I don't play these stakes so YMMV.

Hand 1) Raise/fold 600. Curious why you bet so small OTT vs a (presumably) tilty fish.

2) check/pray for a brick to let him spazz river. I mean, what kind of x/r range can he have here that checks a good barreling card like this?

3) assuming the A wasn't a heart. I guess a lot will depend on how thin he value bets. Will he bet small with two pair if the river bricks? I prolly stick it in here vs OMC, he likes his hand and he ain't folding. Set vs set is likely as is also 2p vs our set.

Seems like he should have a lot of 2 pair - probably raise/fold to 450~500.


$400~$450




$1100

No one scurred of an omc raising almost triple of a pot-sized bet from a perceived nit? 😱

Sounds like a verbal tell for AK a lot given the description - and maybe when he said it - if every one folded to him and then he said that could be the AA trapping, but still most likely AK I think.

Definitely raising - clicking it back is ok, maybe shove dpending on stack sizes (they were not specified as I read it).

Eff stacks would help.

Definitely raising hand 1. 550 ish folding to a shove

Hand 2 I check turn and raise him on the river, bet/call if he checks river

Hand 3 yikes. Depends how OMC he is and how wide is range is on the button. Does he call with suited A4 and A5? Does he flat AK pre but then flat flop with overs and raise turn with it? Does he flat AT suited pre? Would he raise the nut flush draw on the flop?

If we fold are we giving him exactly 55 or does he flat 1010 pre as well?

I can't fold sets. Do we get more value out of calling turn and check calling river? Or does he continue with his two pair hands as well as his combo draws if we raise?

Edit, not happy with hand 2. Think we should bet turn

The last time bip! said "check" it was in the middle of the sentence "let me check my stack".

It's ok to lose hands to the top of V's range sometimes. Raising doesn't mean we are ahead 100% of the time.

Consensus of raising is to win 100% of the times to be profitable.

He could be raising you in position because you are a perceived nit and so is he. So he has to have the nut hand at this point?! Reverse reverse reverse. Nits have been known to make plays like this from time to time taking advantage their image. Plus it's going to work if the opponent is folding a large percentage of their range.

He probably flatted you with AQ+ and puts you on a pair above 5s

1) $600 or so, call. Don't think I can fold to a fish who just got stacked and is probably steaming.

2) Probably terrible, but I feel like V folds everything we beat to a turn bet, except J9, which is a very small part of his range. Check back and let him stab at the river.

3) You must know whether AA is in his range... If its not, then just move in. He likely has AhBigh

1) I prefer to call here even though raise/fold is probably more correct

2) Chk back if you think it'll induce river. You would think he would barrel gutters, oesds, and sets so it looks like a give up often. Bet can be okay but it's a bet/fold. I guess with strong read of spaz bet/call is fine too.

3) you'd think omc would raise sets on flop to "charge fd". So I'm inclined to believe turn improved him somehow. If you 3b turn though think you might fold out worse. So I'd just suck it up and call turn to call most rivers depending on sizing. Might be okay to fold some rivers too

Sorry to leave the thread hanging!! I've been stupidly busy recently.

Doing an hours challenge soon to get my hours to look more like someone who's unemployed 🙈

Results

1. He has all the straights, so I thought raising might be too thin. His sizing is strange for a straight, however, as we would expect him to go even just slightly bigger with a hand that beats all over pairs, sets, and two pairs. On the other hand I also thought he would just check call with two pairs because of the flush on board, and that's usually how rec players play two pairs on a scary board. Was pretty confused.

I ended up just calling, he snap mucked so guess he was bluffing. WTH?

2. I think his checkraising range on the flop is draws or 2ps+, plus some air to fold out my ace high or whatever that's beating his air. Once he doesn't continue on the turn, he probably just have draws and air. He's unlikely to bluff air again on the river if I check back here, so he just has draws left. I bet 2/3 pot, he folded pretty quickly.

Not sure if there was any way to squeeze more chips out of him, or he was just firing once and giving up. Could bet really small on the turn, but no matter what the sizing is, betting again after already getting checkraised is going to seem really strong.

3. I ended up just calling. River was an annoying 3o (4 to a straight) that didn't change much, but he checked back with AThh. It makes sense for him to be playing this hand that strongly. I'm not sure what he would've done with ATo, as he's apparently pretty mubsy when the 4 liner river didn't really change much because I just don't have many A2 (if at all), given where I opened preflop and my sizing on the turn. If he stacks off with all combos of AT ott with a reraise, then obv I'm kicking myself for missing a ton of value. There was also a significant chance that he had slow played a set on the flop, or called with 23s pre (not probable, but possible). They might also have AA because there are always people flatting AA pre trying to be sneaky (which might actually not be bad LOL since their 3b range is already unbalanced, so why not take more hands of out it haha)

I think I usually don't get raised by worse than sets when I over pot the turn (because rec players don't really think about how they are blocking sets with their two pairs etc, and that they just generally get scared when the pot/bet gets big), so I flatted trying to keep worse hands in. The fact that I was OOP made playing river pretty ****ty. All in all, I probably should have just gotten it in on the turn, given that there are way more combos of two pairs than sets, and that set combos are further reduced from flop action.

Haha!
True, think the last time I played with bip he was either all-in or all-in..

That's true, but what if there is a better way to play the hand? I mean we gotta know what raising is accomplishing. And are you raise-folding?

I've been doing a small hours challenge to get myself back on track

Two weeks, 80 hours

I will be playing anything from 2/5, 5/T, T/T, and T/25 (whatever's good at the moment) for at least a total of 80 hours in the next two weeks. There's a bunch of tournaments going on in the next two weeks so games should be good and plentiful if you are willing to travel around a bit.

Progress

22.5/80

+5200

^^^ We talking lolloonies or real money?

Very real

6.5 hours

- 270

Happened to hit a lot of hands (3 fhs, 2 sets, 1 trips, 2 flushes, 3 aces, 1 straight), but wasn't enough to offset the two all-in flips that I lost.

Total:

29/80

+4930

back to early morning posting i see.

Hah yeah ive been playing more graveyard games. Good to be refreshed when people are at their worst

Update from the weekend

24 hours (didn't play all that at once, but did put in good hours overall, which I'm happy with)

Bout even, up a negligible amount (hourly evening itself out? )

Was stuck a lot but got out of it, so yay!

Total:

53/80

+5000

Nice work

I find that even when I change my sleep schedule to be up at the graveyard shift I'm sstill not at my best for the first few hours.

Ty

Urgh, completely agree. Have been feeling super out of it whenever i don't sleep/get up within a somewhat reasonable time. I try to limit my caffeine intake because i find that it disrupts my sleep even hours after.

I used to be able to sleep off long sessions and feel wide awake after to do another 12+ hours, must be getting old.

Speaking of which, might have to change the title and take out the "young" part soon