why people hate that hooligan guy so much?

25 buyins (5000$) everyone received at 200 NL for just being at the table and shoving ay two cards, which isn't bad bonus, obviously he plays a bit higher but he could fill up 24 tables down to 600 NL.. but yes its possible he makes more at other sites even during promotion, but apparently he had no idea about the milestones, which is strange

Yo Giev Money,

Love your style of aggressive play with a sick redline but I have a couple of questions:

1. What is ur "standard" play? When you have no reads or stats. Might not be that relevant in HSNL but in SSNL you meet a dozen of new "regulars" every single day (at stars at least). And I have no idea whether I should be aggressive or play straight forward?

This is also true vs some random regular maybe with a 100 hands that have standard stats like 20/18/8. Now you know he is a TAG-ish regular, but I could not draw any conclusion about their play from this. Their post flop style and ranges could vary a bunch.

2. Want to pick ur brain about adjusting too. Given the scenario you 3-barrel bluff a board like 8sJd2dKsQh and got called down by AJo. What is going on in ur head right now? Are u thinking of value betting him lighter and stop bluffing? Are you thinking of overshoving rivers next time in the same scenario?

What if he is a regular? or have regular-ish stats? He knows that u know he just hero called you, wldnt he know how to adjust vs ur adjustment?

3. lots of questions..omg..last question I swear (for now :P). As a "standard", i hate using tt word but it does put things in context, what do you think about facing 3-bets OOP. Are you in the school of thought of calling a depolarize and playing OOP or 4-betting light?

4-betting light seem to have been the standard for a long time until the argument that is exactly what the light 3-better wants you to do because he have a polarize range. Easy fold for him facing 4-bet with air and easy shove with his value range.

I like the idea of calling OOP but then I realize it would be so easy for a regular to adjust to that, then u got to readjust and it just becomes a leveling war which no one wins?

My head hurts but I might be over thinking stuff. lol.

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LMFAO

Same regs grinding HSNL every day so it's not that hard to get an overall idea how they play. I do take notes while playing ofc.

A while ago he made several so ******ed posts that mod deleted them for derailing the thread.

I do play at stars. I do know about the milestones. I do not know why I would give a flying ****. It's a lottery.

I'm pretty sure you are over thinking stuff. Anyway I'll try to answer the questions later.

who gives a **** about that its lottery? i wouldnt care if they forced me to watch gay porn as table background as long as it gave me potential +EV money

i have a question about your mindset when starting a day/session:

are you just

a) superchill and think "im gonna fire up 24 tables now".. without any more thought
b) im gona win sooo much money now and try to take down almost all pots im involved in
c) gona play my A game and just do my best game and best EV decisions in all situations
c)

confirmed

more like Hoooligay amirite?

Don't worry about me not knowing what's most +ev for me.

What comes to your question I think it's gotta be either first or second c.

Just remembered that I did buy my brother volvo s60 for christmas present so that gotta count at least somewhat baller (it was used obv but still).

Your past graph has been very inspiring and motivating sir for to start my grind at the tables lol!

1. There is no such thing as "standard play". Everything depends on board texture, stack sizes, our hand, what action there has been etc etc and then you just try to make the best possible play from the information you have (if you have no reads about villain but would guess he is probably a reg then do what works against most regs).

2. Yeah I definitely could overbet/overbet shove the next time and see how he reacts. Once he calls down overbet with the same hand I gotta tone down barreling a bit and valuebet more.

3. This ofc depends how much villain is 3betting. If he 3bets a lot I 4bet light. If he starts 5bet shoving light I just need to 4bet/call wider. What comes to adjusting imo don't EVER assume someone is adjusting against you until he gives you a reason. Most regs do waaaaaaay less adjusting than ppl might think. (Ofc HU is different but in 6max you are just another reg and villain might not even remember what happened last time you guys were playing).

After all this time how do you stop boredom of playing just one game from setting in? Ever feel tempted to just mess around in PLO / mixed games etc. or does winning just never get boring?

What kind of boards are these ? Villain snap calls twice on :

A78 2 Q Shove river ?

KT3 7 6 Shove river ?

QJ7 4 4 Shove river ?

And if the flush hits are you going to rep it ?

Thx for the reply. Appreciate it.

I shld clarify what I mean by "standard play". It is your default action/decision base on board texture, stack size, our hand and previous actions without any information of how villain plays (range or what he does with different parts of his range).

For example, 2-barreling air on 2d2hJsKs might be a "standard play" for you as in you will always barrel vs an unknown player. The point of question 1 was just to gauge how aggressive you are vs unknowns. Like, assuming you always barrel that turn, do you ALWAYS barrel the river regardless what it is vs an unknown (since he seldom have a K).

Where do you draw the line? I guess the best way to ask it is, in a scenario where you have 2-barreled. What will the board look like IP or OOP where you think putting in the 3rd barrel is a coin flip decision vs an unknown? Hope the question make sense..lol..

It doesn't. The money I can make from NL is just sick compared to the 'real world' (as in how long I would need to work at some standard job) so as long as I win it's not going to be boring.

On the otherhand it could (and probably would) be a good thing to learn PLO and I could win even more if I'd become good at it. If NL games get significantly worse I will try to learn PLO that's for sure.

All of those boards sucks at 3barreling if villain likes to call down light because it changes so little from flop to river. TP is still a TP and he's not gonna fold it if he thinks we barrel too much. If flush hits it's a bit better.. Then it makes some difference whether you are IP or OOP. IP you can be pretty sure that a good reg doesn't just check/call FD to the river so he probably doesn't have a flush. But if you are oop you can't be sure. Nevertheless it could be a good spot to bluff.

Depending on our and villains position board like 2D2hJsKs can be pretty auto 3barrel against unknown. Most of the time you should either just give up turn or go all the way. Betting turn and checking river probably is the worst option (if you have zero equity hand).

What comes to the bolded part my head is almost exploding while I try to think any kind of answer. Everything depends on everything so it's almost impossible to start giving boards where you should make the third barrel against unknown.

Great thread,

Stupid question, but would you still poker if you had an obscene amount of money, idk maybe you won 100 million in the euro lottery, if yes what stakes would you play? and how often would you play?

Wow so much trolling happened while i typed this question.

If I'd win 100million I 100% sure wouldn't be grinding like now. I think I would take around 10 million shot to nosebleed HU and I'd try to become the best in the world. If that would fail then I'd just retire and play for fun every now and then.

Good volume + good results today.

nice thread gl


My request :

Nah sorry it's one thing to answer questions ITT but I'm not gonna make any videos.. At least as long as I'm not in any coaching site.

has anyone/how many ppl have tried to scam u? (poker related and non-poker related ppl)

ok cool thought I might as well try. gl

thanks again giev for answering all questions on thread
never seen any1 playing this high and talking to microstakes players, tytyty.
great read,altho im not much of a poster, i check ur threwad like 50times a day