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04-05-2013 , 11:15 AM
Wicked thread and updates. Subbed!

I'm looking to start adding MTTs to my main game which is husng hypers.

In your opinion, which would you recommend: bigger field/play on PS/FTP vs. smaller and softer field/play on euro sites.

I'm a complete beginner to MTT so at the start just want to improve my game a lot. Thanks!
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04-08-2013 , 01:31 PM
Do you have a top five for the Masters?
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04-09-2013 , 06:30 PM
Are you JPeazy713 on FTP? If so, I apologise for the horrific two-outer I just laid on you in the Triceratops.
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04-09-2013 , 07:44 PM
Nm, guess it wasn't you haha, won a pot vs some guy with AA>54s on 8556.
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04-09-2013 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Buster the Clown
Do you have a top five for the Masters?
If i were to pick 5 man team (mostly consisting of favorites) at current odds i'd go with...

(decimal odds, current betfair prices)

Scott 30
Donald 44
Garcia 55
Dufner 85
Simpson 90
BVP 160

ok thats 6, added bvp. These guys have not been that well backed so i could be wrong. dont really like posting picks, most of the time u look like an idiot.

i also like these guys but the price has already contracted,

Stricker 70
Hanson 85
Furyk 95

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Originally Posted by KelvinKe
Wicked thread and updates. Subbed!

I'm looking to start adding MTTs to my main game which is husng hypers.

In your opinion, which would you recommend: bigger field/play on PS/FTP vs. smaller and softer field/play on euro sites.

I'm a complete beginner to MTT so at the start just want to improve my game a lot. Thanks!

thanks, i started off playing on small euro sites and then made my way to PS later.

I think its best to play on multiple sites always, so that you have the widest game selection possible so that you can play your optimal buyin range.
If your new to MTT's its better to keep your field size small so that you become comfortable with late game play. Id recommend mixing both, maybe not playing full tilt at all until you increase your abi.

Week 14 Update

Kinda long emo rant incoming... tldr but good for me to write it all out, get my head straight.

I'm really struggling at the moment mentally. Ive completely lost my drive to work. I'm pretty sure i'm completely burned out. If you've been following my thread since early 2012, i've been playing poker, then working on sports and playing poker pretty much non stop. I just checked sharkscope and in the last 15 months i've played 15,000 MTTSNGS and 10,000 Scheduled MTTs.

Its kinda difficult to describe how i'm feeling right now, so i'll go over my sunday session.

Sunday Session

My bodyclocks been getting late, (which is ok as i want to watch the masters) so woke up 5pm. Briefly did my golf bets, went through my pre play routine; eat, golf bets, review, shower etc. I had planned to reward myself for playing to go wakeboarding in the morning, so set up my session to finish at 7am.

Started playing at 9:45pm, first 5 hours going fine, playing well, thinking through everything nicely, happy, tracking my golf bets and looking forward to going wakeboarding in the morning. Everything ok.

Got to about 3am and suddenly i started to feel tired, a bit like jetlag. I felt like i just wanted to stop there and then, but i had just started a few reg speed majors at 1am local, so still had a long time to play it out. i kept reggin $30+ mttsngs tho as i felt i not doing so was missing out on value and since i was playing poker i felt i should try to maximize the efficiency of my session.

Mistakes started to creep in, fatigue from long session and tired from being up so late, I was trying my best but all i wanted to do was finish and go wakeboarding but still had like 3-4 hours left of play. I then started to make colossal mistakes deep in some biggish sunday tournaments, and got more tilty. I was also getting owned by good regs a bit. By the end i was just clicking buttons and i know i was -ev in the latter tourneys i reg'd. i had an urge just to punt all my stacks and stop. I was so pissed off and upset about a couple of big obvious mistakes i made.

Once id busted my last tourneys, i just closed my pc down, didn't check results and tried to erase the last few hours of hell from my mind.

Hate-Hate Relationship with Poker

So this is becoming typical of lots of my sessions. In other sessions, its more that i'm getting bored putting in huge effort to win $500 in a $22fo, while my golf betting swinging for $ thousands. If i was enjoying poker, the $ amount wouldn't matter so much, but right now every session the first 4 hours are ok, but by the end i end up hating it more and more as the hours go by.

I remember before, the time that i used to enjoy the most of my session would be the last hours while deep in a MTT, but right now its the time i hate the most. I just want to be doing something else.

Part of it is being chained to the computer with only 5 min breaks. Not having the time to eat proper meals, or even have a conversation as every second is so precious. Its funny tho once i finish a session, often i go back to the computer but my mindset has changed and i'm relaxed again since i know i can come and go as i please.

This isn't just poker though, theres a bunch of golf betting upgrades that i know i should do, but i just dont have the will to do the hours of programming.

Earlier in the year i would wake up, do my golf bets, do my review get on with it excited to make progress towards my goals, right now i do my bets, think about doing my review and really just want to do something else.

Holiday...

SO IDK what to do. I think maybe i should go to UK next week for a couple of weeks and get away from everything and go see some family and friends. If i stay here i'll probably just piss around putting on golf bets, playing computer games, going gym and wakeboarding. I'm actually really enjoying all of those things right now, but i'm not progressing with that.

Back in 2009 when i quit poker to bet of golf, i became a bit lazy and was content on just putting on golf bets, work on my golf stuff here and there, more if i was on a downer, and then watch golf and sit around not doing that much, happy that i could make $ while doing other stuff i enjoyed. "Working" like that made my net worth slowly shrink and then monetary pressures kicked in and a lot of stress occurred.

I'm determined NOT to make the mistakes again. I realize that i'm lucky to be able to make a lot of $ gambling, its NOT going to be around for ever, and i NEED to set myself up for the future NOW.

Yeah, so i think i just need to get away from everything for a bit. A big part of life at home in Philippines is working hard, but its hard to relax as there is always work to be done when working from home. I feel like i need a break not just from poker, but two plus two (including this thread), all variance (including golf bets) and all day to day life stresses. So going away for a bit seems like the best plan.

I think performance related jobs require a lot more breaks, time off then other jobs. I guess pushing myself to the maximum like i've been has taken a lot out of me, i've have never worked as hard ever then i have this year so i guess its only natural that i'm "dead" na.

I welcome feedback on all what i wrote, good or bad.

Results

Short Results update, dont feel like doing a long results update, or talking about goals.

Poker

Month



Golf

Got the major upgrade on my model done, didn't go so well this week tho.



Upcoming Week

Got a **** loads of money in play for the...



which is kinda little stressful but pretty exciting. Bets are going well with nearly all markets moving my direction, i hope variance doesn't bite tho!

Thread Updates & A Positive Note

I'm going to stop updating this thread until i got my **** together again. Not much point if i'm not playing and its another pressure.

As this updates been pretty negative all in all, i'm gonna post a graph since the start me keeping a thread in PG&C to show myself (and the world! haha) what i can do WHEN i can sort myself out. Want to finish this update on a high rather then dwell on recent stuff.



GLA and thanks for following.
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04-09-2013 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by theginger45
Nm, guess it wasn't you haha, won a pot vs some guy with AA>54s on 8556.
not me i'm Jaypahhee, nice beat.
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04-09-2013 , 10:23 PM
the breaks gonna help you a lot, just get away from it for a while. gl in the Masters
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04-10-2013 , 04:45 AM
Wow awesome thread definitely subbed! And a little question: what software do you use to grind mtt's?
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04-10-2013 , 05:28 AM
Pokerbreaks are def good from time to time. Poker musn't be a game you have to play, you need to have fun as well. GL. I'm sure you will bounce back after a little break
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04-10-2013 , 06:57 AM
In order to trully love something at some point you have to hate it.
I think best you can do now take longish break from everything like you mentioned and enjoy just being around relatives,good food,exercise and being at the moment in general.You spent so many hours on it so I think its impossible that love for game will just simply vanish.I think key here is to ignore it totally for awhile and let it come to you naturally again which I believe will pretty soon.
Since poker is big part of our life and based on making long term EV we usually subconsciously take that in real life as well.As a result it means we tend to sacrifice family/friends by working overtimes while projecting future life in our minds.
Sort of long bs I wrote but sum it all - just take time off from poker completely and you ll be back hungry again.

Best of luck!
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04-10-2013 , 07:09 AM
I think forcing yourself to play when you don't want to is one of the worst things an MTTer can do. Not wanting to do something is your brain telling you you're not in any condition to do it effectively, so if I ever don't feel like playing on a particular day, I don't. I know that I love poker enough that I'll never have that many days where I don't feel like playing, so there's a good balance. Once it becomes an obligation, your game is gonna get shot to ****.

Taking breaks is always good too, sounds like you could use one. Just don't think about poker for a week and you'll be fine. GL!
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04-10-2013 , 07:33 AM
Your post decribes evry single thing where im at also, everytime i know i "have to" grind session i just feel like im going to electric chair. And while grinding just wishing i was doing something else instead of sitting all alone and feeling like crap. Since the start of the yea i dont know did i reg 5 sunday millions total, cos by then i would already stop regging.
Overall just awfull place to be in.
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04-11-2013 , 08:43 AM
Good luck with the masters, this must be exciting for you
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04-11-2013 , 03:39 PM
Can we just turn this into a masters discussion next 4 days haha. Got that giddy feeling
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04-15-2013 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JayPez
If i were to pick 5 man team (mostly consisting of favorites) at current odds i'd go with...

(decimal odds, current betfair prices)

Scott 30
Donald 44
Garcia 55
Dufner 85
Simpson 90
BVP 160
Nice
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04-15-2013 , 09:52 AM
I hope u layed Tiger for $1mirrion
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04-16-2013 , 11:33 AM
1st off, thanks for all the support and some awesome responses here and via pm. I'm catching a flight early tomorrow, dont have time to reply to them all, but will give them the response they deserve when i get back from my break. thanks a lot

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Originally Posted by Turn
Wow awesome thread definitely subbed! And a little question: what software do you use to grind mtt's?
thanks, i use HEM 2, Custom Title Bar, Stack & Tile, Tableninja 1, need to have a look at tableninja 2 but havn't got round to it yet.

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Originally Posted by M1ghtyducks
Your post decribes evry single thing where im at also, everytime i know i "have to" grind session i just feel like im going to electric chair. And while grinding just wishing i was doing something else instead of sitting all alone and feeling like crap. Since the start of the yea i dont know did i reg 5 sunday millions total, cos by then i would already stop regging.
Overall just awfull place to be in.
Sorry to here that MD. After my break im going to try to come up with some methods and ideas to make sure i dont burn myself out again, and come up with ways for a more stable enjoyable grind. hopefully it may be useful for others.

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Originally Posted by ValuetownJL
Good luck with the masters, this must be exciting for you
ya, drama filled fun, loved it!

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Originally Posted by jaimestaples
Can we just turn this into a masters discussion next 4 days haha. Got that giddy feeling
haha, the days before the masters are like counting down the days before christmas as a kid. :P

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Originally Posted by ValuetownJL
Nice
(lucky)

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Originally Posted by Glanza_Mike
I hope u layed Tiger for $1mirrion
was a big red thoughout, got very lucky with the 15th hole on round 2. 4 shot swing, he probably would have won if it wasn't for that + all the perlava after it.

Week 15 Update

Quick update.

Golf Betting



Not much point saying the story as i assume everyone into golf would have watched it. So brief recap of my bets

Day 1:

Got off to a great start with Leishman and Garcia taking the first round lead netting me +$6000.

Day 2:

Was going pretty ****ty with tiger playing and running great until the 15th where hit hit the flagstick and went in the water. That saved me directly about $3000 with Piercy winning the 3ball, and him not being 2nd round leader. Lost around -$2000.

Day 3:

Set bets up, went to the gym to come back to the market going nuts whether tiger was gonna be disqualified. While in the gym i got about $1500 worth of unmatched backs matched on various markets on tiger as the market swung all over the place. While still a large overall red, wasn't sure if i wanted him disqualified or not as bets are NOT voided if hes disqualified! 2 shot penalty seemed fair for him and my bets!

Started betting a lot more 2balls, won a bit in them but lost the 3rd round leader -$1000ish on the day.

Day 4:

Had some big reds down the field but couldn't really see past Snedeker, Cabrera, Scott and Day winning it. Cabrera was -$10000 after day 3, i bet around $2k on him about 7 decimal to get him to +$4k. Day was +$1k, Snedeker was +6k and Scott was +$18k.

**** swong around in the final round, didn't touch the in play betting until scott was on the 16th. Was confident day was gonna slide back. Once Scott became favourite i started hedging small amounts when it looked like a "flip".

His putt on 18...

"COME ON YOU AUSSIES"



****ing awesome, layed off a bit at 1.19, but then Cabrera ruined the party birding the last.

So off to play off... after the hedging i was +15k on scott and +$10k on cabrera, but that point i was tired of doing the in play betting and just wanted to let it slide and watch and enjoy and "flip" for it...



All Markets

Place markets went well at +$4k but did really ****ty in the final day 4 balls where i got overexcited and probably overbet. Top Nationality markets also went down the tubes on the back 9 and dropped a couple of k. Won +$1700 on nationwide tour event

All Markets: +$21652





although PC took £2100 yesterday.

Garph of masters bets by markets.




All in all tho ran great!

Week Ahead

Off to Boracay tomorrow, but betting set up for this week before the off and then resume it i get back Saturday. Then off to UK next week for 10 days. Be back for "The Players" and pokering then. Seems like a long enough break.

GLA
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04-16-2013 , 12:24 PM
Enjoy your break!
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04-16-2013 , 12:26 PM
Enjoy the break man. Such a sick week.
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04-16-2013 , 02:16 PM
Just joining this thread. This is so sick and fun to follow. Thanks for doing this. Keep up the great work. Glgl!!!
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04-17-2013 , 10:27 AM
Nice Masters!
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04-17-2013 , 11:24 AM
Sick run in the Masters, i was really happy Scott won, he has an excellent swing and deserves it. Though i agree that Tiger most likely would have taken it down if his ball didn't bink the pin and roll back in the water.

What u coming to UK for? It's cold here u know
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04-17-2013 , 11:38 AM
might be the most interesting and motivating PG&C thread i've read.
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05-06-2013 , 06:15 AM
Updates pls!
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05-08-2013 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ready 2 win
Enjoy your break!
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Originally Posted by jaimestaples
Enjoy the break man. Such a sick week.
Thanks I Did!

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Originally Posted by Glanza_Mike
What u coming to UK for? It's cold here u know
Yeah i'm from UK so visiting friends and family, ran good with the weather past week or so.

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Originally Posted by nejuokai
In order to trully love something at some point you have to hate it.
I think best you can do now take longish break from everything like you mentioned and enjoy just being around relatives,good food,exercise and being at the moment in general.You spent so many hours on it so I think its impossible that love for game will just simply vanish.I think key here is to ignore it totally for awhile and let it come to you naturally again which I believe will pretty soon.
Since poker is big part of our life and based on making long term EV we usually subconsciously take that in real life as well.As a result it means we tend to sacrifice family/friends by working overtimes while projecting future life in our minds.
Sort of long bs I wrote but sum it all - just take time off from poker completely and you ll be back hungry again.

Best of luck!
Thanks, i really like this post and took some of it to heart while away. I agree with nearly all of it, especially the love hate part. Its true tho, say u have a massive fight with a gf or someone the reason it gets so enraged is cause you love them, guess its similar when loving anything.

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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
Pokerbreaks are def good from time to time. Poker musn't be a game you have to play, you need to have fun as well. GL. I'm sure you will bounce back after a little break
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Originally Posted by theginger45
I think forcing yourself to play when you don't want to is one of the worst things an MTTer can do. Not wanting to do something is your brain telling you you're not in any condition to do it effectively, so if I ever don't feel like playing on a particular day, I don't. I know that I love poker enough that I'll never have that many days where I don't feel like playing, so there's a good balance. Once it becomes an obligation, your game is gonna get shot to ****.

Taking breaks is always good too, sounds like you could use one. Just don't think about poker for a week and you'll be fine. GL!
Yeah, thanks for this ginger and goliath. I had become so fixated on goals and progress, i lost site on the fact that this is a game you need to enjoy to withstand the negative points of it. Your right if you don't enjoy it, it all becomes so laborious that your game and mental game suffers.

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Originally Posted by backrhodes14
Just joining this thread. This is so sick and fun to follow. Thanks for doing this. Keep up the great work. Glgl!!!
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Originally Posted by cjmcculley
might be the most interesting and motivating PG&C thread i've read.
thanks, glad you enjoy the thread.

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Originally Posted by ozziwar
Updates pls!
Didn't update as wanted to get away from 2+2 for a bit, so 'ere goes...

Week 16 Update

Golf Betting

Setup golf bets then went to boracay, got back on the saturday and resume'd betting. So missed a couple of days of betting opportunity (i think of them similar to streets in poker).

European Tour

Open de Espana

Was looking good with Marc Warren +$5k or so and 2 shots up with 5 holes to go and then went;

bogey () - bogey () - birdie () - bogey () - bogey ()



to miss out on a 8 hole hole sudden death 3 way playoff. Other guys were -$2k but Jacquelin won for -$4k

PGA Tour

RBC Heritage

So on to pga tour, **** was looking pretty good with win market ev looking at +$2k, went to bed expecting a good result. Also bet heavily on a Charley Hoffman top 5 finish at short odds (about 4k at 1.33).



Woke up to find to see a GMAC win -$2.7k, won of the worst results possible and hoffman shot 6 over to 6th -$3.1k.

All Markets

-$9,954



So pretty ****ty way to leave for my holiday. Sorry didn't update but had no time after i sorted out all **** i had to do before my flight.

Week 17 Update

Golf Betting

Thought about not betting as i left for my holiday on tuesday as i wouldn't be able to bet after the tourney had started, but the degen in me wanted the sweat. (So ALL IN Preflop ). So i setup my bets monday and then flew out early tuesday for my flight.

European Tour

Ballantines Champions (South Korea)

Both events were looking pretty ****ty by sunday, so ****ty that a -$15k week was looking quite possible. I didn't wanna face such big loss 2 weeks in a row, so i "panicked" and just hedged the european tour front runners to -$1k market ev. Everyone apart from Brett Rumford who had no liquitidy to lay for a few hundred at 13.5 so i didn't bother.



I didn't watch it, but he won and was ecstatic to see an extra +$8k in my account after the final day went perfectly.

PGA Tour

Zurich Classic

So at this point i was up +$10k on the week (+2k on 1st round leader bets) so i didn't bother hedging the pga tour event and figured just to let it slide with all positions wide open. My market ev was -$3k, I was pretty certain i would drop a couple of thousand...



Went worse then that tho with Billy Horschel winning giving me the biggest loss on a single market for the year at -$6.7k.

All Markets

+$5127



So super lucky to bounce back with a profitable week.

Week 18 Update

Didn't gamble all week!

The Week Ahead

Got back late Tuesday. Played a short session today and will be pokering all week. Will update results and thoughts i've had about how to structure sessions to prevent future burnout for next weeks update. Only Golf to bet on this week is "The Players", bets all done, should be a fun week.

Refreshed and Feels Good TO BEEE BACKKKK!!!

GLA
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