lol was playing some 25NL rush and ran into OP. gave him a shoutout in chat but he abused me, haha. not sure how horribly i misplayed this hand but w/e.



Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

UTG+2: $9.68
MP1: $46.39
MP2: $10.36
Hero (CO): $30.14
BTN: $35.46
SB: $27.05
BB: $32.73
UTG: $14.90
UTG+1: $8.36

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with A K
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, BB raises to $3.35, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.35

Flop: ($7.05) K 3 2 (2 players)
BB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($12.05) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($12.05) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

Didn't verneer do a another bankroll challenge before the previous one? - not sure if it was 6max or FR....

I don't pay attention to chat 99% of the time when I'm 4-tabling - sorry - nothing personal I was also watching TV as well so I had a lot of distractions.

How come so many ppl post their HH in this thread? It's kind of ruining it for the rest of us.

Jan 21st Update:



I've been stuck the last two days and am pretty unhappy about it. I feel like something is definitely off about my game so I'll spend most of tomorrow's time filtering the last two days vs. the 3-4 days before that.

One thing that I've noticed is that I'm not getting enough value from my made hands.

Not moving forward = regression, which is bad.

From post #561 in this thread:

Any chance these 2 things are related?

Verneer, will you be doing your contest tonight still, or no?

Also, what is up for grabs? I thought I read you were going to do a review or something w/ the winner?

I agree w/ losing value on the river. I feel like I do it too often, so to balance that I think when you're 70% sure you have the best hand go for a value bet in position on the river. Villain dependent of course if faced w/ a check raise.

I agree with you mtagliaf, with a set of kings that I hit on the river I definately like my hand and if checked to on the river I would most likely value bet. I'm saying in general, if you are unsure of where your hand is at and you get the opportunity to show down cheaply then by all means show down cheaply.

So when faced with this reraise on the river, you can't just sit and say "Oh I got trip kings this is a call". That would definately be playing one dimensional poker, and again if he did show up with a boat here or the nut flush I suppose you could say that you got coolered, but look at the villians play this entire hand: He raises from early position, bets the flop, bets the turn, and check/raises the river (Which to me signifies some serious value betting here). I guess you have to ask yourself in this situation how often would the villian be bluffing here? If your villian is an unknown and you don't know if he is capable of making that play, can you really afford to assume that he would make that play on the river thinking your trying to bluff him out of his hand?

I guess this is a situation where myself and I think a lot of players lose a lot of money. Do I make the hero call and think he's doing this with a hand I beat and sweep it under the coolered rug? Or do I just say damn that's a strong move on the river, take your losses, give him credit, and fold your trip kings?

I'd probably call lol, but my gut would tell me otherwise i think, I would just say "Hey it's microstakes anyway right? He could be doing this with middle pair!"

He had........

I have not finished the contest, but I'm definitely going to research my options and look to give money to smaller and well vetted groups.

I'll start that whole process in the next month or so.

Actually posted this hand here to know what verneer thinks about it. I really thought it was an interesting hand.

Slow-play more as the PFC and less as the PFR, esp in 3-bet pots.

Interview that I did with PokerNewsDaily.

http://www.pokernewsdaily.com/vernee...terview-17735/

Also, it looks like 28 people applied for the free coaching session I offered on twitter. That will still be open until today in the evening as I'll spend most of the morning/afternoon reviewing stuff instead of playing.

It's a hand where you should have 3-bet preflop, but in general, I think that very, very few hands are interesting. Most of the hands that are interesting are the ones where we know the players and cards involved and can try to figure out why they did what they did. For example - the Durrrr QT vs. Greenstein's AA and Eastgate's 52 hand was very interesting. Some of the hands Isilidur played vs. Ike were interesting.

The general problem with "interesting hands" is that they are super-marginal situations which are best navigated with specific reads. Time spent worried whether we made a thin call or thin fold is a very inefficient use of our time. In this case you didn't have a specific read, so we are left guessing whether:

A) Villain is value betting a worse hand (2p, set, etc)
B) Villain is value betting a flush or AA.

We simply don't know. Also, whether you call or fold here will have very little consequence on whether you will be a long time winner or loser. Thus, when I ask my students to pick hands for discussion, I don't ask for "interesting hands", but to pick a bunch of hands that gave them trouble. I then look for themes within that set of hands and we discuss that.

For example, one of my recent students found himself OOP with draws in a bunch of spots. We discussed conditions for when to c/f, c/r, and c/c our draws. We also discussed preflop play (should we have called/folded,3B). So - none of the hands were particularly interesting, but the set of them was instructive.

He came away with some greater ideas which he can generally apply.

Where do we post the hand for the free coaching? Here or on your twitter?

Tweet it.

I'm kicking off Saturday by watching [Vital]Myth's Check Yourself (Part 1) to compare/contrast how he does HEM reviews to the way that I do. I'll post my overall thoughts on the video when I'm done.

Corwin is very smart and one of the most articulate video makers out there, so I expect this to be a good one.

Watched the first video, looks like the nitty-gritty will be introduced in Part 2. Gonna start on that soon.

Running tons of filters on my own DB as I'm doing this.

I'm following on Twitter. Do we have to actually tweet you to let you know that? Or just wait for you to post the hand?

As for slow-playing more... I have been burned a lot by that, but I decided to try it again this morning since you said it was working well for you. I called a PFR minraise with JTs and the flop was JJx. I was first to act so I decided to try and check/call and see what happened. Villain made PSB on flop, I called. Q came on river which kinda scared me, so I decided to bet first. He re-raised me allin and showed QQ for a Q/J full house

I think I need to pick a better hand to try this with

I downloaded those videos last week, but haven't had time to watch them yet. They looked really good.

I tried going through the "plugging leaks" articles included with HEM (under the help menu) but I'm not getting it yet. I have too many stats that aren't anywhere near the median and I'm not sure where to start to fix things. Need more study...

It's not like he would have folded if you raised the flop anyhow ... I think you are being results-oriented here.

What happened on the turn?? If he bet again, and you flatted. I don't understand leading the river particularly if it scared you (he could have QQ, QJ, if he bets 2 streets big before the river) If he checked behind the turn, then of course you lead the river, but it the pot shouldn't have been big enough for him to re-raise you all in.

Running some filters as I'm breaking down my play using HEM. Here is one in which I have KK:



After 217 hands, I was b/e with KK @ SD. I feel like there is something there but I'm not sure what it is. AI EV is around the same.

Nothing wrong with checking that flop. It's like a value check to open up his range and let him catch up. It's not like they always have QQ+ when they minraise. What happened on the turn, did it check through?

Think about the guys range preflop and then look at what hands of those would call a raise on a JJx board. Not many is my guess. Sure if you know he only raises QQ+ from mp and stacks of with OP, go ahead and raise, but I think it's more EV to check.

Edit: Sorry for hijack Verneer