I got good value here, my thought process was like:

By double barreling here i want villain to think im on a flush draw, then i overbet the river, now he starts to think maybe im on a busted flush draw, why would Q overbet here? either it's 8 or bluff, he thinks 8 is unlikely to be in my range that often so he decides to call

Here knowing I'm beat still calling the river (stupidity)

I understand this GG pool so well, they always have it when they bet so big on the river but i can't help myself to make disciplined laydowns



It's so easy to crush GG micros if you're capable of folding hands like this all the time, consistently and apply base fundamentals

And time to time game will give you gifts like this, there are always few spewy guys in the pool

I'm pretty sure if you're folding river to a 14bb bet here then it's a massive leak!

We think that way and thats where the key of success hides to understand pool tendencies, they never ever donk that big on the river if they don't have a hand that beats us almost always

It can be huge +EV spot if we fold there every time (again considering the pool)

Bro wtf hes not donking. U xb the turn.

Ur hand is just a snapcall.

And ur assumptions are wrong on how pool plays.

When will you get out of this delusional madness?
If you seriously consider this to be a solid strategy, calling f*ing K6s and ATo OOP vs a 3B even though you are constantly saying the pool is nitty as f*k and you still don’t see the problem then there is something very wrong amigo

Well i successfully bluffcatched several times in this spot but it was minority of times and when i see Chinese/Russian flag on the bettor and low VPIP they never play like that

I didn't look at these charts seriously tbh i rarely call 3bets, i like to 4bet instead but i want to work on 3bet calling ranges with good postflop play, thats why im asking about legitimate charts

^ most important thing

Fold seems super reasonable to me though. BB is a reg and it seems incredibly unlikely they have AT or worse for this size, so you only beat Jx or 6x a lot of which folds flop since they're in the middle multiway

First experience of adding AA in SB vs BB limping range, i could stack off a 11 VPIP nittie lol



I need all the fundamental GTO ranges asap

3b OOP JTs vs 34% VPIP villain, ending up in unpleasant river situation facing a shove, i snap called but damn i hate calling river shoves its always -EV in this pool

troll thread at this point?

why do you think so?

Today I'm not happy with the session, 4k hands played, they stacked me off 5 times, well after 3 stack offs, the last 2 i loosen up a bit

QQ hand was clear fold pre and AJ 4bet was vs that specific villain who had high 3bet% and i was little unlucky there he woke up with AK on BTN but whatever i could play more solid

I'm down 2BI today

Just open gtow and look at the 10nl and 50nl charts???

top two pair vs Russian regs never good 150BB deep

I never used gtow so idk i will try

why do longtime players post this kind of thing? It's kind of bizarre. Folding here would be easily one of the best plays posted in this entire thread, but you choose precisely this hand do chime in and warn against leaking.
If you think folding here is a big leak, you don't have a clue about the metagame (and/or can't hand-read or didn't bother to). And then why do you bother?

I implore you to go and find players who agree that folding to 14bb on the river with this hand in a fairly small pot is the right move to make over the long term.

I have actually commented on a few other hands as well if you bothered to look.

What metagame are you talking about? Blazar plays in the rush & cash pools and has claimed the pool is so big that he doesn't know the players well. If this was a heads up battle over thousands of hands then metagame comes into play. This isn't the case.

There is a potential flush out there and also a straight. It depends what you think a value range consists of. Some players can be very nitty and look to take a straight to showdown and opt to check. If their value bet range only consists of full house combos then the proposition changes.

On the AK trips hand, If BB is a thinking villain and understands the value threshold of our hero when he cbets flop multiway for that sizing, reopening worse trips on the river is atrocious. Expecting him to do that is atrocious.

This is not a GG thing, nor something that came around now because poker is tough. Not folding spots like these is not just a discipline thing, if you know villain is a reg, it's disrespectful, you're implying he can't think logically lol.

Make those folds my friend. GLGL

I like these calling ranges 3-bet pots. Just adjusting versus nits..

Lol..

Its ggpoker, nl10, some random 21vpip guy with a mexico flag. The 21 vpip doesnt mean a whole lot. As u can see in the hand the utg player open limped and has 23 vpip.

Also op used fish iso size. Bb range wider than what normal regs expect it to be.

Dont fold top trips on river here. Non 0% u see a valuecut and non 0% u see a bluff.

Making close river calls/folds vs river probes isnt going to be the deciding factor of whether or not u can crush nl10 like op claims.

Jfc this thread is ******ed.

I read your thread mate, you play higher stakes, you made 4k$ on September, I’m afraid you gonna soon need to pack your retirement bags because poker evolving so fast it gets tougher and tougher but don’t worry ill save you my spot at NL10 when i move up so you can play with all the Mexicans and Russians

No offense, it was just a joke

You interpreted what i claimed to defend your opinion but actually it defends Keruli’s, if zoom pool is so large and majority of players unknown but we know how nitty are all regs, what is logical to fold more often or less often? Logic

When i posted that i played 4k hands actually after that i played 4k more, total 8k hands in one day, from -2BI that i wrote went +4BI, i slept few hours after, just woke up, my sleep schedule little off but i feel like today will be a great day, gonna eat, rest and continue grinding

I can take shots at NL25 now but i won’t do it because i learned my lesson, i need more solid bankroll approach when moving up to withstand variance