your own advice and stopped playing on Global. Clearly something is fishy on the site.
Time to switch to another site.

No I think it’s a mental game leak from talking to players who I respect. But if something comes out in the near future similar to that what happened on ignition, I wouldn’t be surprised. But if I was still grinding on my own terms, id play on Global + Ignition. If I’m correct this time as well however, I’m going to be way more confident next time.

give us some infos about br
am i the only player who goes broke all the time

Maybe sharing my graph from Global will help. This is only PLO. Does not include blackjack :P

Guess where I started playing 2/5 - 10/20 lol

Every so often we get totally doomswitched and start tilting. But we recover and move on. It always hurts tho.

Downswings can last for months. But they always end.

If Global has collusion they are not executing it very well. I feel like I will beat colluders in the long run if they are there. You have to pretty stupid to try and collude instead of just being good at the game. Anyone with enough fundamentals to efficiently collude can just straight up beat the game I think.

Was using 50BI+5 for shotting. Big big big mistake. Basically guaranteed to go busto long term even if 10bb/100. I just wanted to hit hs so quickly…

Next time will pick a limit to start at, grind it up to 100bi and use 100BI+10 for shotting.

The variance is just too ****ed I think.



Not my graph, but this guy is 20bb, and gets ****ed non stop in downswing basically the whole sample.

1. He's almost certainly not a 20BB winner.

2. This isn't that bad, not sure what it's supposed to prove.

I would suggest start at 50 and study (really study, not just go over hands you lost), and grind up with 4 tables max. It seems like all of your problems are stemming from paranoia that you're being colluded against and obsession with short term results. These are gonna crush your EV long term. Also seems from your posts like you have a severe amount of entitlement tilt. From what i can tell you have a job currently? If you don't need poker to survive then you have all the time in the world to fix these issues. If you want to make it to high stakes then you need to actually sit down every day and study like f**k, it's the only way. The results will come once you do that.

2. Yeah it’s not the worst there’s so many things that can happen that r worse. Not trying to prove anything just putting things in context. Was just a graph a saw recently.

Yes I really study. Every day drilling… preflop, flop cbet srp. 3bet pot bb btn etc etc… drill, find key ideas, drill, try new boards with these ideas, etc. but this is a recent development…. When I was lazy and just playing to win money I didn’t study as hard because I didn’t understand the need for it.

Yes I have entitlement tilt in poker as well as in MTG.

Yes I have paranoia about being colluded and obsession with short term results. Latter is becoming less and less, first I’m not really sure why I have this concern.

No job but poker for close to 2 years. Paying my way through tuition/food/whatever but living rent free with family still.

I agree with 4 tables max.

Unlikely to start at 50s will likely start at 100s under stake again, improve with guidance, and build up ~30k roll to play 200s on playnow and 1/2 uncapped live.

you should listen to lee. we've been in the same study group for over a year now and he knows what's up. you're young and have a huge ego which is understandable at your age but you're nowhere near as good as you think you are. you can't lose over a 10-20k sample size and say its collusion or you're down swinging lol, that's fkn nothing. truth is you just suck. tbh we all do, PLO is fkn hard dude and the variance can be insane. there was a 3 month period last year where I ran 9k under EV at 100 PLO over a 120k hand sample, it just is what it is. do as the goat EEE27 said "sit your ass down and grind". gl broski.

Yes love that quote.

Agree with all the stuff u said. TBH I think the shitty BRM and moving up and down all the time leads me to lose my mind at short term results. I know 10-20k hands is nothing etc. But I still care so much abt results in this time frame.

ur so obsessed with theory in a 100 PLO game. despite you being a complete dipshit heres a tip, theory only matters so much. ur not playing high stakes and ur not playing vs players that apply theory. If u notice theyre calling too much stop pickiing suboptimal bluffs (89t hand) as 3 barrels, u can cb x b as a bluff, ur lines dont have to be balanced, the fish arent noticing ur really only hurting urself cuz ur trying to prove to urself that ur playing good poker. u can just play super face up, value bet big and bluff small and still win in these games. probably the only tip im going to give u since ur a **** losing reg and i genuinely feel bad reading this forum.

like what even are these hands, why would you jam turn with aqt on one of the worst cards for ur range? if ur gonna exploit trap flop because u think ur opponents range is weak why are u jamming turn with straight + nfd + trips, like what are u going to get called by. super weird stuff

Thanks but I don’t want to take advice from somebody who has to RTA to beat the games… Why don’t you shed some light on how you originally got banned in the squid stable, then unbanned, then got rebanned after being given a second chance? Or how about a 20bi downswing that magically disappeared when you posted a results graph in Jerimiah’s discord? Makes sense to lie abt results if you are trying to coach/stake people…

I am out here struggling, studying, and grinding my ass off and I am going to take advice from people who cheat the games? Fat ****ing chance.