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08-03-2024 , 07:14 PM
I fell in love with zoom lol

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08-04-2024 , 01:24 PM
Zoom is my new love, i think i should start transitioning from 9max to zoom if i can beat it volume wise it's twice as better

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08-04-2024 , 01:37 PM
From Patrick Howard (smart guy) https://www.mobiuspoker.com/blog/stop-playing-zoom . Especially true on GG where rake is by far your biggest enemy

Very possible you're better suited to 6max cash than nitring

GL!
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08-04-2024 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TripleBerryJam
From Patrick Howard (smart guy) https://www.mobiuspoker.com/blog/stop-playing-zoom . Especially true on GG where rake is by far your biggest enemy

Very possible you're better suited to 6max cash than nitring

GL!
Thanks for providing the article, i just read it, even tho it's correct anyway i believe that if player is able to crush zoom it's the best format to play but if player is breakeven than he may be better find regular soft tables what do you think?

That might be true that I'm more suited for 6max, it's like gift for me to play flops 1 on 1 and outplay them while i was trying to take down multiway pots in 9max and rarely was 1 on 1

For my playing style players who love to fold are more suitable, i love to take down pots, they love to fold so it's good harmony things get complicated when i play in loose passive tables, for some players it's the opposite
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08-04-2024 , 06:03 PM
NL10 Challenge is officially over with around total 46k hands played 9max + zoom combined

Rake paid 16.91BB per 100 hand (NL10 9max)
Rake paid 7.67BB per 100 hand (NL10 Zoom)





As you know i challenged myself to complete every stake starting from NL2, see spoilers below for NL2, NL5 graphs

NL2

Spoiler:
This graph is after rake paid 17.15BB per 100 hand (NL2 9max)




NL5

Spoiler:
This graph is after rake paid 16.54BB per 100 hand (NL5 9max)




Next mission: NL25 probably zoom yay stay tuned
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08-15-2024 , 08:06 AM
When GG says worst run you really run worst



Than out of tilt you start to pull off some unnecessary bluffs



seems like NL25 challenge will take a while
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09-07-2024 , 08:47 AM
Haven’t played a week or so, resting and preparing for next challenge

I usually do this when i feel something is off with my game, solving a puzzle in my mind and will be back to grinding soon.
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09-20-2024 , 01:06 AM
4 tabling NL25 zoom i get like 5.5$ per hour only from pure rakeback without BBJ and leaderboard bonuses, it seems not bad

Considering GG has high rake, what winrate should i aim for? 5bb is realistic? will see if i show positive winrate on a decent sample and get in leaderboards + get GGcare tourney prizes + BBJ once in a black moon, all that can add up a lot

Now if i could describe how i feel playing NL25 zoom is like imagine fighting a person, you hitting him constantly and he's not hitting back, he's not defending lol easy for now



Short session, little swingy redline but overall my game strategy seems smooth, improved a bit, added some flop overbets in my arsenal, more tricky tricky plays etc etc




Last edited by blazar; 09-20-2024 at 01:17 AM.
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09-21-2024 , 09:26 AM
Very strange thing happens, i don’t know what to blame, one day my strategy works great, redline slightly above breakeven etc and next day my redline starts to drastically go down

I could blame it’s just coincidence but same exact thing happened last time in zoom 25 when i implemented different strategy, one day it was working great redline was skyrocketing and another day it started to go down drastically

I know my strategy both times wasn’t balanced and it could be exploited, i was aiming to exploit pool but the thing is 1 or 2 player can’t damage my redline that much if they adjust to my strategy, i have feeling that 1. pool has large amount of players who are sharing and making notes to players to apply same strategy 2. Maybe there are many bots and owner sets up them next day differently to not get exploited by certain players

I need to think, again i have to make adjustments to my strategy but really im confused right now
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09-21-2024 , 11:05 AM
Redline has variance, just like winrate
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09-21-2024 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TripleBerryJam
Redline has variance, just like winrate
Yes but with zoom volume it feels more like they adjusting and every time i adjust they readjust, probably i should aim for more balanced strategy
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09-22-2024 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by blazar
Yes but with zoom volume it feels more like they adjusting and every time i adjust they readjust, probably i should aim for more balanced strategy
No one is adjusting in the 25NL zoom pool - everyone is a spanner.

Just aim to play well and expect variance
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09-22-2024 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by norwich
No one is adjusting in the 25NL zoom pool - everyone is a spanner.

Just aim to play well and expect variance
Yes might be, will see but imo zoom starting from NL25 shouldn’t be taken lightly

Regs playing it actually making living like 2k$+ a month or even more if their winrate is positive, as i said only pure rakeback gives 5.5$ per hour without other bonuses

Leaderboard grinders can get up to 300$ on 1st place daily, even if i score in top 30 i can get like 30$+- daily, BBJ happens more often in zoom format, i got BBJ small share few times that i haven’t even noticed and small share is like 115$ on NL25

So these people have something to lose so that wouldn’t surprise me if they actually adjusting
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09-23-2024 , 05:09 PM
Todays session, when player pool shrinks from 700 players to 300 late at night my redline starts to go down, im still thinking what to blame



Most tilting hand of the day, idk why i overbet flop maybe because just i was a bit angry i ended up OOP with big SPR and i wasn't able to control the pot so i decided to just fast play, was hoping villain flopped no set but sadly it happened in worse moment

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09-24-2024 , 05:22 AM
Let me show you 2 hands

Villain flat calls 3bet with KK, that play really worked very well for him



Another hand which happened after that hand vs another villain little deeper than 100BB who flat called 3bet with 99, when i faced river shove i was thinking either he has JJ or he flat called with KK/AA (i was still affected with previous hand that i lost vs KK) i couldn't think any other hands, so i folded QQ, villain shows 99 and i feel like i want to break something...



These demons...
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09-25-2024 , 01:27 PM
After these hands monkey tilted a bit, i was even thinking to move down NL10 but than i saw i was only down 3BI so it's ok i guess as long as my game is on point



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09-25-2024 , 01:34 PM
Struggling a bit but will see what future holds as volume grows

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09-25-2024 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by blazar
Struggling a bit but will see what future holds as volume grows

my read is that you’re being under-aggressive in practically every node, and probably overfolding a lot too.

my redline looked like this once and it was because i was checking way too much is basically every part of the game tree.

probably worth looking at check-raising and turn barrelling
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09-26-2024 , 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by norwich
my read is that you’re being under-aggressive in practically every node, and probably overfolding a lot too.

my redline looked like this once and it was because i was checking way too much is basically every part of the game tree.

probably worth looking at check-raising and turn barrelling






This type of hands damage my redline a lot, zoom pool is too nitty, when they go for strong lines they have nutty hands 99% of times but as i'm practically exploiting that my SD line is doing fine

At one point i had 60 WWSF was turn barreling a lot, my redline was above breakeven but reg pool started to exploit that and my redline started to go down, now i balanced my strategy WWSF dropped down to 51 since, SD line went up but redline went down, still winning fairly enough pots postflop i think if i make adjustments and go for more turn barreling, check-rising etc more bluffing it should be vs specific type of players which i need to make notes on or otherwise again i will end up in a situation where pool starts to exploit my plays and i feel like zoom 25 pool is flexible to do that

Before i was applying same strategy to everyone because when 4tabling zoom is hard to make quality plays and there is not much info about other players, also damn GG hud sometimes gives problems like it shows one player has 25% 3bet and 3bets me from BTN i 4bet with TT soon to find out he has KK like hell how so... i cant fully trust GG huds really

But anyway zoom pool is too nitty so often need to make big laydowns which directly hits my redline so im not even sure if i need positive redline in this scenario maybe great SD line is better
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09-26-2024 , 02:07 AM
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This type of hands damage my redline a lot, zoom pool is too nitty, when they go for strong lines they have nutty hands 99% of times but as i'm practically exploiting that my SD line is doing fine

At one point i had 60 WWSF was turn barreling a lot, my redline was above breakeven but reg pool started to exploit that and my redline started to go down, now i balanced my strategy WWSF dropped down to 51 since, SD line went up but redline went down, still winning fairly enough pots postflop i think if i make adjustments and go for more turn barreling, check-rising etc more bluffing it should be vs specific type of players which i need to make notes on or otherwise again i will end up in a situation where pool starts to exploit my plays and i feel like zoom 25 pool is flexible to do that

Before i was applying same strategy to everyone because when 4tabling zoom is hard to make quality plays and there is not much info about other players, also damn GG hud sometimes gives problems like it shows one player has 25% 3bet and 3bets me from BTN i 4bet with TT soon to find out he has KK like hell how so... i cant fully trust GG huds really

But anyway zoom pool is too nitty so often need to make big laydowns which directly hits my redline so im not even sure if i need positive redline in this scenario maybe great SD line is better


You play too scared and nitty, which leads to the fact that your game will suffer a lot from the variance, even if it is slightly winning. Been there and feel u Bro !
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09-26-2024 , 04:10 AM
pool is like that so

got 20$ for 32th place on leaderboard, played close to 6h, not bad
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09-26-2024 , 10:50 AM


Last session i had many hands like this, I'm losing so so much value it's unbelievable, people are so nitty, it's not fun anymore, guy checking back top two pair....

Again i need to make adjustments with my strategy, tricky plays maybe better when i move up higher stakes
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09-26-2024 , 12:02 PM
You should probably use a solver to some degree. Bottom set is almost always a flop XR and on boards like this XC is a huge mistake
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09-26-2024 , 12:23 PM
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You should probably use a solver to some degree. Bottom set is almost always a flop XR and on boards like this XC is a huge mistake
the thing is i never get value when XR, they almost always fold
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09-26-2024 , 12:43 PM
today is so terrible day i can't describe, 2 times me w/ KK/AA vs QQ preflop allin and lost both of them, than on cash drop table someone shoved pre with Q7o and i called with AKs and lost that too, nothing goes in my way
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