I don't want to be 'that' guy....but you've played 45k hands and barely won 100bb.

Are you really seeing enough reasons to justify playing higher?

My mindset just changed and I'm confident i can make a profit as long as I put in big volume. I'm studying GTO and using that as my template (unless its best to deviate) with gtowizard . .

My winrate maybe isn't that high, as en example:

If my winrate realistically speaking is 3bb/100, even after 200k hands one could have a losing streak due to the crafty magic of variance



I'm learning to start folding more and realize most people are boring nits and that they don't deserve to be payed off, and also not being spewy and barreling off with air just so the red-line becomes big.

Time will tell if I'm a losing player or not, I used to play 100-200nl back in 2012 (started from 4NL) but obviously the games have become a lot tougher. I didn't play at all during 2014-2017.

Do you want to make a bet that if I don't reach 100NL by the end of 2023, you will get $50 (25BIs $2,500 bankroll. - Roll is currently $343). And if I make it you give me $50 ?

Appreciate the constructive critiscism

What's your BRM strategy? $343 / $25 = 14BIs for 25NL. To me, that sounds like it's cutting it a bit fine. At what point would you go from 25NL to 50NL?

I've seen the variance calculators and whilst they do have some merit, you seem to be running over EV. I know all-in EV is one element and you can get unlucky running KK into AA a lot or getting 90% of money in ahead on flop and then put the last 10% in on the turn when behind which won't be reflected in the graph.

Personally (for my own confidence), I would probably try to get a more stable upward trending graph before looking to move up the stakes. I'm also unconvinced of the merits of GTO at these stakes. Especially if you're playing Fast tables where table dynamics is less of a factor and you're in a large pool.

What you have to realise is that people in the pool are sitting there mashing the fold button until they get premium hands and pocket pairs. Yes.....you do get some recs who want to gamble with suited connectors and 3bet light. But i'm not sure whether you really need to worry about 3 betting some junk hands for balance.

I'm not here to root against you so I don't see it as necessary to start making wagers.

Have you considered playing the regular tables? I find them a bit slower but my winrate seems to be a bit higher compared to the Fast games.

25 to 50, probably 20-25BIs for 50nl.

I have played reg tables, my winrate would probably be double compared to fast tables. However its boring to open 6 tables for some reason and I usually sit out a lot on the fast tables, with reg tables you cant really sit out when you want... they're much softer I might play those more than fast tables, must develop a better mindset.


Some hand:

Villian is 20/16 12% 3b after 400 hands.

Would you bet the same size as me? What to make of his raise on the turn, how would you proceed...

GG Poker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 124 BB
SB: 90.7 BB
BB: 129.2 BB
UTG: 103.8 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 229.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, MP raises to 2.2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 4.8 BB

Flop: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 2 2 9
MP checks, Hero bets 8.5 BB, MP calls 8.5 BB

Turn: (32.5 BB, 2 players) 9
MP checks, Hero bets 22 BB, MP raises to 52.6 BB,

Get rid of the ego, man. You have to be honest to yourself. Look in the mirror and ask yourself why you're playing poker. What do you want out of this? At the tables, what do you want out of your herocalls?
Poker is about making good decisions. Your ego/self-image is confusing you.

Had to move down to 5NL and rebuild my bankroll. Roll is currently $198, so I have roughly 20bi's for 10NL. I will start grinding 10NL the next day... Move up to 25NL if I reach $500

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Had to move down to 5NL again lol roll at $156, this time I will use 25-20 brm so I will move up to 10NL if i reach $250.

I think you need to find a stake which you're comfortably able to crush. Build the bankroll and then think about moving up.

Last week you were talking about playing 25NL and now going back to 5NL.

Forget the GTO crap and trying to bluff people out of hands / making sick hero calls. Nit it up, stick to the fundamentals and get ready to fold a lot.

Then see where you stand with it all.

Is this too thin vs reg,, would you xf (what's the supposed to bluff with...) ? Board is blocking many FDs he proabbly don't got too many, maybe AsQx will call i dunno

GG Poker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 300.2 BB
Hero (SB): 102.8 BB
BB: 113.8 BB
UTG: 227 BB
MP: 100.6 BB
CO: 289.4 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9 K

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.6 BB, Hero raises to 10.4 BB, fold, BTN calls 7.8 BB

Flop: (21.8 BB, 2 players) Q 3 J
Hero bets 7.6 BB, BTN calls 7.6 BB

Turn: (37 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 23.6 BB, BTN calls 23.6 BB

River: (84.2 BB, 2 players) T

Villian is 18/16 18% 3b over 260 hands.

I think cbetting is too thin, JJ got there, could easily have KK+. I don't think he 3/4 the flop with Jxss if he even got that in his range, and I block some FDs.

Would you c/f vs this sizing or play it any different?

GG Poker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 118.6 BB
BB: 110.6 BB
UTG: 128.2 BB
MP: 99.2 BB
CO: 118.8 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q Q

UTG raises to 2.6 BB, fold, CO raises to 8 BB, fold, Hero raises to 22 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 14 BB

Flop: (47.6 BB, 2 players) 7 J 6
Hero checks, CO bets 31.6 BB,

Scrap that "tighten up advice" thats just outdated.
That might net u some wins short term in ur current stake , but if u don't improve and just tighten up its meaningless.
K9s Hero easily shoves the river no other options.
QQ hand is easy call we're never folding on that type of texture when we check.
Your mostly not gonna have better hands to check/call with and if villian has JJ then not much we can do about it.
Villian can show up with alot of ATs AJs AKs 89s 9Ts JTs depending on his willingness to defend his 3bet IP.
against that big bet its fine to shove even ur gonna be left with 64bb into a pot of 110~~ so its fine to shove to deny some random hands that stab one and done there.

If u wanna crush them u need to find spots where they're weak and attack them.
SRP pots where they don't rep much or the board is overwhelmingly in ur favor and u can raise them off their hands.Most tight regs will fold almost anything to a XR on flop on a dry board.The way the player pool thinks is that when u raise its either value or semi-bluff with huge draw and when they don't see any good draw on the board they just fold ,because in their mind its most likely set and they don't wanna risk it.
People overfold so much on micros.

So are we saying that the 3b of K9 suited pre-flop from SB is a winning play in a fast format?

Play needs to be adjusted according to pool / players that you play with. At these stakes it's definitely going to be winning to play an 'unbalanced' strategy.

K9s is included as a 3bet in GTOwizard. I would say its winning vs a 45-50% range. He will fold some, call some (4b a little), decent overall equity and fold equity

Probably K9s pre is big spew on 10 NL , but as played its perfectly fine AI on the river.Tripple barrel on that type of texture with K9s is probably the only viable option or we just x/shove turn if we think villian is likely to bet weak range on the turn vs check.
I wouldn't recommend 3betting from SB very wide in fact you should probably look to 3bet very very tight from SB and widen the 3bet from BB.

GTO gameplans on micro stakes makes close to zero sense its just for reference.

Is this for 4 handed / 5 handed / 6 max / Full Ring? What about for the fast games which play a lot tighter.

Pulling up a GTO chart isn't always helpful without the context.

I'd hazard a guess that a lot of players aren't opening 45-50% of their hands from the button in this format at these stakes.

It's 6 max

isnt everyone a GTO wannabe these days now, like how many doesnt use pio or at least GTOwizard in these times? maybe I'm wrong

Nah. People just say it's GTO when they want to make spewy plays.

They don't really understand GTO and if everyone is playing GTO at the table then you're not going to make money.

Can you elaborate on why you think tightening up is the wrong strategy? There seems to be conflicting advice on 2+2 regarding a macro strategy between "nit it up" and "play aggressively because players at the micros overfold." Also curious what the other side thinks, and also it would be good to know if your strategy worked for you 3+ years ago, or if it is currently working for you. Just figured it would be a good discussion, and would help OP out (as well as myself.)

When people say nit it up or tighten it up.Most micro stakes reg take it ot extreme.
Tighten it up can be simply u just remove the btm 2% of ur range and 3bet abit less to have less bluff etc ,but currently most of the micro regs do that and they just become so tight that they don't have proper board coverage in most spots.

Example u play 2-3% tighter than u did before just to nit it up a bit.
EP MP CO will become basically a wash compared to other players ur gonna make money from ur premium hands basically the same way the other tight regs do and if u play ur hands better u'll make very slightly more.
BU/SB/BB u need to play poker to make money u cannot just tighten it up and ask ur premium hands to make money for u.Those are the 3 positions where u need to make money to make the difference.

The most money made in those spots is postflop and in those positions if u don't attack with good frequency ur simply not gonna be a good winner on any stake.

Compare ur stats to a winning player on a higher stake and the stats u wanna be looking at is stabbing/raising turn , river and u how u differ from those winning players.
The most money u can make is when u put ur opponents in though spots by attacking them.

Barely been playing cash lately, been grinding the spin & go's as well.

Here's monthly graphs so far:

Stayed up all nigt grinding. Got $35 from leaderboard races

15k hands =D how many hours is that?

18 hours mayne

Do you have rake contributed option?

no idea how to add that or what it even means. Isnt $136 exactly that is the rake amount, or does it seem to be too much?