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From NL2 to..... where? From NL2 to..... where?

04-06-2022 , 06:37 PM
Hello 2p2! I've been reading threads here for two months. Most of them are inspiring, and I enjoy them. Now it's time to start my own thread.

I'm always a competing guy. From WoW to Dota2, I always chased the best, and I made it. But everything stopped working when it came to poker. I started to play poker in 2014 when I was at the university. Since then, I have tried many kinds of game, HE, PLO, cash, MTT. But I never beat any of them. I was disappointed and thought that maybe I wasn't capable of poker, so I let it go. Things took a turn until last month. I forced myself to play seriously in a private game for a month for some reason, and I won a lot in that game because my opponents played so poorly. I realize that the only reason I can't beat poker is I'm not better than others on the table. I started to learn from websites and books. I learned several times in one month as I had learned in the previous years. I'm confident and ready for a challenge now.

I plan to move up from NL2, trying my best and see where I can touch. I play 1000 hands every day on 4 zoom tables. That costs 1 hr/day, which fits me most. I will share my results and some interesting hands here. Hopefully, you guys can talk with me. I find it's so hard to talk to friends about poker when you play it seriously, so I feel incredibly lonely in poker.

The first trip is from NL2 to NL5. It starts at $45.72. The goal is $150.

Not much to say. Fasten your seat belt. Let's go!
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04-06-2022 , 06:54 PM
Actually, I finished the first session before I started the thread. It's encouraging to win the first session. But there are still some mistakes. I think the biggest mistake is my mindset. I ran hot in the first 300 hands but then fell into fear of losing. This feeling kept me distracted until the session was about to end. I felt something churning in my stomach, and I needed to poop. It was less than 100 hands away, so I decided to finish the session first. The interesting thing was that the feeling took my mind off my fear, which set me free to play. Anyway, It's a good start.

BR: 49.22
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04-06-2022 , 07:08 PM
Here is the most interesting hand today. I felt villain mostly had a missed draw, and I knew he might have Axs which still beats me. But I thought that he had less Axs than the other combos. The moment I pressed the call button it occurred to me that all I had to do in this case was to raise back. But it's too late and I lost even though I was in control of the situation.
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100.5 BB
SB: 205.5 BB
BB: 115.5 BB
UTG: 283.5 BB
MP: 72.5 BB
Hero (CO): 330.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 K

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 3 3 5
BB checks, Hero bets 2 BB, BB raises to 7 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

Turn: (19.5 BB, 2 players) T
BB bets 15 BB, Hero calls 15 BB

River: (49.5 BB, 2 players) 5
BB bets 40 BB, Hero calls 40 BB

BB shows A 6 (Two Pair, Fives and Threes)
(Pre 62%, Flop 81%, Turn 70%)
Hero mucks 4 K (Two Pair, Fives and Threes)
(Pre 38%, Flop 19%, Turn 30%)
BB wins 125 BB
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04-07-2022 , 08:59 AM
Hey!

I wouldn't continue with this hand after a flop raise.
Yes, it's possible that to be balanced we have to continue with some of the strong bdfds, but in practice nl2 players don't have balanced check/raises and their ranges are shifted to the value side. Therefore, I would immediately fold this weak part of our range to a check/raise.

AP - don't bluff catch this type of opponent line.
The X/R - B - B line will never contain enough bluff to make a profitable call with K-high. Just fold and be sure you did the right thing.

Good luck on your journey!
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04-07-2022 , 11:47 AM
Another vote for fold flop. As played, fold river. A lot of micro players have a really, really hard time folding any ace. You will see an incredible amount of garbage A combos in your journey.

Also, why zoom? Personal preference? Regular micro play is fun because it's 100% exploitative and 0% GTO. Even if you have big leaks, you can exploit bad players with even bigger leaks. You get the 70/6 stations, the 12/8 uber nits, the 60/45 loose spastics. I don't think you can have the same amount of fun at zoom tables.
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04-07-2022 , 05:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by slyless
Hey!

I wouldn't continue with this hand after a flop raise.
Yes, it's possible that to be balanced we have to continue with some of the strong bdfds, but in practice nl2 players don't have balanced check/raises and their ranges are shifted to the value side. Therefore, I would immediately fold this weak part of our range to a check/raise.

AP - don't bluff catch this type of opponent line.
The X/R - B - B line will never contain enough bluff to make a profitable call with K-high. Just fold and be sure you did the right thing.

Good luck on your journey!
Hey, slyless! Thanks for your advice. I believe you're right. Maybe some of them are bluffs, but it's not enough for us to call profitably. I will put away these illusory thoughts and move on.
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04-07-2022 , 05:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eisenkreuz
Another vote for fold flop. As played, fold river. A lot of micro players have a really, really hard time folding any ace. You will see an incredible amount of garbage A combos in your journey.

Also, why zoom? Personal preference? Regular micro play is fun because it's 100% exploitative and 0% GTO. Even if you have big leaks, you can exploit bad players with even bigger leaks. You get the 70/6 stations, the 12/8 uber nits, the 60/45 loose spastics. I don't think you can have the same amount of fun at zoom tables.
Thank you, Eisenkreuz. I'm used to playing zoom tables, but the regular table in your words sounds good. So I tried it today. It feels kind of weird. I will update my experience today. Looking forward to getting more advice.
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04-07-2022 , 06:03 PM
Tried regular tables today. I don't use HUD before as the player pool of nlz2 is too deep to collect enough information. I thought it might work in regular table, so spent some time setting it up. Unfortunately, it turned useless because I don't know how to use it. And I found it so hard to deal with four tables. I can play 4 zoom tables because I just play the cards. But when it came to the regular table, I started to force myself to see what's my opponents doing because that's what people say about how you create advantages. I was like a dork until I gave up watching opponents.

Luckily, the result was fantastic. My opponent just put the stacks in like a maniac. But I just play as usual and wait for their mistake. I didn't make any adjustments which I think is the most important thing. So how can I do that? Any advice?

BR:56.81
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04-07-2022 , 06:05 PM
What do you think of this hand?
PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): 112 BB
CO: 100 BB
BTN: 42 BB
SB: 190.5 BB
BB: 90 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J K

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, CO raises to 7.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 5 BB

Flop: (16.5 BB, 2 players) 8 T 9
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (16.5 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero bets 7 BB, CO calls 7 BB

River: (30.5 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 40 BB, fold

Hero wins 29.5 BB
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04-09-2022 , 01:20 PM
WP!

There is no need to overbet, the standard sizing of 2/3-3/4 on the river will suffice I think.
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04-09-2022 , 06:53 PM
Since didn't play yesterday, I extended my session today. But it's a typical frustrating session for me. Made some failed huge bluffs, got some coolers, then started to make mistakes. Then spent a lot of time waking up from my b-game. The good news is that I got some luck today. Ran 5 BIs above ev. And play both zoom and reg table, tried to understand how to take advantage of opponents' leaks.

BR: 52.64
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04-09-2022 , 07:02 PM
Here are failed bluffs I made today. Did I over bluff?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 58.5 BB
SB: 197.5 BB
BB: 103 BB
UTG: 114.5 BB
Hero (MP): 171 BB
CO: 533.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 T

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6.5 BB

Flop: (18.5 BB, 2 players) Q 8 6
BB bets 13.5 BB, Hero calls 13.5 BB

Turn: (45.5 BB, 2 players) Q
BB checks, Hero bets 20 BB, BB calls 20 BB

River: (85.5 BB, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero bets 82.5 BB, BB calls 60.5 BB and is all-in

Hero shows 9 T (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 22%, Flop 34%, Turn 18%)
BB shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
(Pre 78%, Flop 66%, Turn 82%)
BB wins 199.5 BB


PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100.5 BB
SB: 163 BB
Hero (BB): 213 BB
UTG: 94.5 BB
MP: 131 BB
CO: 184 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 T

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 8 BB, BTN calls 5.5 BB

Flop: (16.5 BB, 2 players) 4 A 8
Hero bets 6 BB, BTN calls 6 BB

Turn: (28.5 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 22 BB, BTN calls 22 BB

River: (72.5 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 70 BB, BTN calls 64.5 BB and is all-in

Hero shows 9 T (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 64%, Flop 24%, Turn 18%)
BTN shows 7 8 (Two Pair, Eights and Sevens)
(Pre 36%, Flop 76%, Turn 82%)
BTN wins 194.5 BB



PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 156.5 BB
UTG: 71 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB
BTN: 528 BB
SB: 104 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q 8

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) J A 7
BB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, BB calls 3 BB

Turn: (11.5 BB, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets 9 BB, BB calls 9 BB

River: (29.5 BB, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets 60 BB, BB calls 60 BB

Hero shows Q 8 (One Pair, Twos)
(Pre 39%, Flop 7%, Turn 18%)
BB shows A T (Two Pair, Aces and Twos)
(Pre 61%, Flop 93%, Turn 82%)
BB wins 144.5 BB



PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 58 BB
SB: 93.5 BB
BB: 65 BB
Hero (UTG): 221 BB
MP: 125.5 BB
CO: 104 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K 9

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.5 BB, SB calls 2 BB, fold

Flop: (8.5 BB, 3 players) 8 Q 2
SB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold

Turn: (14.5 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 10 BB, BTN calls 10 BB

River: (34.5 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 45 BB, BTN calls 42.5 BB and is all-in

Hero shows K 9 (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 47%, Flop 26%, Turn 23%)
BTN shows 8 8 (Three of a Kind, Eights)
(Pre 53%, Flop 74%, Turn 77%)
BTN wins 115.5 BB
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04-09-2022 , 07:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by slyless
WP!

There is no need to overbet, the standard sizing of 2/3-3/4 on the river will suffice I think.
Thanks for the kind advice. I posted it because I thought I might bet too heavy when I review it. Very interested to know what you think of the bluffs I made today. Am I too greedy for advice? XD
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04-10-2022 , 12:58 PM
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PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 58.5 BB
SB: 197.5 BB
BB: 103 BB
UTG: 114.5 BB
Hero (MP): 171 BB
CO: 533.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 T

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6.5 BB

Flop: (18.5 BB, 2 players) Q 8 6
BB bets 13.5 BB, Hero calls 13.5 BB

Turn: (45.5 BB, 2 players) Q
BB checks, Hero bets 20 BB, BB calls 20 BB

River: (85.5 BB, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero bets 82.5 BB, BB calls 60.5 BB and is all-in

Hero shows 9 T (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 22%, Flop 34%, Turn 18%)
BB shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
(Pre 78%, Flop 66%, Turn 82%)
BB wins 199.5 BB


Fold preflop.
Fold flop.

AP, pool has next stats in this line in 3BP oop:
CBet - X/F - 42%,
CBet - X/C - X/F - 48%

So, we can have some auto profit on the river, but I wouldn't do it against any opponent.

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100.5 BB
SB: 163 BB
Hero (BB): 213 BB
UTG: 94.5 BB
MP: 131 BB
CO: 184 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 T

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 8 BB, BTN calls 5.5 BB

Flop: (16.5 BB, 2 players) 4 A 8
Hero bets 6 BB, BTN calls 6 BB

Turn: (28.5 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 22 BB, BTN calls 22 BB

River: (72.5 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 70 BB, BTN calls 64.5 BB and is all-in

Hero shows 9 T (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 64%, Flop 24%, Turn 18%)
BTN shows 7 8 (Two Pair, Eights and Sevens)
(Pre 36%, Flop 76%, Turn 82%)
BTN wins 194.5 BB


Ok

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 156.5 BB
UTG: 71 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB
BTN: 528 BB
SB: 104 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q 8

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) J A 7
BB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, BB calls 3 BB

Turn: (11.5 BB, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets 9 BB, BB calls 9 BB

River: (29.5 BB, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets 60 BB, BB calls 60 BB

Hero shows Q 8 (One Pair, Twos)
(Pre 39%, Flop 7%, Turn 18%)
BB shows A T (Two Pair, Aces and Twos)
(Pre 61%, Flop 93%, Turn 82%)
BB wins 144.5 BB


Looks like he has a note on you
Line ok. Sizing on the river is unjustified imo.

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 58 BB
SB: 93.5 BB
BB: 65 BB
Hero (UTG): 221 BB
MP: 125.5 BB
CO: 104 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K 9

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.5 BB, SB calls 2 BB, fold

Flop: (8.5 BB, 3 players) 8 Q 2
SB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold

Turn: (14.5 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 10 BB, BTN calls 10 BB

River: (34.5 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 45 BB, BTN calls 42.5 BB and is all-in

Hero shows K 9 (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 47%, Flop 26%, Turn 23%)
BTN shows 8 8 (Three of a Kind, Eights)
(Pre 53%, Flop 74%, Turn 77%)
BTN wins 115.5 BB


I think the river bet is not justified against the short stack plus in the MWP.
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04-10-2022 , 01:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperPag
Thanks for the kind advice. I posted it because I thought I might bet too heavy when I review it. Very interested to know what you think of the bluffs I made today. Am I too greedy for advice? XD
You can also post hands in the Online No-Limit Holdem Cash section.
There you can get different points of view on your hands
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04-13-2022 , 06:14 PM
Was trying to get back to break even whole night. It feels like I just can't play seriously for over 200 hands. I think it was a mental issue. I will write a warning note on my monitor next time.
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04-13-2022 , 06:20 PM
Biggest hand today. But thought I was over calling because KK seems the worst hand here to call turn. Maybe next time I should fold river?
PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 48.5 BB
UTG: 238.5 BB
Hero (CO): 130 BB
BTN: 152 BB
SB: 167 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BTN raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 16 BB, BTN calls 11 BB

Flop: (33.5 BB, 2 players) J Q 7
Hero bets 11 BB, BTN calls 11 BB

Turn: (55.5 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BTN bets 26.5 BB, Hero calls 26.5 BB

River: (108.5 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BTN bets 98.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 76.5 BB and is all-in

BTN shows K A (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 34%, Flop 30%, Turn 11%)
Hero shows K K (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 66%, Flop 70%, Turn 89%)
Hero wins 252.5 BB
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04-14-2022 , 11:03 AM
I think a call on the river is ok, but we won't get much from this call.

These are the pots where we have to invest a lot of money with near-zero EV, accelerating variance and exposing ourselves to tilt.

For example, Cbet flop on a BTN vs BB spot.
This action will often have a higher EV with any two cards than calling for stack in the hand above.
This CBet many players miss very often.

As a result we skip +EV actions that cost us 3bb but accept near-zero EV actions that cost 76bb and keep skipping CBets day by day, remembering the hand with KK

So, I would try to avoid such spots on micros whenever possible and focus on simple but more profitable actions.
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04-16-2022 , 05:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by slyless
I think a call on the river is ok, but we won't get much from this call.

These are the pots where we have to invest a lot of money with near-zero EV, accelerating variance and exposing ourselves to tilt.

For example, Cbet flop on a BTN vs BB spot.
This action will often have a higher EV with any two cards than calling for stack in the hand above.
This CBet many players miss very often.

As a result we skip +EV actions that cost us 3bb but accept near-zero EV actions that cost 76bb and keep skipping CBets day by day, remembering the hand with KK

So, I would try to avoid such spots on micros whenever possible and focus on simple but more profitable actions.
Thank you man. I will keep it.
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04-16-2022 , 05:44 PM
Another losing day. Got 39% WWSF. Feels so hard to take any pot.

BR: 51.44
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04-16-2022 , 05:47 PM
Again, the biggest win, but not sure I play it correctly.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 84.5 BB
Hero (BB): 123 BB
UTG: 117.5 BB
CO: 170.5 BB
BTN: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 A

UTG raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) K J Q
Hero checks, UTG bets 6 BB, CO calls 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Turn: (27.5 BB, 3 players) 6
Hero checks, UTG bets 20 BB, fold, Hero raises to 114 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 88.5 BB and is all-in

River: (244.5 BB, 2 players) J

UTG cashed out 175 BB for a fee of 2 BB

Hero shows 3 A (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 60%, Flop 20%, Turn 25%)
UTG shows Q K (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
(Pre 40%, Flop 80%, Turn 75%)
Hero wins 236 BB
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04-23-2022 , 07:16 PM

It sucks. I lost all my confidence in poker. Nothing was under my control tonight. More frustrating, I realised I only played 5 days this month while I planned to play every day. Got so much work to do in real life but can still play if I could better schedule. Will review hands in this month and try to fix some leaks tomorrow. Hope it will bring the confidence back to me.
BR:43.63
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04-23-2022 , 07:20 PM

Fun quiz: guess what did villains hold. I lost 100BB in each hand.
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