its not GG, please if you have time play like 1-2k hands on GG rush micros and tell me your opinion

So many people say dont donk bet

u donk bet

So many say don't do this don't do that u disagree

Its like my boy cat that eats plastic because he loves plastic then he keeps puking whole day and he repeats it every day

You love doing "your own thing" which is ur biggest problem , trust me

I agree donking is flawed but at these limits donking is not what makes my winrate lower, it may hurt my winrate when i move up vs better players but here its totally different things that matter

Lets say last 20 times i got raised on the river and i called how many times my opponent had hand that beats my hand? 19 maybe

Lets say last 20 times i had top pair or overpair and i got raised on turn my opponent had hand that beats my hand? more than 15 maybe

These numbers are so high on value side that i can just print money by folding but the thing is its very hard to fold everytime i have good hand and they go big lines, thats my main problem, not donking or stuff like that, thats minor thing to be fixed right quick

Lets say how often i get value with my value hands? not too often

It's not pokerstars mate where rake helps you and people actually stack off light, here its totally different story on GG rush games

Here i could fold first hand, like when they raise they got it, second hand i have to fold top pair and all the time its so challenging to make such laydowns, sometimes i can sometimes, i can't

Preflop is another thing too when they 5bet shove and i have QQ/AK probably you will just call and i want to see you do that on GG, not pokerstars, how often will you win just curious

Keep in mind you aren't getting enough values and mostly build stack with small pots, taking shots on dead money but those big hands just kills you

oh my god i miss value again, i hesitate to raise flop because im afraid they will fold overpairs considering how nitty they're and expecting them to bet value on the river but they just check back

This is how i stack GG nitties

I'm getting better and better with range interactions, i feel playing 3b and 4b pots much easier then before, sometimes i 4bet weak 3b ranges with hands like even KTs but fold AQo vs strong ranges etc

Squeezing from BB/SB more lighter and more often vs weak ranges and playing postflop easily, rarely stacking off with weak hands etc

Some more hands with value lines, what if i've shoved here?



here i was little greedy shoving 200bb hoping a set will call me or a two pair, should i have bet less? but prolly he was on a busted flush draw anyway

Thanks guys for your guidelines but i couldn't execute the bet-fold line correctly it's not in my nature, thats why i wanted to check turn, this kind of hands really hits my winrate big time, when they raise 99% of cases they have it

I had not a bad day today won x5 BI or something and before i go to sleep i thought to play like 30mins and guess what happened?

Very first hand i just got little careless because opponent had short stack, my bad, i should have played according to my gameplan



Second hand right after, not even 10min passed since i started



After like two hands i got dealt AK and someone 5bet shoves on me, here i think to myself vs that guy i just fold here but since i lost 2 hands i make an exception and lets try our luck, guess what!?

idk about you guys but this is my GG standard my AK vs AA



ok after like 2min i got dealt KK and got into 3b pot saw flop and thought to myself ok i lost so many hands now i make another exception, i dont check turn and go for stack off since flop seems safe and look at this



you dont believe me but all these hands happened during first 15min

for you guys maybe these are setups but considering GG pool for me these are clear blunders

AK call to shove was clear blunder, KJ not checking turn was clear blunder, KK not checking turn was clear blunder, only flush vs flush was a setup

now you see how hard is to play in this pool, i need to play like a robot all the time, control the pot, make very disciplined folds etc, otherwise there is no hope

This thread feels like Rapidesh's thread all over again.

not yet, he gave up his dream, im still here fighting

btw i got into another AA with AK but anyway today im in profit, my game is really smooth just i need to be consistent and disciplined with my gameplan

many here play only regular tables, where the level is much worse. They play them because they can't do zoom games. This is why I wouldn't take advice from these roasters.

I don’t want to be mean or arrogant but i believe any good zoom reg who climbed his way to higher zoom limits can eat regular tables much easier

Thats my end goal to practice and beat zoom and then play higher reg tables with at least 1 fish on it but this kind of tables are always taken in higher limits and have big list of waiting players who use seating scripts maybe that will be a problem

Another day starts, im starting with a blunder, villain had 35% VPIP and hud shows 18% 3bet, so i decided to 4b and stack off with TT, never trust GG hud lol

I need to be more accurate with range interactions especially in 4b pots

You are being way too results oriented. Just because you happened to lose a hand doesn't mean its a blunder. It's totally fine to get stacked by a set occasionally while holding an overpair.

From what I can tell about your posted hands, you play with fear trying to control the pot with your strongest hands which usually results in you winning a small pot the times you have a big hand. Also you are burning money donking on boards where you lack the nut advantage because you are trying to control the size of the pot. Any player with a functioning brain can quickly figure out what you are doing and just raise you out of the pot with bluffs.

It's great that you are highly motivated to succeed in poker, but your approach of obsessing over exploits based on miniscule samples without even knowing the basic theorethical strategy your opponents might be deviating from is costing you time and money.

I recommend you to buy GTOWizard and drill the fundamentals. They also have great free articles that I have learnt a lot from. In my honest opinion just scrap everything you thought you knew about poker so far and focus on building a solid strategy. Beating micros online really isn't rocket science. Just play solid and capitalize on your opponents mistakes.

Just my 2 cents as someone who was playing similar stakes not too long ago.

GL

About that line above i heard many times from few different people, actually practice shows that no its not fine to get stacked like that, again it depends on a player, it's very hard to explain this to you but ill try:

imagine a player who never raises without set or better, every time you run into that guy with two pair you will lose 100% of times, now imagine a guy often raises with top pair and stacks off (good old days) you will win vs him more often with two pair, let me explain further:

if pool consists with small amount of players where you know who is who and what they're doing it makes sense to stack off like that vs right players but zoom micro pool is so big you rarely meet same players in those spots so pool is extremally nitty and to apply what you say is simple not gonna work in practice

if i was playing in higher stakes with narrow player pool i would totally make notes on all players and would stack off more often vs them but here its different story

also my donking is not actual anymore, im not donking often, i took advice and fixing it

I don't read anymore I just write which is why haven't really analyzed your leaks that deeply as khaynay did but he is right 100% .

Another missed value... idk these players make me so angry why they never raise when i have nutty hands



Before you guys give me an advice you should consider what kind of pool im playing in, this changes everything, they dont even value bet their top pairs, they dont want to get stacked

Why can't you make notes now? If someone does something weird / interesting / different at the table, why not make a note of it now?

Poker is a situational game and plays will have to vary based on the other player in the hand. There is rarely a "you should do X and Y 100% of the time in this spot". It does come down to reads and understanding of players at times rather than trying to rely on what GTO bot says is good.

I'm making notes all the time but it's not very effective because player pool is so large i rarely face same players in similar spots

So generally i need to play according with my gameplan, right now im playing for hours and hours and i haven't stacked anyone preflop with AA/KK this is getting ridiculous and not normal

It is also possible that good portion of zoom pool on GG is bot infested maybe

We already know what type of pool ur playing in. We all beat nl10 like 10+ years ago.

U just dont listen and think ur better and smarter than everyone. I hope u go busto.

Every year pool gets stronger and stronger this is a fact, 10 years ago it was heaven for grinders now its different reality especially on GG vs those Chinese players etc you're lucky mate haha

If u played nl10 10 years ago u would also get stuck at nl10. Because u have brain worms.

You must see some regs though and get an idea whether they're 3 betting light or have had some encounters with them. Spots are never going to be identical, even against the same player. All you can do is build a profile on how you view your opponent and make a decision based on that.

It's hard to get people to commit 100bb in preflop. What hands are going to do that? AA / KK and then maybe you'll get some to commit with QQ / JJ and AK - other players may not 4bet jam these hands and want to see a flop.

As with most zoom / fast fold pools, I imagine there are a number of bots playing. It doesn't necessarily mean they are good and unbeatable though.