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08-02-2023 , 06:49 PM
Taking 1 month away from shotting 200s on global regardless of how much money I have. Just playing 100s. Will take this time to study, improve, and put in volume at 100s / playnow200. September 1st I’ll shot 200s again.
08-02-2023 , 09:27 PM
Picked up some creatine for fitness regime
08-03-2023 , 05:36 AM
Played 2k hands of 100z on Stars, no idea if I am profitable in zoom or not. But feeling confident enough to keep grinding Global, have analyzed my hands and everything looks reasonable.

08-03-2023 , 12:41 PM
It took me several months and maybe a dozen or so shot to break through 200 PLO on Global. Many sessions losing over $1k in less than an hour. Big test of patience and discipline. The longer it takes, the stronger a mental game you will have when you make it though. You will be a beast.

200 to 500 is the biggest jump though.

Your poker game is a muscle. Keep working it
08-03-2023 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by delivery guy
It took me several months and maybe a dozen or so shot to break through 200 PLO on Global. Many sessions losing over $1k in less than an hour. Big test of patience and discipline. The longer it takes, the stronger a mental game you will have when you make it though. You will be a beast.

200 to 500 is the biggest jump though.

Your poker game is a muscle. Keep working it
Yeah I realized how **** I am basically technically… have been studying / training a lot, drilling preflop on transit lol.
08-04-2023 , 05:33 AM
Dropping 200s on Playnow, going to only play 100s on Global and depositing on Winamax as well until I make a couple grand more.

Nothing I can control abt downswing at this point it's just comical, getting in AAxx vs AKKx pf flop KKx etc etc... Really happy with my play though, not making tilt calls on rivers, making appropriate flop peels/raises to cbet, good adjustments to whales idk.

Just need to make responsible decisions around stakes, continue improving my game, put in volume, and endure until things turn around.
08-04-2023 , 07:13 PM
the variance is ****ing huge even for the crushers, and even for the crushers in games like NLH. you can play perfect in every single situation and run bad for 500k hands and it's not even near the worst. our little dinosaur monkey brains can't comprehend it. getting coolered in an allin situation barely scratches the surface when it comes to explaining variance.

so yea **** wasting any modicum of our limited energy on variance. it's about as as useful as licking a pinecone.

good on ya, keep it up.
08-04-2023 , 08:20 PM
Any graphs from global in the stakes you are crushing?
08-04-2023 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr
Any graphs from global in the stakes you are crushing?
Global is untracked, I don’t have any results for any stakes on there. Some people use a chrome extension, but it is against TOS and you risk being banned. But losses mostly came from 1/2, 0.5/1 has been very profitable.
08-05-2023 , 02:02 AM
How you know you are playing well if you cant review your hands and stats? Maybe when you take shots you are more aggro or less aggro maybe you are calling more or you play more loose etc or maybe you are running good at plo100 and you think you are paying well. 2k hands in stars dont really mean anything. I had 15k hands at 30ev bb /100 and i started learning plo a month ago, so you understand i am pretty sh.it in the game since i switched from nl
08-05-2023 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr
How you know you are playing well if you cant review your hands and stats? Maybe when you take shots you are more aggro or less aggro maybe you are calling more or you play more loose etc or maybe you are running good at plo100 and you think you are paying well. 2k hands in stars dont really mean anything. I had 15k hands at 30ev bb /100 and i started learning plo a month ago, so you understand i am pretty sh.it in the game since i switched from nl
Yeah that’s a big issue. The 2k hands on stars was to review my preflop and postflop lines. I truly believe Im playing well though and +ev in the games, just need to endure a while longer. It’s helpful that I have 200k hands tracked from before with reasonable preflop and postflop stats.
08-05-2023 , 03:39 PM
One additional rule to help escape downswing asap… 4 tables max until we r out of downswing… I think it is lower hourly but honestly right now I care more about minimizing my risk of moving down again to 50PLO. So any winrate increase is very attractive to me.
08-05-2023 , 04:13 PM
Are you still part of a stable? I have a similar situation and am in my final year of undergrad and have a ton of time to play and a good amount of history on pt4 and was wondering if trying to find a stable/backing is worth it or if I should just grind micros on my own roll until I can increase stakes.
08-05-2023 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jdjd98
Are you still part of a stable? I have a similar situation and am in my final year of undergrad and have a ton of time to play and a good amount of history on pt4 and was wondering if trying to find a stable/backing is worth it or if I should just grind micros on my own roll until I can increase stakes.
Not part of a stable anymore. I think it’s worth to join a stable if the coaching is really good. But otherwise not. Would also be wary of taking on a bad split for yourself.
08-05-2023 , 05:57 PM
Thanks for the response. I want to shift to tournaments full time and don't feel like i can risk getting shafted by variance. I consider myself reasonably well studied and I feel like some of the "coaching" I have seen is questionable.
08-06-2023 , 07:17 PM
Lost another 8Bi in an hour on Global... My advice is stay away from there for low-midstakes PLO. Going to play through the $300 I have left on the account, but won't be redepositing for now. I have 35% rakeback on party again, have always had good results on there. Waiting on a Skrill deposit to go through to test the Winamax games. Don't know where else I'll look in order to get more volume, probably stars. Between those 3 sites I should be good.
08-07-2023 , 03:40 AM
for me is not global is GGpoker , its like a jinxed site, the level is terrible and I keep losing is frustrating
08-07-2023 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by KnoxKnoxJoke
Lost another 8Bi in an hour on Global... My advice is stay away from there for low-midstakes PLO.
I know it's impossible to say for 100% certainty, but looking back at your last couple months on Global:

What % of your losses do you think are due to "We got all the money in, flipped the cards up, I was ahead, and he got there by the river"
What % of your losses do you think are due to "We got the money in in a std spot and he had the top of his range"/"I made a std play and he called with a hand that's a pure fold"
08-07-2023 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by EvolvedSavage
I know it's impossible to say for 100% certainty, but looking back at your last couple months on Global:

What % of your losses do you think are due to "We got all the money in, flipped the cards up, I was ahead, and he got there by the river"
What % of your losses do you think are due to "We got the money in in a std spot and he had the top of his range"/"I made a std play and he called with a hand that's a pure fold"
I’ve been bluffcaught by pure folds by fish a decent amt, but that’s not really meaningful. Mostly losing a lot of all-ins. Have seen some absurd raise folds and bet folds at low SPR, and have had ppl flat AA instead of 5bet jamming, to dodge a “bad” flop (if you know there’s suits/straight board you have to fade bc of collusion it could make sense). Overall my ev line is almost certainly negative, and I’m probably running 25-30bi below it in the last couple weeks.
08-07-2023 , 03:57 PM
Another issue I forgot to mention is that a lot of these Global tables I have tagged as 4-5 fish. But these are the same games im getting toasted in. I guess if something is too good to be true, it probably is.
08-07-2023 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by KnoxKnoxJoke
I’ve been bluffcaught by pure folds by fish a decent amt, but that’s not really meaningful.
Not meaningful like it was only for 5-10bb at a time? Because that sort of info seems pretty meaningful

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Originally Posted by KnoxKnoxJoke
Another issue I forgot to mention is that a lot of these Global tables I have tagged as 4-5 fish. But these are the same games im getting toasted in. I guess if something is too good to be true, it probably is.
Are you tagging them with notes on the specific derivations from correct play you've seen?
08-07-2023 , 04:30 PM
Global plays like live tables, most likely due to the interface, and not being able to track hands. Play is so loose and soft that it increases variance quite a bit. Over the last 30 months, I've had about 8 losing months. 3 of which were all in a row (about $30k). Made it all back in 2.5 weeks when the run bad stopped. That's just how Global goes. Its like being able to multi table at a card room.

I wouldn't try anything close to GTO on Global either, btw.. everyone is too exploitable. Very specific population tendencies, vulnerable to an alert, exploitative player. The best way to lose money on Global is to try to multi-table a GTO style, at least for me. Stick to 4 or less tables, take notes and hunt the whales.

I sound like a shill, but Global has been good to me, even though sometimes I CANNOT WIN AN ALL IN TO SAVE MY LIFE
08-07-2023 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by EvolvedSavage
Not meaningful like it was only for 5-10bb at a time? Because that sort of info seems pretty meaningful



Are you tagging them with notes on the specific derivations from correct play you've seen?
Fish just being stations isn’t meaningful to being a game I shouldn’t play. Probably getting (correctly) bluff caught in a lot of small pots, having my value folded to etc. I don’t get too specific with notes, especially on fish, as a lot of the questionable decisions come from emotion. And they often play differently day to day.
08-07-2023 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by delivery guy
Global plays like live tables, most likely due to the interface, and not being able to track hands. Play is so loose and soft that it increases variance quite a bit. Over the last 30 months, I've had about 8 losing months. 3 of which were all in a row (about $30k). Made it all back in 2.5 weeks when the run bad stopped. That's just how Global goes. Its like being able to multi table at a card room.

I wouldn't try anything close to GTO on Global either, btw.. everyone is too exploitable. Very specific population tendencies, vulnerable to an alert, exploitative player. The best way to lose money on Global is to try to multi-table a GTO style, at least for me. Stick to 4 or less tables, take notes and hunt the whales.

I sound like a shill, but Global has been good to me, even though sometimes I CANNOT WIN AN ALL IN TO SAVE MY LIFE
Hunting whales is great. Some of the regs punt so hard as well. CTB in particular has had so many questionable hands I find it hard to believe he is beating the games lol.

Regardless, I would consider a 40bi downswing at a live card room cause for serious concern.
08-08-2023 , 02:35 AM
Switched to GG while waiting on winamax deposit and immediately win 10bi… I really should trust my intuition more. Would have saved me like 8k lol

      
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