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No limit holdem Midstakes grinder, lets move up together?! No limit holdem Midstakes grinder, lets move up together?!

10-08-2023 , 11:24 PM
Hi 2+2,

I'm starting this thread because i think it will help me abit with my motivation.

Currently playing mainly 2-5$ online and also higher live.

In this thread focus will mainly be for online poker, expect handhistories, some start talk and ask me questions if you want.

I've been clicking midstakes for quite some time but i'm pretty confident i have the skills to move up, atleast 5-10 online but probably higher imo, a matter off bankroll and dicipline.

My downside is that i tend to be too comfortable. Wich holds my volume back and hold me back from taking shots at higher stakes. So main goal here will be to play more and take more shots!

I will be unnonymous in this thread, but can spoil i'm in my late 20s and living in Europe.
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10-08-2023 , 11:29 PM


Hand from yesterdays grind. Unfortunately got called, but i really like this bluff and it's mandatroy in my opinion.



Facing a whale here, would you call?

How do i make ''spoilers'' ? I've never used 2+2

Last edited by granDerobb; 10-08-2023 at 11:34 PM.
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10-08-2023 , 11:47 PM
I’d just call both
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10-09-2023 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
I’d just call both
Higher EV to ship Ac8o
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10-09-2023 , 06:34 PM
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Facing a whale here, would you call?

How do i make ''spoilers'' ? I've never used 2+2




highlight then select [spoil] icon
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10-09-2023 , 07:16 PM
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highlight then select [spoil] icon
Thanks
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10-09-2023 , 07:18 PM
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Thanks


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10-09-2023 , 07:21 PM
AKo herocall

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10-09-2023 , 07:26 PM


Think this is fine, but what do we do on the river?

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Though spot against good reg, call or fold?


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10-09-2023 , 07:44 PM
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Think this is fine, but what do we do on the river?

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Though spot against good reg, call or fold?


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You can post the HH text and just select what you want to spoil. Instead of posting images.

Hand 2- doesn't villain have quite a bit of sets/straights/2p here? (except AAA) Turn and river sizings are too big imo
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10-09-2023 , 07:55 PM
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You can post the HH text and just select what you want to spoil. Instead of posting images.

Hand 2- doesn't villain have quite a bit of sets/straights/2p here? (except AAA) Turn and river sizings are too big imo
Hand 2 AQ: Yeah, he should slowplay some sets/2pairs i think straights fastplay mostly. My line is pretty normal, can low frequency checkback turn/river. But mainly we have a valuebet here as played- still bunch of Ax/9x+gutters etc that have to mix call against 3 barrel so AJ-AK gets to valuebet often when ranges are this wide. Sucks to face jam, basically hoping that he will turn 89 type hands into bluff, wich i thought he would maybe do to much off ingame, but its probably a bad call.
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10-09-2023 , 08:07 PM
I like value betting here, just smaller. I think it's pretty easy to value own yourself here or not get any action with larger sizings. Your range has other hands that prefer larger sizings and go for stacks doesn't it? TPGK is in a pretty awkward spot BUvsBB on that run out.
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10-09-2023 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by swerbs22
I like value betting here, just smaller. I think it's pretty easy to value own yourself here or not get any action with larger sizings. Your range has other hands that prefer larger sizings and go for stacks doesn't it? TPGK is in a pretty awkward spot BUvsBB on that run out.
Yeah, you could choose like 50-60% sizings instead, i went around 70% its not a big deal in my opinion. You are correct that AQ-AK is strating to get thin, it's actually mixing checkback like half the time and i was not betting it 100% of the time ingame because we are abit worried about getting xjammed and then hand is around 0EV.
Yes you are correct that we have other hands that wants to go larger, i would play this size with mainly AQ-AK and 2pairs and allin w sets+for value
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10-09-2023 , 09:44 PM
All your hands look good sofar, im not a huge fan calling 89s pre op vs 3b tho, it just performs so **** against their 3b range postflop. But people tend to be greedy and never checkback good stuff here so once you do this you probobly getting plenty folds river vs jam.

AQ just betfold, I would never check it back river though, people tend to hero their shitty Ax, 98/97etc here instead of turning it into bluffs. But once shoved on we have so many better hands to calldown, and on this board FI can have tons off twopair+. Most pair+straightdraw might even raise on turn aswell so probobly underbluffed line by FI.

AKo vs Whale is kinda whatever from whale to whale, some tend to mergebluff things that beat AK there tho so gotta be a little careful.
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10-10-2023 , 11:55 AM
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All your hands look good sofar, im not a huge fan calling 89s pre op vs 3b tho, it just performs so **** against their 3b range postflop. But people tend to be greedy and never checkback good stuff here so once you do this you probobly getting plenty folds river vs jam.

AQ just betfold, I would never check it back river though, people tend to hero their shitty Ax, 98/97etc here instead of turning it into bluffs. But once shoved on we have so many better hands to calldown, and on this board FI can have tons off twopair+. Most pair+straightdraw might even raise on turn aswell so probobly underbluffed line by FI.

AKo vs Whale is kinda whatever from whale to whale, some tend to mergebluff things that beat AK there tho so gotta be a little careful.
Yeah i like your thought process agree with everything here. I im pretty confident AK is +EV call tho and we shoudnt mix fold here. But its indeed uncomfortable to herocall A high, we sometimes loose to a low pair bluffing, but still just too much air in range.
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10-12-2023 , 09:59 AM
Yesterdays grind was okey, felt like i was playing really good. Unfortunately lost the 2 biggest pots, 400bb pots vs massive whale with very strong hands.




Meh spot, 45% vpip whale. Just have to payoff and expect some bluffs and maybe some AQ-AK, but mostly loosing ofc.


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10-24-2023 , 09:51 AM
Hey guys, i will try to post more stuff here. First time using 2+2, so any tips/feedback to get the thread rolling i would appreciate. What do you want to se? People like daily handhistories?
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10-24-2023 , 10:27 AM
results graphs

hand histories are cool too.
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10-24-2023 , 02:46 PM
isn't the AQhh a massive punt? that's like rock bottom of range value bet on the river
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10-24-2023 , 02:53 PM
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isn't the AQhh a massive punt? that's like rock bottom of range value bet on the river
Agreed
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10-24-2023 , 03:46 PM
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Agreed

Massive punt is abit harsh

I play 2 sizings in this river spot, so for the 75% size i won't have alot of straights/sets- Some 2pairs+ gets mixed in to the small bet also but the smaller size will be much more capped/thin value than the overbet.

It's not a punt in theory, AK-AQ mixes call wich was my assumption ingame. In practice i don't recommend calling this and rather overfold. Unfortunately i got rekt this time by A5, wich is a very thin/low frequency jam so i might have punted this- Can't say for sure tho by one showdown how he would play 67,89 type hands. But folding and just calling 2p+ at low/midstakes is probably the best way to go indeed. PS. i had some reads, wich made me belive he was likely to overbluff wich is rare here.
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10-24-2023 , 03:55 PM


Been playing some relaxed 200NL last few days and running well/playing fine. Usually my volume is at 500 and planning to play more 1k aswell. When i work on strategical changes it's nice to play one or two stakes lower i feel like, untill you feel more comfortable.

Biggest pot of the month i played(Online). Live i lost one 8k$ pot, lol



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