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02-07-2025 , 09:03 AM
What hands did you think you were ahead of which were taking that line?
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02-07-2025 , 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Masq
What hands did you think you were ahead of which were taking that line?
I was observing that reg and expected him to do some **** like that, felt like i was ahead of everything except flopped sets or suited high cards that got there but still it's more like intuition thing, i could fold vs that flop raise vs some other nitreg
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02-07-2025 , 09:23 AM
Here is another bluff catch



Running under EV hard, in 1h i go to play live poker, tomorrow will play some more online at day time

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02-07-2025 , 11:45 AM
There is one pit boss aka manager of that poker club i play in, usually they change every day but this one is too nice to me like she remembers which is my favorite seat, even before i get there i make bank transfer and she puts chips on my favorite seat, after i finish playing she tells me to be careful outside its midnight and stuff like that, tbh other pit bosses aren’t like this, idk why shes doing this maybe to get extra tips? Is it appropriate to even tip pit bosses? Usually i tip only dealers
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02-07-2025 , 05:48 PM
-170$ today but had opportunity to win huge pot in PLO (they again played one hand PLO in cycle aka 1 hand PLO after 8 hand of holdem) i got dealt AJJ9 and there were straddles, someone raised 25$, i called, there were 4 more calls, flop came 89J i made top set, short stack goes all in of 100$, one player folds, two player calls and i call too, turn came 3, player #1 goes all in of 325$ and player #2 calls, so that player #2 had behind like 700$ more i was deep too so decided to call in hope if board pairs i win really huge pot but river came blink, two of short stacks had QT nut straight and this deep stack guy not sure we went check check river and he mucked his hand, maybe he had lower set or lower straight but anyway i think it was correct call from me even tho 325$ is big enough bet, i knew they had straight but i could've won huge pot, i lost 450$ in that hand
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02-08-2025 , 03:21 AM
Yesterday after i finished game and stood up, a bad regular approached me, he asked to lend him 200$, i told him "i can't" he said it's only 200$ for 2 days, i said "sorry, i apologize" he said "for what you apologize for!?" (with little unpleasant and aggressive manner) i told him i apologize because i have to say no to you and he said "okay" in a way that he got angry and moved away, after that, pit boss (that girl i wrote above) approached me and told me to don't borrow money to anyone here, they all have loans and i will never get my money back
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02-08-2025 , 06:27 AM
No comment, i wasn't expecting him to call river here



IDK how bad are these players, in what universe they have AJ here

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02-08-2025 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by blazar
No comment, i wasn't expecting him to call river here



IDK how bad are these players, in what universe they have AJ here

yeah sick hands.
1.) IP i would bet at least 2/3 on flop, 2/3 and give up on river or go all in. In these limits people love cold calling 3bets with 99+, QJs+, KTs+, AJs+, JJ and QQ, sometimes with KK or even AA. Also people are cold calling 3bets with T3s so yeah haha especially on nl2, nl5. So the flop is good to bet big because you have A with backdoor flush and two over cards. Turn is brick so bet another 2/3 and op will fold most of his Ax, flush draws(most of the time), smaller pocket pairs etc. The river is more like 50/50. Your A spade is blocking op to have AK spades so on river he doesnt have AKs. So the only option left is TT, JJ, QQ. So the question is if you shove or bet big is op gonna fold the hand on river and that is up to you to decide because most of the time they might call. Also betting so small on river is quite an easy call by op. So if you have decided to bluff then just go big. But yeah river is 50/50 if he calls or fold with big bet, with small bet they will call mostly always.

2.) flop is super crazy for your KK so just bet super big, close to the pot. Turn is close to the pot or overbet even and by river he should have folded but if he is a calling station then yeah river shove and there is nothing much you can do. I had the same betting size as you when i played but after talking with coaches it made sense because you only bet 1/3 or 1/2 if the board is not scary but if the board is scary and there are 18237189274 combos to **** up your KK then you need to bet big and put op into tough position. Also people love calling there with basically any pocket pair, bunch of suited connectors, even T8s, T7s, J9s etc. so AJs is basically nuts for them haha. so yeah dont be scared to bet the **** out of them and next time you will get maximum value from these call stations.

Last edited by FeetEnjoyer; 02-08-2025 at 07:05 AM.
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02-08-2025 , 08:18 AM
Nothing feels better to make a reg call you with AK and he rage quits after

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02-08-2025 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by blazar
No comment, i wasn't expecting him to call river here



IDK how bad are these players, in what universe they have AJ here


Both these hands seem like pretty huge errors that are likely costing you huge.

Hand 1 , what are you representing with that size on the river, you basically force him to call with the type of hands you want him to fold by betting that small, hand seems well played by opponent

Hand 2 , just bet bigger on flop for value, bet turn also no need to slow down
As played river, why suddenly jam 2x pot out of flow, if you check his 2 pair plus and sets are going to bet anyway so you don't gain any value , his Qx won't call this size and his bluffs fold so you just massively cut into your win rate
If you want to play these deep stack games your river decisions will need to be on point as the pot is so big and the rake is so big so you need to really study and nail in river decision making
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02-08-2025 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by herbalerv
Both these hands seem like pretty huge errors that are likely costing you huge.

Hand 1 , what are you representing with that size on the river, you basically force him to call with the type of hands you want him to fold by betting that small, hand seems well played by opponent

Hand 2 , just bet bigger on flop for value, bet turn also no need to slow down
As played river, why suddenly jam 2x pot out of flow, if you check his 2 pair plus and sets are going to bet anyway so you don't gain any value , his Qx won't call this size and his bluffs fold so you just massively cut into your win rate
If you want to play these deep stack games your river decisions will need to be on point as the pot is so big and the rake is so big so you need to really study and nail in river decision making
Hand 1 basically anything that likely didn't beat him on flop now beats him, any K type of hands who checks the turn, now basically everything that bets river for that thin value beats him

Hand 2 i dont want to bet bigger on flop and i dont want to bet on turn, i have my own strategy when playing, especially 200bb deep this might be different then what you guys being coached, i might be wrong but results will show, if results will be bad ill change something
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02-08-2025 , 10:15 AM
Few punts here and there but still we're winning solid EV 22BB/100 after 7k hands



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02-08-2025 , 10:43 AM
When i say punts i mean hands like this, i won money from this fish and gambled back to him some



In the past if i made a punt like this my winrate would be damaged a lot, i always wanted to achieve skill level where i just crush limits so hard that after punting some here and there still i be big winner, i hope i achieved that skill level, i need more volume to be sure
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02-08-2025 , 01:30 PM
Wait....why are you putting in 140bb pre-flop with Q9? Was this all in blind?

Not sure who the fish really was in this hand.
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02-08-2025 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Masq
Wait....why are you putting in 140bb pre-flop with Q9? Was this all in blind?

Not sure who the fish really was in this hand.
No, not blind, i won allin vs that fish and he just went allin from BTN, i called from BB just to gamble
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02-08-2025 , 01:50 PM
Abusing a fish

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02-08-2025 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by blazar
No, not blind, i won allin vs that fish and he just went allin from BTN, i called from BB just to gamble
Why gamble against a fish you have position on? If you consider yourself to have an edge then you wait for a much better spot.

I get it if you're playing with a whale and want to keep them happy at the table (which doesn't really apply in these games). Just seems kind of spewy with a pretty average hand.
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02-08-2025 , 02:10 PM
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Why gamble against a fish you have position on? If you consider yourself to have an edge then you wait for a much better spot.

I get it if you're playing with a whale and want to keep them happy at the table (which doesn't really apply in these games). Just seems kind of spewy with a pretty average hand.
Yeah as i called it a punt, i allowed myself to spew a little because i was winning a lot but i shouldn't do that agree
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02-08-2025 , 03:12 PM
Here is one interesting hand vs a reg, i will explain my thought process:

Considering his huge preflop sizing in my mind his range consist with: AA QQ JJ mostly AQs sometimes and some bluffs, i block KQs, flop came unpleasant, after his small cbet sizing im thinking he got QQ, i excluded AQ because AQ wants to bet bigger here

I didn't like his turn cbet size, more convinced that he is holding QQ or maybe AA, he just wants to jam river and stack me, im thinking to call turn and see what happens, ready to fold river, as river brings another Q, i was thinking its unlikely he made quads so probably he is holding AA or some bluffs maybe, also JJ possibility, so i need to jam this river i make even AA to fold because with what i called his 2 barrel with? he's thinking im holding Q type of hand, so most likely he will fold his AA or maybe JJ can think to hero call, so i just jammed

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02-08-2025 , 05:41 PM
Not sure you get many players folding AA in these games. Based on flop / turn sizing I think it's more likely JJ.

I'd generally be wary about trying to get players to fold AA - even if you think the bluff is really good and convincing.
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Yesterday , 07:31 AM
Villains jam makes no sense here unless he has JT but I'm blocking it... is this a bluff vs bluff? maybe he had something like Ax of spades... sick

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Yesterday , 07:53 AM
I would avoid bluffing(esp with low EQ hands) and bluff-catching in Multiway spots.

You block 4 combos of JT, he still could have 12 combos.
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Yesterday , 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DeeKayBee
I would avoid bluffing(esp with low EQ hands) and bluff-catching in Multiway spots.

You block 4 combos of JT, he still could have 12 combos.
9max ante games are a little different, every hand i have to post 0.5BB ante, that's 4.5BB per 9 hand + 1.5BB (SB,BB) total 6BBish, so it's like 66BB expense per 100hand to compare it to 6max where we post only BB,SB per 6 hand thats 25BB expense per 100hand

Also multiway pots are common at 9max (antes especially) and players tend to play carefully postflop, NL10 players play a lot more carefully postflop than live 1/3 players (to compare) which means our nutty hands get paid less often, so if i don't bluff enough my redline will be moving so rapidly down that blueline won't compensate it no matter what

Considering table dynamics i try to bluff some in multiway pots too, especially in multiway pots players tend to fold more because their thought process is that they're scared even with top pairs because someone might have flopped a set etc so they fold more often

To compare NL10 9max online to live 1/3 will amaze you, live 1/3 has only 15BB expense per 100 hand and players tend to pay you off more often postflop, you basically need to sit and play value hands all day long without even bluffing (but even live i still bluff here and there and show it to make my table image more bluff heavy to get paid even more) but we don't need to bluff at all while playing live 1/3, our redline moves down so slowly it's unbelievable, just play a lot of pots, bet your value hands, print, thats why table dynamics is so crucial, table dynamics, lineups, etc thats why some winning players will have hard time winning even in soft 1/3 games, it's crucial to understand table dynamics

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Yesterday , 08:57 AM
To give you deeper explanation let's take a look at my yesterdays session graph, it's only 1.6k hands



Now lets take a look hands i punted

To jam flop here was totally punt considering 200BB deep, when they raise here they have our one pair type of hands beat most of the time



Same here, flop call to a jam was a punt, i should have folded



Here river is fold too



Jamming JJ pre is a punt too here i believe



Calling vs a reg 3 streets, punt



To take only those hands from that session, all of them were easy fold, imagine if i made those folds, i would be up +70-80$ and this graph would look like totally crushing but still thanks to my redline i ended up session in still good shape even if i punted here and there but if my redline sucked i would get totally crushed
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