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10-12-2024 , 11:38 PM
this is also like something which needs a significant amount of hands to really be accurate anywhere near

like sometimes have 5k hands on some guy and his 3bet from bb seems to be very high and 3bet from button seems to be quite low and overall 3bet is normal and its just variance

if you have few hundred hands sample or something best indicator is just vpip/pfr to tell how tight someone is

someone to be so loose that kjo becomes a call would mean likely something such as him 3betting hands the kjo just crushes - meaning he 3bets JTo or QJo or QTo and if that would really be the case u could like even 4b that hand but i never encounter this kind of extreme case that i would deviate so much to be really playing Kjo as anything else but fold unless its some extreme whale
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10-12-2024 , 11:53 PM
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this is also like something which needs a significant amount of hands to really be accurate anywhere near

like sometimes have 5k hands on some guy and his 3bet from bb seems to be very high and 3bet from button seems to be quite low and overall 3bet is normal and its just variance

if you have few hundred hands sample or something best indicator is just vpip/pfr to tell how tight someone is

someone to be so loose that kjo becomes a call would mean likely something such as him 3betting hands the kjo just crushes - meaning he 3bets JTo or QJo or QTo and if that would really be the case u could like even 4b that hand but i never encounter this kind of extreme case that i would deviate so much to be really playing Kjo as anything else but fold unless its some extreme whale
Mostly I'm folding KJo and i can't count how many times i folded even AQ vs tight 3bettors, i'm not the guy to ask to fold to 3bets because i have probably one of the highest folds vs 3bets than others but we're playing the player right? in this case villain had 33% VPIP and ridiculously high 3bet%

I know calling is least profitable action in general, even some top players i believe have negative stats as 3bet callers but as long as i added some postflop bluffs to my arsenal, where i can take down the pot even if i don't make the hand, i believe i can show some profit even with calling like this

I can consider playing like 4bet or fold in this case too but when i 4bet well than like almost everytime i'm playing for my whole stack, either i have to barrel 2 streets or villain ends up bluffing the river, well everytime i play big pots with mediocre hands it causes little chaos and variance, not so calm gameplay, the direction i take sometimes i may prefer to call just to keep pots small even tho i know my range is better, this is because to avoid chaos and high variance
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10-13-2024 , 12:17 AM
in sim of gtowiz nl50 rake but 3bets 13% vs co.

when i put nl50 gg rake there appears to be a calling range that comes quite wide. I think the only reason explaining this is GG charges a pre-flop rake, lol. So whenever you 3-bet there someone folds your paying rake!

anyway for some reason you refuse to understand that those postflop plays are massive blunders and you should stop making them.

we can debate for the KJo but its not like by default a good call and if you deviate hugely preflop then we are like in full unknown territory in which it is to us not neccesary to even ever be and most likely which just adds into ur postflop blunders as you mentioned you then want to compensate the KJ by doing some strange bluffs postflop.

U refuse to believe that mechanic ABC approach where u dont try to do anything but play very ABC leads to ultimate best results.

13% 3-bet button vs co is something 90% of players dont have , they have like 9% .

so if someone has way above what it in some sim which suggest u to just fold the KJo then you can get that hand to be basically break-even call or whatever

if someone is then like a total insane whale he will still like deny ur equity no matter what so i still might just fold it to a 3-bet
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10-13-2024 , 09:28 PM


Villain had 2% 3bet, 95% of times i 4bet with QQ here but here honestly i just wanted to fold it pre but with the hope maybe he has AK or i flop a set i cold called his 3bet

Flop he bets big, i'm still hoping he has AK and slows down turn or i may even turn a set but after his turn shove its clear that villain has KK or AA (maybe JJ) so i folded QQ

I think i saved a lot in this hand
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10-13-2024 , 09:48 PM
2% 3bet over what sample?
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10-13-2024 , 09:54 PM
idk what is this nightmare during first 1k hands





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10-13-2024 , 09:55 PM
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2% 3bet over what sample?
GG hud usually shows very small sample but it's enough
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10-14-2024 , 12:20 AM
Everything in gg software is like childrens games bcz its built to attract casino players.

Play 5 hands and lose few pots and it says oh running cold. Oh running hot.

I just had 3 way app game where played 100 hands my 3-bet was 0.

Is that my real 3-bet , probably not.
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10-14-2024 , 12:35 AM
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Everything in gg software is like childrens games bcz its built to attract casino players.

Play 5 hands and lose few pots and it says oh running cold. Oh running hot.

I just had 3 way app game where played 100 hands my 3-bet was 0.

Is that my real 3-bet , probably not.
Yea i don’t like GG hud it’s not very accurate but rush has more sample like 1k+ hands on average since hands played more faster than other formats, there is no other option so i have to make decisions based on that anyway
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10-14-2024 , 06:14 AM
We were talking about GG fishes aren't actually real fishes, here is the example, a fish with extremely high VPIP folds top two pair to river shove

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10-14-2024 , 06:35 AM
Nit-Fish
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10-14-2024 , 06:51 AM
Maybe i should have folded both rivers





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10-14-2024 , 06:51 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if most of GG's players were bots tbh.
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10-14-2024 , 07:08 AM
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We were talking about GG fishes aren't actually real fishes, here is the example, a fish with extremely high VPIP folds top two pair to river shove

Jeez I think that fish is better than me!
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10-14-2024 , 09:58 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if most of GG's players were bots tbh.
I mean if they can run bots at mid stakes why they can't run at micros? it's easier to beat pool compared to mid stakes and less noticeable especially in Rush pools

When i first started NL25 Rush i was double barreling a lot, it was working wonders, pool was folding to double barrels and my redline was moving up nonstop, i was double barreling more and more, i know it wasn't balanced but i thought i could get away with it

Next day suddenly everyone started to call down my two barrels light and my redline started to move down rapidly, first feeling i had was like either majority of pool are bots and owner added my name to the list so bots adapt to my play or either majority pool are players who know each other and they together all made same notes on me

Maybe i played at times where pool was stripped to tough regs, i have doubts till this day, i changed my game strategy many times
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10-14-2024 , 10:42 AM


Today first half was terrible, i made comeback in the end, i think my strategy is ready for NL25 but i need to test it little bit more at NL10
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10-14-2024 , 11:41 AM
OK i played 500 more hand and what I'm going through is just unbelievable









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10-14-2024 , 11:50 AM
idk i don't want this variance at all, it's like im doing my best and something powerful pulling me down without my will, not sure anymore if i should continue playing like this or change something
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10-14-2024 , 12:24 PM
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idk i don't want this variance at all
Embrace the variance, the variance is the only reason games are profitable. Also the bigger your winrate the less variance will affect you, so I suggest switching to a site with reasonable rake/Rakeback.
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10-14-2024 , 12:47 PM
Hi blazar,

we don't know each other so I hope it's not too offensive.

Checking the graph regularly after 2k hands or even 500 hands later I can just imagine how hard it must be for you with the mental aspects of the game. That would be my first mission: to get mental clarity why you are so results orientated (maybe afraid of losing? lack of confidence in your ability as a player? etc) Maybe it would also be helpful to get a mentor/coach who can identify your technical leaks and teach you simple strategies.

Why are you playing Poker and what are your goal(s)?
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10-14-2024 , 01:17 PM
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Hi blazar,

we don't know each other so I hope it's not too offensive.

Checking the graph regularly after 2k hands or even 500 hands later I can just imagine how hard it must be for you with the mental aspects of the game. That would be my first mission: to get mental clarity why you are so results orientated (maybe afraid of losing? lack of confidence in your ability as a player? etc) Maybe it would also be helpful to get a mentor/coach who can identify your technical leaks and teach you simple strategies.

Why are you playing Poker and what are your goal(s)?
I’m results oriented maybe because i just want to move up fast

I’m too confident with my game now and when i see i get big variance hit i feel its unfair, from last 4 hands i should have won at least 1, it’s totally insane i lost all of them

I realize that i have no will to continue playing today because it will take me few more hours to make another comeback, how many comebacks i must make per day, usually i can play 5k+ hand per day easy mode but now i have no will to continue after just 2.5k hands i better go play Hearthstone or something lol

Why am i playing poker and whats my goal? same as everyone: to success and grind to higher stakes, make a living of it and have better quality life
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10-14-2024 , 01:59 PM
Alright, thanks for the explanation. Variance has many faces, maybe you got lucky in terms of card distribution over the last 500 hands like getting dealt many premium hands preflop and lucky that your opponents have had a hand to call with etc. What are saying now? Will you still bitching around if you get dealt AA 3 times in a row? Probably not, you'll sit there smiling and don't even understand you lucky you are.

When I see the 4 hands you posted (without explaining your thoughts/actions) you should def not be too confident with your game. I don't even understand how you can be that confident because 1 year ago when started the thread you posted hands from NL100 and now you playing NL10. If you have cashed out all those winnings than I take my words back and you might be a good player (have not read the thread)

I like your ambitious goals and wish you best of luck reaching them. But I disagree with the "everyone" part of it. Without a doubt there are players that don't play for being succesfull w/e. They play for fun. They deposit $100 like they would do it to play slots and then they sit down at your table knowing deep inside that at the end of the session the money is gone but in between they want to see flops, sweating all-ins and stuff like this.
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10-14-2024 , 02:32 PM
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Alright, thanks for the explanation. Variance has many faces, maybe you got lucky in terms of card distribution over the last 500 hands like getting dealt many premium hands preflop and lucky that your opponents have had a hand to call with etc. What are saying now? Will you still bitching around if you get dealt AA 3 times in a row? Probably not, you'll sit there smiling and don't even understand you lucky you are.

When I see the 4 hands you posted (without explaining your thoughts/actions) you should def not be too confident with your game. I don't even understand how you can be that confident because 1 year ago when started the thread you posted hands from NL100 and now you playing NL10. If you have cashed out all those winnings than I take my words back and you might be a good player (have not read the thread)

I like your ambitious goals and wish you best of luck reaching them. But I disagree with the "everyone" part of it. Without a doubt there are players that don't play for being succesfull w/e. They play for fun. They deposit $100 like they would do it to play slots and then they sit down at your table knowing deep inside that at the end of the session the money is gone but in between they want to see flops, sweating all-ins and stuff like this.
I’m not perfect, sometimes i will be wrong, sometimes i will be right, in this blog there will be ups and downs, failures, emotions, mistakes, struggles but journey continues and hopefully there will be a big success soon
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10-14-2024 , 02:44 PM
NL10 or NL100 is less important atm if i find success with my game strategy i believe moving up will be rapidly fast and hopefully ill bypass even NL100 to close this thread and open new one with the name NL200+ hehe
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10-14-2024 , 04:06 PM
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from last 4 hands i should have won at least 1, it’s totally insane i lost all of them
Lol mate you have no idea what variance really is.
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