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11-26-2019 , 03:49 AM
Myth-busting naysayers: $5k to $30k in 30 game days, 4000 tournaments

Hi, I wanted to make a new challenge to bring back hope in poker. The games are not dead, because an ordinary guy like me can do very well in it as long as you work hard. Poker is getting a bad rap for being tough and impossible to beat these days, but I want to break this myth. There is plenty of money in it, and the dream of being a professional poker player is far from gone!

Myth-busting naysayers:

• There’s no money in poker
• Bots are killing the games
• You can’t make a good income from poker
• Games are too saturated
• Staking houses ruined the games
• The only way to raise stakes is to win BIG and pray for a huge win
• Poker is too hard nowadays
• WizKids will steal your lunch money, and you have no chance
• You have no chance against WizKids who are studying with PioSOLVER or GTO+
• Opponents are too good
• There’s no fish
• Poker is dead!
• Sharing hand histories ruined poker
• Coaching killed the game
• Training sites are poison
• Only superusers win
• Only genius can make a profit from online poker in 2020

MY CHALLENGE:
• Play over 4000 tournaments in 30 game days.
Profit of over $25k. (Usually, I wouldn’t put money goal, but I feel without it, it would be annoying to rail or follow). I don’t believe in money goals, because too much is left for a variance to decide how your challenge went, but let’s put this here for fun. 😉
Five game days in a week, around 13-14h per day.
• At first average stake ($10-15), later on, $15-25. I want to keep it reasonably low for the challenge, so as many people as possible can replicate it If they decide to. My strategies shouldn’t need a massive bankroll by any means.
Starting bankroll for the challenge: $5000
The challenge starts: 29.11.2019, Ends around: 10.1.2020
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11-26-2019 , 04:13 AM
In! GL!
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11-26-2019 , 04:56 AM
Sounds good
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11-26-2019 , 04:43 PM
Subbed GL
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11-26-2019 , 05:28 PM
ordinary guy has $800k+ net profit tho lol
glgl
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11-27-2019 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by GudGambol
ordinary guy has $800k+ net profit tho lol
glgl
Mostly because my background(Although I am extremely privileged to be Finnish). I wasn't good in school, I worked some low level jobs etc. I made it to some level on poker, but I was never the best poker player, but with some dedication and good amount of work you can make it this far.

Today I am less of a believer what people's limits are, though. It's mostly how much you want certain thing and how much you put your heart into it. Limiting beliefs will kill your progress.
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11-28-2019 , 07:11 AM
The challenge stars tomorrow. It should be very fun and tough, but I hope I can deliver. Let's do it!
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11-28-2019 , 07:47 AM
GL for your challenge.
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11-28-2019 , 07:52 AM
Gl! Will follow
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11-28-2019 , 08:26 AM
Do you think this goal is obtainable for a US player on ACR?
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11-28-2019 , 04:00 PM
Following. Good luck!
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11-28-2019 , 10:37 PM
After running the numbers on your challenge, if you were playing 14 sessions, 5 days per week, you’d have to register around 10 mtts, per hour, every hour, in order to reach 4k games. Is that realistic?
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11-29-2019 , 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by joesolo561
After running the numbers on your challenge, if you were playing 14 sessions, 5 days per week, you’d have to register around 10 mtts, per hour, every hour, in order to reach 4k games. Is that realistic?
It won't be easy, but I have to play a bit more turbos than normally. I think If I play 13-14 hours I would normally get around 100 tournaments. I wouldn't play so many Turbos at the end of the session, so I think I can squeeze extra 30 tournaments per day, If I want.

In the end, 4000 tournaments, 30 game days, so 133,33 tournaments per day. It's tough, but I do have a long playing hours, which helps.

I will be playing 15 tables, so I think it's achievable, but it's going to take the 13-14 hours of playing every single day.
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11-29-2019 , 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by joesolo561
Do you think this goal is obtainable for a US player on ACR?
I have no idea of the win rates of ACR. I only have my own database to base this on, but I assume the games are quite good in US sites, because the game didn't advance same speed as in Europe. (You couldn't play online, where the game evolves the fastest)

As long as you can put the volume in, why not? I don't see a problem.

TIP:

If the site is tracked by sharkscope, create a player group with the top regulars and see how their results look from certain stake. It's pretty good way to see how much you can actually win from the site with good sample.
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11-29-2019 , 05:14 AM
GL sir!
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11-29-2019 , 05:15 AM
What sites will you be playing on? If you don't mind, please share with us how many games you get in on your first day of play. Very curious.
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11-29-2019 , 05:35 AM
I will only use sites, which are tracked. (I think it's more funny to follow from Sharkscope)

Here are the sites and aliases:

Pokerstars.EU - STEROIDhulk
Pokerstars.ES - OLAOLAAMIGO
Winamax.FR - fandevin
888 poker - lovelydonk
Microgaming(MPN)- EliteRounders
Ipoker - Umtiti23
Bwin - EliteRounder

Sharkscope player group:

30kchallenge

I will add EliteRounders later to my player group on sharkscope, because I haven't played any games yet on them.

Last edited by Elite Rounder; 11-29-2019 at 05:40 AM.
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11-29-2019 , 05:59 AM
Subbed! Glgl.
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11-29-2019 , 07:08 AM
Subbed! I absolutely believe this is do-able
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11-30-2019 , 04:49 AM
DAY 1:



Post more later.

Good 15 hour session.
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11-30-2019 , 07:00 AM
VLOG DAY 1:

Key things:

Preparation
Stimulants

https://youtu.be/wWuGl4O2yho
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11-30-2019 , 01:22 PM
GL. Nice first day.
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11-30-2019 , 09:28 PM
In

I have a question, tho':

How does it even work? The idea of making $25k from these 'baby' buyins? Say, you play an average stake of $22.

Is there this idea that you can have long term 20% ROI or higher? Which is made by, well, first of all early and mid game (makes you advance to mid-late and late game more often) and then having real provable midgame and lategame edge, which, with now more money at stake and every bb being more valuable allows 20% or higher ROI to be possible?

If yes, how many % of all MTT regs have this mythical 20% or higher ROI long term?

If yes does this make MTT the more favorable format to grind because of the highest max ROI achievable long term out of the available poker formats?
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12-01-2019 , 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by EPTchips
In

I have a question, tho':

How does it even work? The idea of making $25k from these 'baby' buyins? Say, you play an average stake of $22.

Is there this idea that you can have long term 20% ROI or higher? Which is made by, well, first of all early and mid game (makes you advance to mid-late and late game more often) and then having real provable midgame and lategame edge, which, with now more money at stake and every bb being more valuable allows 20% or higher ROI to be possible?

If yes, how many % of all MTT regs have this mythical 20% or higher ROI long term?

If yes does this make MTT the more favorable format to grind because of the highest max ROI achievable long term out of the available poker formats?
I need a higher than 20% ROI from my tournaments, If I play ABI $20, I would need over 31% ROI in 4000 tournaments for $25k profit.

I would say for a tournament player, the most important skill is the end game. End game is where the money is and playing well with a big stack. I think over 66% of my hands are from 0-50bb effec stacksize, so it's very important to have great winrate with smaller stacksize.

I think most of the low stakes regulars make around $0,5-2 per tournament. That's most of the people(regulars). These players probably play their cards and do nothing else or they have some big leaks.
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12-01-2019 , 04:52 AM
DAY 2 VLOG out:

https://youtu.be/t-a_2PxPS6c

DAY 2 results:



Bink bink


Last edited by Elite Rounder; 12-01-2019 at 05:00 AM.
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