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Old 11-01-2012, 11:50 PM   #926
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is the guideline for 3 n 4 betting that u 3 bet wide against guys who steal wide n fold to 3 bets n 3bet for value against guys who don't fold to 3bet n flat against guys who 3 bet wide to get them to spew postflop with their weak range. 4 bet guys who fold to 4 bets alot n flat 4 bets against guys who 4 bet alot to get them to spew with their weak range.
You got it. Would make sense to play like that right?
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Old 11-02-2012, 02:02 AM   #927
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    On Game, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

    SB: $156.30 (26.1 bb)
    BB: $302 (50.3 bb)
    UTG: $951 (158.5 bb)
    MP: $711.15 (118.5 bb)
    CO: $673 (112.2 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $591 (98.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 7
    UTG folds, MP raises to $18, CO folds, Hero calls $18, 2 folds

    Flop: ($45) 4 K Q (2 players)
    MP bets $33, Hero calls $33

    Turn: ($111) 7 (2 players)
    MP bets $84, Hero calls $84

    River: ($279) 3 (2 players)
    MP bets $172, Hero raises to $456 and is all-in, MP folds

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    Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.
    If he bet the river like 260 would you still shove ?
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    Old 11-02-2012, 07:10 AM   #928
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    If he bet the river like 260 would you still shove ?
    Pm'd
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    Old 11-02-2012, 09:22 AM   #929
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    How many BIs was that downswing?
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    Old 11-02-2012, 09:35 AM   #930
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    He play's mostly 100nl i think, so about 500bi's??
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    Old 11-02-2012, 09:36 AM   #931
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    How many BIs was that downswing?
    srsly every time one of the more popular hreads here posts a downswing you ask the same question. doesnt that get boring man?
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    Old 11-02-2012, 09:47 AM   #932
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    He play's mostly 100nl i think, so about 500bi's??
    This is a troll...

    Right...

    RIGHT?!
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    Old 11-02-2012, 09:57 AM   #933
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    This is a troll...

    Right...

    RIGHT?!
    probably not, a 500 bi downswing is fairly common
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    Old 11-02-2012, 10:05 AM   #934
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    probably not, a 500 bi downswing is fairly common
    No, not that. I meant the 100nl comment. OP's main stake is not 100nl.

    Also, a 500BI swing in cash isn't common man...
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    Old 11-02-2012, 10:27 AM   #935
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    Yes it is, he just moved up from 50nl
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    Old 11-02-2012, 10:31 AM   #936
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    What? All his HHs are 500nl or higher?
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    Old 11-02-2012, 10:33 AM   #937
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    Lol....

    To answer the original question it was 24 buyins downswing
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    Old 11-02-2012, 10:35 AM   #938
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    Haha that's better.

    I was about to say this can't be legit.

    Well played.
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    Old 11-02-2012, 10:51 AM   #939
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    **** you g4m make him bite
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    Old 11-02-2012, 02:13 PM   #940
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    Goals that i set myself for November:

    1) 90,000 hands on ongame, so 3k / day average
    2) Win $80,000 excl rakeback
    3) 22 runs out of the 30 days
    4) 200 pressups / day
    5) No alcohol until 24th Nov (1 night out this month)
    6) Eat healthy

    Good start to the month:

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    Old 11-02-2012, 02:24 PM   #941
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    lol
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    Old 11-02-2012, 09:41 PM   #942
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    Can't sleep and wanted to read something interesting and came to the right place. I think I know of you from a friend (but I might be confusing you with someone else...?!) and wanted to ask a few, hopefully interesting questions to see your approach on different things:

    How important are HUD stats in your game? Apologies if you said you don't use a HUD or have already answered this or any of these q's in this thread.

    Do you think players ever suffer fancy play syndrome vs you and how does that impact on your game?

    Do you think you lose more than the average reg does when suffering with poor card distribution / unfavourable spots? Is this a necessary sacrifice to win more than the average reg does in favourable situations?

    If the above is true, have you come up with any techniques to minimise losses in sessions with few good spots / situations whilst maintaining an image that gets you paid when you are running well?

    How much money, if any of course, would you estimate you have lost assuming certain regs have deep thought processes but in fact you've given them way too much credit and they were only ever going to play the hand in a standard way?

    How instinctive is your game and do you think you'd find it difficult to coach people?

    Playing so many tables, do you find you lose out on gauging the tempo of the game? If so, how much does this detract from your game?

    Do you put much focus on your own timings and do you ever have to adjust the way you are playing a hand because you're worried a delay makes you less believable for example?

    On a lighter note, what will you do when you reach a million?

    I probably have some more questions too but this is already way too long as it is!
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    Old 11-02-2012, 10:18 PM   #943
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    Can't sleep and wanted to read something interesting and came to the right place. I think I know of you from a friend (but I might be confusing you with someone else...?!) and wanted to ask a few, hopefully interesting questions to see your approach on different things:

    Who is your friend?

    How important are HUD stats in your game? Apologies if you said you don't use a HUD or have already answered this or any of these q's in this thread.

    Never run the HUD, just play through gameflow, dynamics, position really. Kinda know the stats of all the regs I play with so HUD would only make the screen look messy!

    Do you think players ever suffer fancy play syndrome vs you and how does that impact on your game?

    Hmm, i have some pretty hectic dynamics with a few regs preflop, but i wouldn't (from what I know) say people get out of line vs me, i am probably seen as a more curious than the average reg so would call down lighter, which would obv reduce their bluffs.. On the other hand, i say I'm the opposite, and get way too out of line vs some people, they just don't know it!

    Do you think you lose more than the average reg does when suffering with poor card distribution / unfavourable spots? Is this a necessary sacrifice to win more than the average reg does in favourable situations?

    Hmm nah i'd say probably lose less, with an upwards sloping non-showdown line i'd say me bluffing with crap contributes to that, and i think i'm pretty good at playing in position etc which is another way you can pick up more pots than say if you played out of pos more. I think you can win more than an average reg in both unfavourable and favourable spots if you play right.

    If the above is true, have you come up with any techniques to minimise losses in sessions with few good spots / situations whilst maintaining an image that gets you paid when you are running well?

    Regarding minimising losses, for example i have just lost $20k, set that as my limit and didn't want to lose anymore tonight. So I think having a stop-loss will help minimise losses. Regarding playing style and minimizing losses, to play more tighter preflop (or less lag) e.g. just flat a hand like AQ/JJ on the button vs early/cutoff raise (or in the blinds too)... And just play the hand from there in a single raised pot on the flop. What i like to do is overbet bluff quite a bit on the river, and by doing so, when I do get called I can overbet for value vs the reg, so that image gets me paid when running well (but can maximise losses though, just gotta be careful I guess).


    How much money, if any of course, would you estimate you have lost assuming certain regs have deep thought processes but in fact you've given them way too much credit and they were only ever going to play the hand in a standard way?

    This question reminds me of a hand tonight. I called a 3b in dealer position vs SB. Called flop 88T, called turn 7, called shove on the river 9. I dunno how in depth that hand can get really, it's a silly call but i just went with my gut. Throughout the hand my head was saying 'he's bluffing' (although I could have shoved or something I guess to avoid overs getting there, as it's not really a hand to trap with ). I'd have to really go through my DB to answer this I guess, it's a tough question. I think every play at 5/10 is pretty standard, but then thoughts escalate when i play 25/50 as the regs are better. But yeah, i would say i've probably lost more than most because of the way i overthink sometimes or give opponent more credit for his thinking than he is capable of... So i would say i've lost more through calling, but won more through betting/raising/shoving etc

    How instinctive is your game and do you think you'd find it difficult to coach people?

    I'd say it's 98/99% instinct, never really have to think that much anymore. The times I do think are on the river in 200bb+ pots. I coached 3 people briefly at the start of the year, it went well, I was able to communicate my thoughts to them pretty well and they seemed to understand it etc, so no.

    Playing so many tables, do you find you lose out on gauging the tempo of the game? If so, how much does this detract from your game?

    Kinda got used to being able to play 9-12 with no problem. Was 15 tabling earlier tonight and that was kinda hectic so sat out at 3 and it was fine again. If i didn't know the players I play with well, then i'd probably go down to 8 tables.

    Do you put much focus on your own timings and do you ever have to adjust the way you are playing a hand because you're worried a delay makes you less believable for example?

    Yeah i focus on my timings, especially vs some regs (won't go into that more publicly though) and vs the fish/whale I normally timebank then shove/bet the nuts on the river, giving them more time to think "I'm going to call" And yeah, i do sometimes think a delay may think I am less believable, but that's why I sometimes ... You know the rest

    On a lighter note, what will you do when you reach a million?

    Buy a house and then set another goal!

    I probably have some more questions too but this is already way too long as it is!

    Feel free to ask more
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    Old 11-03-2012, 08:35 AM   #944
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    I went to school with Chris H, who if I've got it right he is / was your housemate?

    Whichever way, ty for the responses!

    The reason I asked about coaching is because so many people rely on their HUD's and following strict math and %'s and I wondered how you word your thoughts without that mathematical analysis? I've personally found intuitive coaching difficult since I don't use a HUD either and a lot of my lines are based on dynamics / experience so I struggle to explain things sometimes. It's more like, they don't / do have it here just trust me'. Can you relate to that and how did you combat that?

    Do you think in ranges or more simplistically like 'does he have it, does he not have it, is he somewhere in between'? This is a confusing question to word but I guess I'm wondering how specifically you define your opponents range street by street generally.

    Against active and skilful regs, do you both tend to respect each other and steer clear a little or get involved in a lot of levelling wars?

    How many streets in advance are you thinking at each time?
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    Old 11-03-2012, 11:37 AM   #945
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    I went to school with Chris H, who if I've got it right he is / was your housemate?

    Ah yeah, I should have known you knew him by the location. And yeah he is.

    Whichever way, ty for the responses!

    The reason I asked about coaching is because so many people rely on their HUD's and following strict math and %'s and I wondered how you word your thoughts without that mathematical analysis? I've personally found intuitive coaching difficult since I don't use a HUD either and a lot of my lines are based on dynamics / experience so I struggle to explain things sometimes. It's more like, they don't / do have it here just trust me'. Can you relate to that and how did you combat that?

    I’ve asked 3 players who I consider to be pretty/really good recently, all have said they don’t use a HUD whilst playing and just prefer to go with gameflow etc. I just watched the people I briefly coached for an hour, then wrote down all the things I would have done differently or do instead of what they were not doing. Then I said why, mostly with words but some of which I explained with basic maths, nothing too complex though. That seemed to work fine, I think making it more complex could have had an adverse effect on their game too. I had no prior experience to the coaching I did, hence the reduced rate I offered, so was a trial experience for me to, but I just found at the time that asking myself the question ‘why?’ when doing certain things let me answer them really easily. I think when you’re at a stage where you can say ‘they don’t/do have it here just trust me’ you are pretty experienced and accomplished, so it is second nature for you. It’s probably a good thing to be at that level, and yeah I can relate to that, and imo there is nothing to combat. Going with your gut instead of using data from previous hands is better imo.

    Do you think in ranges or more simplistically like 'does he have it, does he not have it, is he somewhere in between'? This is a confusing question to word but I guess I'm wondering how specifically you define your opponents range street by street generally.

    Both really. Depends on the board, the action, who it is, sometimes there is a case where they rep so little so it’s not really a wide range of hands they could have, but more a case of do they have ‘it’ (the absolute nuts kinda thing). Hard one to answer the second question, I don’t really know tbh. I guess as a hand is played, from preflop vs a LAG player, it can be any two, but if someone 3bets like 2-6% it’s pretty obv they have AK/AQ-TT kinda hand. Then as a hand is played through, with timing tells, bet sizing, various flop/turn/river combinations etc I can work out a more narrow range of the opponent.

    Against active and skilful regs, do you both tend to respect each other and steer clear a little or get involved in a lot of levelling wars?

    I will stay clear of playing sh*t hands out of position vs players I think play well post flop for sure. I have some levelling wars preflop with some good regs, like min click it backs etc but not vs others. Then vs the weaker regs who are passive/give up easy I will change my tactic again accordingly. In the main though, I’ll avoid them, as there is no point increasing the variance of an already stressful job 

    How many streets in advance are you thinking at each time?

    Probably the whole hand in general, at least I know what I’ll do if a board runs out in a particular way vs someone.
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    Old 11-04-2012, 03:05 AM   #946
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    defo alot of this is tldr. come to me and ill teach the wee green floaty mans ****.
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    Old 11-04-2012, 03:05 AM   #947
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    YODAA,, THATS HIS NAME!!
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    Old 11-04-2012, 07:11 AM   #948
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    Going to have a flutter in the double chance Mtt's on stars today........
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    Old 11-04-2012, 12:08 PM   #949
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    Also decided that i'm going to up my goal for this month from $80k to $90k, so that it will be $1/hand.
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    Old 11-04-2012, 12:32 PM   #950
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    you beast
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