Raise pre, if the table has been raisey preflop, it's more likely you will get 3bet. As played, you absolutely have to get this in, you've commited 35% of your stack and it is still possible your opponent has JJ/QQ or even AK thinking you would not make this move with pocket kings. If he has AA, it happens, you still have 20% equity.

Hero insta calls and never again does limping with KK.

Loving this thread. Reading from beginning until post # 292.

Your reference to a Chinese person as "Chinaman" is derogatory.

http://http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinaman_(term)

Lol, what a huge level this thread is (just got to this point, going to continue reading and see how many other chumps are falling for your routine)

Personally, this feels like AA like you wouldn't believe. If he only ever shows up with AA or the other two KK we could fold - actually even if he does this with AKs, AA, and KK we can still fold. If he does this with AKo in addition to AKs then we can call on direct odds. If he can do this with AA KK and QQ in addition to AKs we are ahead (pretty far ahead if he includes AKo). Small stakes live is weird, I'm not advocating a fold, even though this looks super strong from villain - think about how strong we look, limp raise is literally AA or KK every time unless we have history saying otherwise. This is either a puke fold or a puke call. I just want to point out how sure we have to be that he only ever shows up with AA.

This call or fold is player dependent to me, I'm going to think about every single peice of history I have with V1 and decide if he can do this with less than AA - how does he see me right now, do I seem loose enough to limp raise "light" leading him to shove over with AK or some pocket pair? Is he loose enough to do this and just gamble with some A (thinking he is blocking AA) or small pocket pair (I doubt this, you would have said he is crazy loose gambler if so), how aggressive has he been? How much has he raised preflop? He has to know we will have a hard time folding, we just put in 1/3 of our stack, so that makes me sure he wants a call, and we look stupid strong... What else does he have?

If you can't remember him ever getting out of line - - if he has been a mouse and only raised the nuts or near nuts, then I'm going to puke and fold and go home down $175, instead of down $500. Otherwise, I'm going to take a breath, call, get shown AA, and cross my fingers for a K on the river (because if I'm still looking for it by the river he hasn't caught an A yet and after the river he cant).

Are you playing blindfolded? Why do you not have any reads on villain?

[x] OP confirmed hit & run artist

[x] OP confirmed doing what he needs to do to survive.

make up fake stories on the interwebs that a buncha 2+2'ers can't see is an obvious level?

Seems like real life to me.

You must be wearing a Real World vs. Road Rules Challenge 2 T-Shirt

Did I also forget to mention that this was 6 years ago? As for quitting cigarettes I used to smoke a pack a day for 7 years. This was also during my H.S. years. Now as for my grammar, my grammar is quite well. I am from Maine and kind of a redneck, but i know proper punctuation, grammar, spelling, and English. As for my choices as a kid, well those could have been a little better. But overall I have become an excellent father of 2 children, 2 step children, and a pretty decent human being overall.

now as for douche bags like you from that post alone I think you dont have anything better to do besides to hop onto a poker forum and pick on people about their grammar and their flaws to make yourself feel like you cock is a little bigger. this site is actually starting to suck because of people like you. i still hop on here to read up on some strategy and to read some of the peoples stories because i enjoy it. i tend to ignore that **** holes like you that enjoy ****ting on other peoples posts.

as for the last paragraph i decided to completely ignore the shift button apostrophes and commas just to make it harder for you to read. if the point doesnt get crossed to you then i would come to the conclusion that youre the one suffering from something.

Read on Villain: seemed slightly spewy when I first sat down, made some seemingly bad plays while nursing a short stack. Obviously was down for the day. After he built up a stack, he seemed to be a bit more solid.

The only problem is, I honestly never put AK in his 4bet range here. Neither Queens, and neither Kings. I put him on AA. I just couldn’t find the fold button with my pocket Kings. I had Kings. And what if by chance my super specific range analysis was wrong? I got it the Fuxk in.

Flop comes Q 9 7

I ask villain if he has pocket aces, he says nothing. Turn is a 4.

River 6.

Villain turns over Aces and scoops pot. I leave, immediately thinking that this was a set up hand, I should have left 2 hands ago, or an orbit ago. Down 500 for the day.

This was one of those, should I go with my gut??? moments. As LmBeach put it, “This is either a puke fold or a puke call.” My gut was to puke fold, yet I called. whyTF did I call.

Total roll is approx. at 13,350 atm



P.S. Appreciate the back up.

had to happen sooner or later man. at least you know for later. GL I'm rooting for you.

KK that was one of those sick places where you could fold the Kings, it happens. Only at live low stakes would I even consider folding KK pre to a ship - I've done it a few times and to my knowledge I was right each time. In this instance even you, in the moment, put him on AA explicitly. Honestly that's all he could have in this dynamic, unless he has exactly the other two Ks. If he could have something else I feel like you would know it and would have said so, but I didn't want to take a firm stance on the hand. I expected either AA or some weird garbage and this be one of those 1/1000 hands that keeps the majority thinking they have to call pre because 'omg we have KK we can't fold, ever, what if this that or the other.'

A more interesting question is what do we do if we switch places with V1 and give the table the same action? In this case V1 would have limp/raised pre right in front of us while we were planning the same thing with KK... What if we had QQ or AKs? I think if you put some thought into this from that perspective you'll find that fold you needed. IMHO in V1s shoes I would have flatted there and given the other two/three the chance to get into it, then shoved literally any flop - and not sweat the times I let someone catch up on me. Doing it this way would allow a flop call from AQ / KK / KQ that we beat and didn't fold pre, in addition to QQ that out flopped us and would have almost certainly folded to the limp / cold 4 bet. It's not really profitable for the others to set mine us as we aren't very deep after that 3bet, so just make a note of it if they do. Also I just want to spell out how you almost folded KK pre there but would have been happy to stack off on the Q high board.

Sorry for the long posts.

When you l/rr massive from UTG with KK and he 4bets you then yeah he has AA. Your horrific play actually gave you an opportunity to fold pre but you still made the call.

How can you still limp KK UTG after being told countless times to stop doing it? Do you read any of the advice given to you in this thread?

I didn't even know it was sick.

Thanks for the love Nowitsover

I try to be as descriptive as possible, as live stereotypes are a large chunk of my reads. I won't use that anymore tho.

jw, but If I was black, I'm allowed to use the N word right?

douche bag confirmed.

Rooting for you KK.

Hope you crush poker and enjoy life. Stop using drugs. It will ultimately lead you down a never ending spiral. You will lose it all if you don't change your drug habit.

Gonna try to do a 12 hour marathon session from noon to 1 am, with 2 - thirty minute food breaks. Taking a few apples and oranges with me for energy. Been having some red bull and coffee for alertness, gonna try and sub fruit for it.

Gogogogogooooo run goooooood!


Man it sounds like such few hands when I spell it out tho,

12 hrs x 25 hands = 300 total hands

Don't think you can really sub red bull and coffee with fruit. And why would you? Just don't overdo it and make sure to stay hydrated.

Well I read online that an apple has the same effect as coffee or better in the morning.

1/3rd day report, no super remarkable hands, few tables to choose from as it is a Tuesday, I just stayed at the table I was originally assigned as the 5 tables or so seemed about the same. Got dealt pocket 66 twice (limp folded both times) pocket 88 once (raised pre, c bet flop to take down), AdTd LP took down blinds. No super premes yet, but here's to hoping for 3 pocket aces today. Sorry for the boring update,

Original buy +$57, have not tipped a single dollar yet

Be sure to dine n' dash when you eat at a restaurant too, you'll save a ton dood