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MY PLO Journey from online to LIVE cash or tournaments... then to infinity and beyond.... MY PLO Journey from online to LIVE cash or tournaments... then to infinity and beyond....

09-05-2023 , 10:37 AM
Hi everyone,

A little bit about me:

My beginning

My RUSH grind this year around 900k hands now

Why a new blog? Because I am hopefully moving on from Rush now and will be doing PLO fulltime.

So my rush and NL blog are kinda irrelevant.

My shenanigans throughout the year, have loads of hands but will upload more

Currently I am around 34k hands in my PLO venture... It's a small sample but hopefully I be over 50k by end of this month to have a better idea of my converging win rate.

Currently winning at 9 bb/100

Stakes I currently play:

NL500-NL1K
PLO200/PLO400+

Usually $1k buyin bullets since its the size I think is best to exploit the table. I have better intuition and postflop skills so I want capitalise when we play super deep. If things go well I will dive into live PLO next month and this blog is just a way to keep myself in check. Make sure I am playing well and try achieve some goals.

Goals for September.
$20k-50k profits on tables online (not including rakeback)

If I hit my September goal I will go and play live for 1 week in October also. Similar game format. PLO 1/2 or PLO 2/5
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09-06-2023 , 12:52 PM
With PLO and Poker.

I watched alot of videos, read alot of blogs, did solver work and so on.... I think what was important for me was finding a learning approach which worked and had results for my own personal style.

Right now in PLO

The pool is generally small and there are quite a few good winning players. Everyone has a different style. Some play near GTO, some take lines which are basically similar to GTO and most know where to apply the correct aggression.

So when I dive into this pool my thinking was.

With various types:

Hyper aggressive lags
tight solid aggressive tags
loose aggressive
fish/recreationals

What style for me works for me? What style has the most comfortable ev approach? So I decided to go with what I felt comfortable which is to be solid, apply aggression in spots, and run big bluffs only when the situation and run out can tell a good story.

All in all most probably say I am a nit or I play a tighter range than most. (3betting less than optimal) also stronger ranges in all positions more than normal.

I never felt I gained too much knowledge from using solvers but I do reference the equities, hands and look at the spots later if I was unsure the way I played something.

My journey with PLO is similar to my NL journey... Do a ton of hands.... build my intuition and rely on that at the end of the day to know if I should overcall or overfold in spots.

Reference material:

What separates the good from the great?

For the September month currently:

Hands Profit bb/100
Total 8392 $1,684 10
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09-06-2023 , 01:01 PM


Currently data so far.... still for me a small sample... I prefer to try get 50-100k hands in each format to be comfortable to know if I have an edge or not.

I am currently losing in the mixed games and PLO5 so I dropped them out of my games, no point in playing in games I don't have a good edge.

September I should get in around 30k hands across the formats so will have more data to plug in.
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09-06-2023 , 11:48 PM
07-Sep hands=786 profits = $2,129

ran better today. had some meh spots. Top set versus middle set and big stack versus me had a wrap all in on turn ran it twice for a $1800 pot and split.
Another spot I 4bet Aces to $228 preflop clown calls and hit a gin flop versus me with J876cc something like Jc2c3 ... He ran it once for $1200 and hit a straight on river.

Ended session early wanted to book a decent profit for day since I had a tough day the day before.


Sept so far $1k bullets
Hands Profit
Total 9178 $3,964
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09-08-2023 , 02:53 AM
08-Sep 1367 hands profit $1,747.93

total for month: 10,545 hands profit = $5,712

I ran pretty horrible at 2/4 some of the runs are below:

All in on flop after 4bet for $3.26k (Villian could only split with me, I free rolled him and ahead with a pair of Jacks)

I had = KQsJsTs
Villian = KdQhTh3h

Flop 6d9sJc

turn 3s
river 8d

Bing split pot.


two pair on turn versus aces and nut flush draw. 50% equity 1.7k pot lost both run outs.

AdKc4s4d all in on flop 2s8d5d versus 8s7h5s5h (Missed both run outs and he scooped for 1.1k pot)
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09-12-2023 , 07:22 AM
are there any videos you particularly liked for plo? how you do your solver work?
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09-12-2023 , 10:35 AM
Hey nice thread man. Where abouts are you playing plo ? Seems like you’ve taken to the game pretty well .
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09-12-2023 , 12:56 PM
What site and what are you using for a solver? I am very interested in the solver aspect of PLO.
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11-22-2023 , 09:54 PM
I had a lot of distractions breaking into PLO and I think this led me to un treated waters however back near start of October I could track my hands via Drivehud and this allowed me to do data analysis and also fix some of my leaks.

So far in PLO200/400 These are my results:

Lifetime: (Tracking without driverhud for awhile)



Then when I got driverhud:

E.g. since Sept 1st onwards till now



Graph:



My plan in Jan/Feb is to move to live NL/PLO I also have been playing NL400 with good results 31 BB/100 but not really a significant sample since it was mainly a second priority if I saw fish on table.


Answer to some questions

Quote:
Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr
are there any videos you particularly liked for plo? how you do your solver work?
Mainly I looked at most Phil Galfond videos and some of Jnandez videos for a macro point of view on the game and looked at various PLO tip videos.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marsh345
Hey nice thread man. Where abouts are you playing plo ? Seems like you’ve taken to the game pretty well .
Game selecting heavily. Don't want to out sites I play.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkD
What site and what are you using for a solver? I am very interested in the solver aspect of PLO.
I did search for a solver at one point and PLO Mastermind was one of the better ones on the market. I don't however do too much solver work or let it influence the way I play since having made friends with a few people who play and win, I saw there is various styles and lines you can take and still win in PLO.... There isn't just one proven way.

Solvers are good to know if you don't want to be exploited but probably won't maximize your EV, I usually go max exploitive when I play versus fish since that's the best way to get the highest EV. There are about 3 people I know who play pretty much like GTO bots but they aren't making the highest win rates on the tables.

I am doing with PLO what I did with my NL game which is basically reviewing my overall strategies and then plugging in or fixing the areas where I am leaking. This is most of the off table work I do usually.
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11-22-2023 , 10:00 PM
Where are you playing from (country) and you can track with drivehud now or before it was untracked?
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11-22-2023 , 10:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Everest17
Where are you playing from (country) and you can track with drivehud now or before it was untracked?
Before I didn't track with driver hud then decided to download the software and start tracking. I don't really pay much attention to the hud I just use the software so I can run my own leak analysis on my game and review. I am currently playing from SE Asia.
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12-23-2023 , 10:16 PM
So I basically finished off for 2023. I decided to take rest of year off booking another winning month in December. Most of my time has been looking into where to play LIVE next for 2024. I will be mainly playing NL 1/3,2/5 and maybe 5/10.

Las 3 months:

December: +$6,129
November: +$8,005
October: +$13,659

All time results since I made this blog: PLO 200/400 and NL400, Sorry I don't really update this blog much but I just decided to give a end of year update.



I will probably update a bit more when I start getting into live a bit more. This is really the next frontier for me.
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12-24-2023 , 12:07 AM
Congrats and nice update.

GL in 2024!
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12-24-2023 , 01:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by swerbs22
Congrats and nice update.

GL in 2024!
thankyou and merry xmas and a happy new year to you
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03-09-2024 , 03:36 PM
I don’t play much PLO anymore since poker is a secondary venture.
I’ve moved onto other business but I will come back to PLO in future.
Summary: $60k Won over 30k hands at 92 BB/100

I have hands on driverhud also but I posted them graphs already.
I stopped recording the hand histories since I been travelling and not really on a computer to be able to do so.

My takeaways and lessons learned is:

1. There are many ways to win at poker there is no real right or wrong way sometimes how to play. Many styles can beat PLO and I am sure NL also.
2. Get into a group of people who are crushing or beating the game at the stakes you playing. You will improve so much even if your styles are vastly different.
3. Forget all conventional wisdom. There is too much noise out there... Figure out what works for you and just gradually improve on it and reduce your leaks.

If I come back to poker fulltime again I will continue to update since my goals are to move to LIVE.

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