With no history though.

With history how do you ration your betting/checking frequency
Yeah i pegged him as someone who could be bluffing with worse (i didnt know for sure, it was all me stereotyping)

If you cbet everything on this board then i imagine it's kinda exploitable but that depends on what kind of villain. Also why would you cbet qq jj here?

Im basically using my value hands to protect my checking hands, dunno if that's correct.

And lol pls explain what a range of AA+ looks like

AA+ is when you actually have AA, represent AA, and then give the "poker stare".

If 100% cbet is exploitable in this spot, what is the most +ev exploiting move villain should take?

Serious ?

Depends what villain has. I don't worry about exploiting villains though. I just GTO that bitch. You can call me Claudico.

if you are really that curious, you can always input estimated ranges and piosolver the spot

Hey I've been trying to learn GTOrb, and this seems similar. have you compared the two?

Have not just yet. Also I only have the free version of piosolver which only does turns and rivers. It is powerful though, a good teaching tool

Yeah its interesting that gtorb's basic version offers flop but piosolver is the opposite.

Anyways for the rest of the AKo hand:

(flop ($225): KTTr, V checks and I check back with AKo)

Turn: 9, putting a flush draw out there. I have the ace blocker. V bets 115. I think there's no other option but to call given my blocker.

River ($455): T. V bets 225. I think there's no point in raising, and I'm def not folding. Given that V is still betting, I hated the river card.

Result:

are you v-betting the river if he checks?

edit: I would imagine you would in order to get looked up by ace-high.

Yeah def betting river if checked to
He wouldnt have that many ace highs so im just hoping a pair calls

.. oops - thought I was posting in chat - sorry!

(Nice $$ saving on quads hand)

He's definately better off with a big xr o

n the river, agreed there's no point in you raising without a ridiculous dynamic or spewtard image

I think he put me on qq jj and was scared that I might check back with them. This led me to think whether I was being result oriented in thinking that balancing my range on the flop was +ev. OR he might just be bad in thinking that I would call the river without kx +.

Going to be playing a lot just before vegas.. probably not a good idea but I have been traveling so much that I have major volume to make up for the month. I also got sick from a 12 hour session and have been feeling like death, so have been playing more of 2/5.

It's been a whole month since i left my job, and a whole month on the road! I have some reflections on the month to share soon.

It was nice (briefly) meeting you, sabr, et al. at dinner the other night. Already been subbed but will pay closer attention. Looking forward to reading your recent reflections!

Why the small 3! Pre?

You too! I'm sure we will be running into each other again over the summer.

Which hand are you referring to?

There was a really interesting spot that came up this week. I was not involved in the hand but I think I probably dwelled on it longer than any of the players at the table (including the people that were in the hand!) because the winner didn't realize that he made a mistake and just got lucky imo (as most people just move on and don't really think as much about a hand that they won). Anyways this is what happened and I hope you will find it to be as interesting as I do.

The set up: 2/5. Drunk tourist who's been on his last buy in has about $500 left. Two hands ago, he announced that he has to go and he started shoving blind for the next two hands. He got called both hands and won one, and lost one. It's pretty obvious to everyone that he's going to blind shove this hand too.

Drunk Tourist is in the big blind this hand. Player A straddles utg to $10. It was folded to Player B, who limps $10 on the button. Small blind folds, and DT shoves for ~$500 as promised.

Stacks: DT - $500
Player A - 1500, Player B covers.

**What's Player A's calling range here?**
- given that A KNOWS B has a calling hand since it's pretty obvious that B limped on the button with the intention of calling DT's blind shove.
- A doesn't know how strong B is since B is obv limping his ENTIRE calling range
- when should A be SHOVING instead of calling?
- if A calls, then B shoves over, what range should A stack off with?

**What's Player B's calling range here if A calls?**
- obv B can limp here with some weak hands here like Q/K high or low pocket pairs as the lower part of his limping range is still a profitable call against a blind all in, but an obvious fold if A calls
- when should Player B shove over Player A, and when should Player B just call?

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So in the actual hand, A called with K8o and B went like "oh since you called so I'm not calling" folded. A ended up hitting a K against DT's two random low cards, and won the pot.
I think A called SUPER loose knowing B had minimum 50%+ hand. B can def afford to have a wider range than A because he's the last to act. At that point A's concern is not the DT but the fact that B has a disguised hand.

Also, during the hand A gave off some very telling signs that he doesn't have a strong hand as he called. I wonder what can B shove here with (partially bluff, partially for protection) because he has some fold equity and A LOT of dead money in the pot! But at the same time if I had a huge hand in B's spot I might just flat because it's going to be hard for A to get away post flop with such a tiny spr (1k left in a pot of 1.5k) whereas he might have folded to a shove pre! So yeah this may seem like a straight forward spot but I think there's actually a lot of thought process with ranges here - if you are ever that lucky to run into blind allin DTs, that is.

Must be good games to still be up at 6am. Unless body clock is still stuck on EST

I've been playing a semi-graveyard shift

totes interesting spot

That time when I checked 3 times with top boat

Fun hand, think (hope) i made the most here?

Late night 5/T, pretty aggro and pro-y with a lot of light squeezes, barrels and thin value bets.

My image is pretty tight. The spot on the table is a foreign tourist who opens quite a lot and has snap called 3 bets with a lot of garbage.

Same foreign tourist opens to 40 as usual in MP. He had over 3k at once but eventually has whittled his stack down to less than 1k. Folds to a pro/reg who 3 bets to 140 on the button. I have KK in the small blind. I cold-flat here (I'm not sure if cold call or 4 betting here looked stronger) hoping that the tourist will just tilt ship over. Big blind, an aggressive wizard who has been quite POW and stuck quite a bit then also cold calls. The tourist also just flats, so we go to the flop 4 way with me being severely oop. Crap!

Eff stacks: everyone except the tourist has 3k+.

Flop (560): K88r . I check and everyone also checks. No kidding, I flopped *too* well.

Turn: Qo. I check. Then it checks around again!

River: 2o. So I decide to check again. Big blind then reaches for chips and bet 450! It folds around to me and I c/r to 1700, but he folds fairly quickly.

I checked 3 streets because I think I'm already coolering any trips/FHs for stacks and it's just so hard for these wizards to have something good on this board. I also don't have that image where I was capable of big bluffs (like if I thought I could level someone into bluff catching me I would have). Dunno if I lost value for not betting turn (but I can only imagine JT for calling, cant see Qx calling two more streets, and I block all Kx) or if I made max (not to mention someone could hit a smaller FH on later streets).