Is this serious? Coming from you?
Hahaha

Krab,

Sorry I missed you while I was in LA, your break from the thread kinda coincided with my time out there.
I'll be back out next month, i'll buy you a french dip or something.

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So there has been some argument about what being free truly means, and I want to put in my 2 cents, or 1 bb, however you guys want to put it.


Dude, I agree with you complete. I mean, it's spot on. I've been in that situation where there are a few too many differences, and divergence takes place. I imagine an old couple, possibly in their 50's or so, that used to be all hot and heavy together when they were 17, but now they barely talk to each other because the things that drew them close in the first place like sexual attraction have faded. They just glance at each other in the morning and despise each other. On the other hand...




TLDR, to each his own. There’s no such thing as truly free, accepting that will lead you to a more blissful life. A while back I picked up a homeless hitchhiker named Will and drove him across 2 states. Youngish, about 30 with long hair but clean shave. He lives under bridges and sh** occasionally, uses an old nokia phone from 2003 with texting capabilities, and actually has a girlfriend, in oregon that he visits once in a while. I’ve met her, she’s kind of pretty believe it or not. Anyways, this just shows you life isn’t always about money, and you can find happiness in other avenues as well.

I also think having a 9 to 5, family and kids can be a wonderful existence as well. If you do it right. Especially with the holidays, I know first hand how depressing and suicidal thought provoking single life is. I can’t imagine being 40 or 45 and not having someone to come home to, let alone a home at all. Yea, having a family you won’t be living an adventurous life for yourself anymore banging young chicks every weekend, but if I’ve taken anything from my studies in economics, life isn’t about win win, it’s about tradeoffs.

By the way RiverRat, I know a little about personal finance and I know many many people who make 22K-60K and literally have nothing left in their bank accounts at the end of each month because of credit card debt, and living in a luxurious apartment paying 2.8K a month. Then they spend whatever they have left on booze and consumption. So being able to “save” a couple hundred dollars a month? I consider that winning.

It's obviously totally fine to see that life isn't all about money because it really isn't, however if you choose to pursue poker as a profession you should be willing to do what it takes to make it, right now you are just breaking even in what probably are the softest games in the world or close to it and you pretend that you're somehow much better than almost everybody who criticize your play.

Either you get help from training sites or from a coach or you do something else that's going to make you happy, I can't possibly believe than living out of your car and shortstacking live low stakes is making you happy.

KK your way of thinking is just so skewed. You contradict yourself constantly.

But I did lol when you said I'll share my 2cents or 1Bb as we call it.

Lol
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Positive session last night, up $245. Will respond to some comments I missed:

I don’t really see it as contradicting myself. I like to see it as multi-perspective. Whatever side you choose, I’m saying that either can be correct as long as you believe it. like, if you believe building a family is the most important thing to you, then by God, do it. If you think getting your peepee touched by different women everyday is the meaning of life, then by God, try your hardest to get your peepee touched. Just don’t start a family if you think money is most important above all.


I’ve seen some training sites, I used to be quite a galfond fanboy. They usually just give you access to some player video. I don’t think that kind of paid virtual instruction works for me, as it doesn’t directly translate over to live. A big part of live is taking into consideration the rake, as it kills many would be winners at the game. It’s nice to meet up with some friends and talk general theory, I get a lot of utility out of that and also feedback from discussing hands on here. However, if anyone wants to share their login and password with me, I’d “train” once in a while, and I’d appreciate it a bunch.

I’m not saying living below the poverty line is making me happy dude. I’m working my way towards overall life improvement. Finding a bit of zen within and being able to accept some unchangeable things that made me unhappy before is helping me along that journey.



Thanks guys, I’mma keep you to it!

Last night, not too many interesting hands per se, but here's one that befuddled me a little: Villain is in the Big blind, a vietnamese asian guy with a bowl cut hair, mid 40's. From all I can tell, he's not mega spewy, and his way older grandpa friend in the SB is a super solid/good TAG player. They been chatting all night. I’m in MP with pocket eights. 9 handed game.

Hero ($180): MP with pocket eights, limp for $5.
Guy Behind ($250): Limps as well
SB folds
Villain BB ($130): Checks.
Pot is $15

Flop comes 7 4 3
Checks to Hero, I bet $8.
Guy Behind: Folds
Villain BB: ($125): Calls $8

Turn is another 3.
I bet $15
Villain calls $15.
Pot is $45.

River is another 3. Board is 7 4 3 3 3.
Vietnamese guy ($110) first to act, quickly bets out $80 into a pot of $45.

This guy is over-betting the pot, but I do have an overpair full house, threes full of eights which beat any single pair on the board. I’m still scared of a possible 3 for quads. Is this justified?

I tried to inch some more information out of him, but it made my decision no easier. I told him, “I can beat the board.” and he, solemn faced, responds with, “No… I don’t believe you.”

Hero??

If he has you beat it's much more likely it's slow played 77 or 44, not 3x. Was there a flush draw on the flop that missed? He could be going nuts with a missed flush draw possibly.

If he were betting pot instead of 2x pot I'd almost definitely fold, 2x pot almost makes me more inclined to call because it's so non - standard. That being said, I expect fold is probably correct here. He's going to have 77 and 44 often here I think.

He doesn't believe you can beat the board? I guess he puts you on 62.

Anyway, seems like a fairly trivial fold. Good solid tag checking the big blind, so can have ATC, x/calls twice then donk over bets pot on river. You really think he's bluffing trying to rep quads to take down a baby pot? You really think he's going to be value betting 7x because he thinks you call with what?

Either your read that he's a decent player is way off or your 88 is probably beat.

Yeah, I don't think he ever has 7x here. If he's value betting it's a better boat or quads. There is a chance he is doing this with a missed flop flush draw, as well as small chance he is doing this with the flopped nuts, that is tilted all the 3's rolled off and feels entitled to win the pot after flopping the nuts. Probably he isn't doing it with either of those often enough to call here though, since it's a 2x pot bet make that no way he is doing it with those often enough.

So yeah, should be pretty easy fold.

KK,

Do you have insurance on you vehicle? If so who pays for it?

I would call lol, he's prob clicking buttons, could have quads occasionally but whatever

btw, 17 + 16 + 30 and then you say pot is 45? they rake more than 30%??

It's pretty high, but numbers are slightly off. Pot was about $53ish on the river. River bet is $80.

Do you even need to ask?

lol i feel like this is an antagonistic question meant to be used against kk if he answers it "wrong". most insurance is a scam anyways IMO.

If you look at the questions I've asked in the past they are all questions about his life/living situation. I couldn't care less about him sucking at poker and him being a poor. That doesn't really interest me, and I don't think I've yet to use anything he's answered against him or even attack him in any way.

Fold the 88, he's not expecting you to.

I'm no marriage expert but I'm pretty sure super long term relationships like marriage aren't all about looks. You really think people who get married at 25 aren't aware that they're going to age and gradually become less sexy with each passing year? I think by the time they're in their 50s and have been together for an entire generation there's way more to their relationship holding them together than looks and sex. It's a little unfair to assume every old couple feels the way you put it in the bolded part.

I'm not saying I disagree with you at all about your opinion of marriage/having kids. If someone does it because they think it's "standard" instead of actually wanting to start a family then that's just as dumb as someone working a 9-5 they hate instead of looking for other options just cause it's "standard". If you're 50 and want to keep banging 19 year olds, a little weird but definitely not as creepy as most people will label it. I mean shieeet look at this...



Half the people calling it creepy would definitely do it themselves if no one found out. But once you're 50 good luck relying on looks to attract 19 year olds. Good luck even relying on personality or "game". Guess what's left?

Well that would be their first problem, especially when that salary range you quoted is not even close to impressive. If they lived more modestly they would be able to save a lot and eventually be able to get a mortgage instead of dumping money to a landlord every month.

KK you remind me of this guy at my local 1/2 game. He straight up says he plays poker "for money, not for fun" even in front of fish (lol wtf). He refuses to play against regs because "it's -EV". But what's his game plan? He buys in for $50, plays super weak tight and after x amount of reloads runs it up to a few hundo. One time even $600 which is pretty good considering he buys in for lol $50. Then he becomes super scared money yet somehow tilts it all off by making RIDICULOUS calls and leaves pissed off like he deserves to win. And it happens probably 80% of the time. Nice guy, but holy **** just delusional as ****.

You're definitely smarter than that. A little delusional? Right now yeah. But definitely smarter than that. Whether you wanna continue being like him this time next year is entirely up to you.

I guess we r online tards indeed since we r only people that would call.

P sure this hand goes back to a long time ago, you posted a trivial spot like this. I'm fairly certain most people with good sample sizes of playing "lol call" this spot. Because p sure folding is really exploitable.
I really can't see any of you saying to fold 99 or tt in this spot. Or do we only call with Qq+? Lol, again call and just don't be results orietened in this spot but learn about that player and crush him in future hands.

I mean 43, and 74 kind of makes sense, and so does 44 and 77, but playing them this way would b a little out there.

We probably never have 99+ in the spot cause we limp, I just think he expects us to call always here & that's why he's made it so big, people don't fold FHs. He also gave the little speech on the end which is usually strength.

so we never have 99+... we are calling 77 and 44 only?

I can tell you don't play live much because you think it is unusual for v's to play 44 this way live players always slow play their monsters until the river.

No, I'd never have 99+ because I'd have raised pre.
Confused what you mean by the 77 44 bit..can you explain?